hardware pet peeve.

[Drinnit]

My main peeve is when people insist they know more than I do. Especially about networking.

I'm a computer tech at my school, and we mostly fix network problems. I'll sometimes stand in back of a teacher, during their own class time, watching them fuck with their own connection, to the point where it's almost beyond repair. Then I kindly ask them to move.

"No," they say, determined to make my trip to their classroom worthless, as they continue to screw with things that have absolutely nothing to do with their connection issues. I've had to re-install printer, video, sound, and even USB drivers simply because people refuse to let an 18 year old fix something that they fucked up.

Hm.

I take back all of that -- my peeve is ignorance.

 

[thebro]

i hate the people that claim there computer is better than mine, even know it is, i still don't like to hear it

p1 100mhz
32megs of simm ram
asus mobo
9800 xt
xp pro



do you guys know why my computer doesn't run ut2k4 well? i mean i have a good video card??????

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by Sacrificial
And it's obvious that all the hating is only thinly-veiled jealousy.

my pet peeve is people who think that all negative emotions are "jealousy"

 

[BatteryAcid]

Originally posted by Sacrificial
I hate:

1. Haters that sneer at "generous-spenders" who buy the latest-and-greatest regardless of need. For all the good the generous-spenders do for the overall hardware industry (primarily subsidizing development of technologies that eventually trickles down to everyone), everyone should just be grateful. And it's obvious that all the hating is only thinly-veiled jealousy. I mean, what direct/indirect harm does someone who doesn't use their super-pimp rig to its full potential do to you or the industry? What justifies your hatred?

2. Elitists who dog on others for their lesser technical literacy. Unless you work in Tech Support and are harassed daily by irritated lesser-literates exhibiting a bad case of entitlement, then you have no right for disdain. (The tech guy/gal has no right either, but at least the feeling is understandable in his/her case.) All of you were once newbies yourself as well, and you were no better nor more/less deserving of disdain than all the noobs out there now. People who have to shit on perceived lessers just to feel better about themselves are plain lame.

3. Intel/AMD/Apple/nVidia/ATi fanboys.

you said it, brother.

 

[RancidWAnnaRIot]

So much hate here.. how about we all have a cream soda and eat a sandwhich or something?

my peeve is the internet.. it hates me for some reason. Software hates me too. it just never goes my way. Something is always wrong with the software i obtain... and it's legal software too!!!

 

[kronchev]

Originally posted by Sacrificial
I hate:

1. Haters that sneer at "generous-spenders" who buy the latest-and-greatest regardless of need. For all the good the generous-spenders do for the overall hardware industry (primarily subsidizing development of technologies that eventually trickles down to everyone), everyone should just be grateful. And it's obvious that all the hating is only thinly-veiled jealousy. I mean, what direct/indirect harm does someone who doesn't use their super-pimp rig to its full potential do to you or the industry? What justifies your hatred?

2. Elitists who dog on others for their lesser technical literacy. Unless you work in Tech Support and are harassed daily by irritated lesser-literates exhibiting a bad case of entitlement, then you have no right for disdain. (The tech guy/gal has no right either, but at least the feeling is understandable in his/her case.) All of you were once newbies yourself as well, and you were no better nor more/less deserving of disdain than all the noobs out there now. People who have to shit on perceived lessers just to feel better about themselves are plain lame.

1) Because rich people can kiss my ass

2) Actually, I'm a programmer and a student, and everyone asks me questions regardless. In fact they come to me BEFORE tech support because as they have learned, tech support people either know nothing or are so jaded they try not to help. And guess what, people have a right to feel how they want. I could call you an elitist because you seem gun-ho to help people who cant tell their mouse from their asshole to use windows when they wont spend the $20 for the "idiots guide" which really does teach them more than theyll ever use their $3000 computers for.

 

[elm669]

Originally posted by acetic
I hate it when people my age think that I could never possibly build a computer, and then tell me my computer sucks because their parents bought them a $3000 prebuilt, and i had a $400 budget.

I know the feeling

 

[The_In_Kid]

non lifetime warranty computer products

 

[Buckus]

My peeve is people who hate other people. Ahhh! I must hate people!

Seriously, though, if some people want to spend $5000 to get a pimpin computer and all they do is browse the internet, send email, and play solitaire, that's they're business. Don't hate them because they decided to get a good computer.

It's similiar to people buying sports cars, I pass them all the time, but I'd rather be driving that sports car than my Nissan Sentra.

As for newbies always asking questions, well, feel good that people look up to you for knowledge they themselves don't have. That's a compliment to you. Having worked tech support for quite some time, I have gotten alot of different questions, but that's ok, because not everybody can be an expert on everything.

I bet if your toilet needed to be replaced, most of you guys would call a plumber. Or at least, your parents or landlord or whatever would. And that's because the plumber is the expert on these matters. Conversly, I would bet that the plumber would have some questions for you about computers.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by Buckus

As for newbies always asking questions, well, feel good that people look up to you for knowledge they themselves don't have. That's a compliment to you. Having worked tech support for quite some time, I have gotten alot of different questions, but that's ok, because not everybody can be an expert on everything.

I bet if your toilet needed to be replaced, most of you guys would call a plumber. Or at least, your parents or landlord or whatever would. And that's because the plumber is the expert on these matters. Conversly, I would bet that the plumber would have some questions for you about computers.

but we don't expect the plumber to fix our toilet, for free, any time it breaks, just because he's "good with plumbing"

 

[thebro]

well i think there should be a rule on doing a two page google search first then ask and after they ask if some one finds the answer on the 1 or 2ed page the bust their ass.


people are so lazy

 

[LeChuck]

Originally posted by Buckus

As for newbies always asking questions, well, feel good that people look up to you for knowledge they themselves don't have. That's a compliment to you. Having worked tech support for quite some time, I have gotten alot of different questions, but that's ok, because not everybody can be an expert on everything.

I bet if your toilet needed to be replaced, most of you guys would call a plumber. Or at least, your parents or landlord or whatever would. And that's because the plumber is the expert on these matters. Conversly, I would bet that the plumber would have some questions for you about computers.

My problem with newbies is that they often should not be newbies. No one in my family, though we've had a computers in the house for ten years, knows anything about them. Relying on me to troubleshoot their comps because I generally know more than they do isn't fair because they're absolving themselves of any responsibility at my expense. It's inconsiderate.

As for calling a plumber to fix a leaky pipe, that's a different situation entirely as that's tweaking hardware not software (obviously toilets don't have software, but then that's the point, they're not analogous situations). My point is, you don't have to know how to solder a circuit to fix a computer given that most computer problems are software related, or simple hardware issues (analgous perhaps to a loose toilet seat).

Finally, it's also not my damn job to be an expert at fixing computers. If you want to remain a newb, pay for tech support.

Don't think that I'm mad at you. I'm not. I'm just anticipating the next call from my little sister once she's found a creative new way to bork Win 98.

 

[Disarray]

I can't stand intolerant people....

Originally posted by Drinnit

I'm a computer tech at my school, and we mostly fix network problems. I'll sometimes stand in back of a teacher, during their own class time, watching them **** with their own connection, to the point where it's almost beyond repair. Then I kindly ask them to move.

I can see Jimmy Fallon here...a huh, a huh, a huh.....MOVE!.

 

[Kolya]

My pet peeve is people who think broadband is useless and that everyone should just stick with dial-up because it's good enough for them, so it must be good enough for everyone else.

 

[Lime]

As mentioned, I hate people who won't let a 16 year old fix their fuck ups. Another thing I hate is people that bash other people for playing CS. I like it. A million other people like it. Its not one of the most popular online games ever for no reason...I also hate helping everyone with computer problems for free. Like you said with the plumber, the plumber gets paid for his work, as I should.

 

[Buckus]

Originally posted by jagec
but we don't expect the plumber to fix our toilet, for free, any time it breaks, just because he's "good with plumbing"

That is a good point, we don't expect the plumber to fix the toilet for free, and I don't expect to answer questions for free. Try sending people who ask for your help an invoice at the end of the month. Charge $50/hour.

 

[elm669]

Originally posted by Kolya
My pet peeve is people who think broadband is useless and that everyone should just stick with dial-up because it's good enough for them, so it must be good enough for everyone else.

Yep, in my case it took me 6 months to convince the parents that a 26kbps aol connection was not enough...

 

[HHunt]

Originally posted by RancidWAnnaRIot
So much hate here.. how about we all have a cream soda and eat a sandwhich or something?

my peeve is the internet.. it hates me for some reason. Software hates me too. it just never goes my way. Something is always wrong with the software i obtain... and it's legal software too!!!

There is a saying another place that "All software sucks, all hardware sucks." (Unless it's supposed to suck. Then it probably blows.)
I'm beginning to see their point.

Oh, and one thing that frustrates me to no end is people that don't want to learn.

"Look, to print, you press click this picture of a printer."
"I'm just not made for these computer things, it's so hard."
"Well, this, at least shouldn't be too difficult. There's a picture of a printer, to print, press it."
"You can just give up, I'm not good with computers"

Repeat a few times.
Nervous breakdown follows.

 

[Party2go9820]

Originally posted by HHunt
There is a saying another place that "All software sucks, all hardware sucks." (Unless it's supposed to suck. Then it probably blows.)
I'm beginning to see their point.

Oh, and one thing that frustrates me to no end is people that don't want to learn.

"Look, to print, you press click this picture of a printer."
"I'm just not made for these computer things, it's so hard."
"Well, this, at least shouldn't be too difficult. There's a picture of a printer, to print, press it."
"You can just give up, I'm not good with computers"

Repeat a few times.
Nervous breakdown follows.

Mine is similar - I hate the quadrouple zillion clickers. I've got a user who clicks everything about 10 times. Every document she prints comes out in atleast triplicate because she didn't think it "went" so she hit it again. I think she just clicks radomly around the screen just to see what would happen.

Aggrivation++

 

[Black Morty Rackham]

I really can't stand people like that, HHunt. Volontary idiots, pretty much... gah.

And I, like a lot of you, hate people who think they're very knowledgeble and try to educate you on an issue you know way, way, more than them about. The ones who try to patronise you while doing it are even more annoying.

I had a "debate" in a swedish computer forum... someone was asking about processors, which ones where the best for him, yadda yadda, and I said that if you tend to do a lot at once (ie, multitask), you might want multiple processors. And some dumbass goes into a rant about how the Xeon (the 2.2GHz version, no less!) owns everything, especially when it comes to the "MEGA MULTI TASKING" task of 3D rendering (yes, she actually called professional 3D-rendering multitasking).
She also said, when we were talking about operative systems, something along the lines of "BSD = Linux, end of story". Grah... and all the while she kept trying to patronise me, even though I was completely tearing her points and arguments to bits.

 

[HHunt]

Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham
I really can't stand people like that, HHunt. Voluntary idiots, pretty much... gah.

And I, like a lot of you, hate people who think they're very knowledgeble and try to educate you on an issue you know way, way, more than them about. The ones who try to patronise you while doing it are even more annoying.

I had a "debate" in a swedish computer forum... someone was asking about processors, which ones where the best for him, yadda yadda, and I said that if you tend to do a lot at once (ie, multitask), you'll want multiple processors. And some dumbass goes into a rant about how the Xeon (the 2.2GHz version, no less!) owns everything, especially the "MEGA MULTI TASKING" task of 3D rendering (yes, she actually called professional 3D-rendering multitasking).
She also said, when we were talking about operative systems, something along the lines of "BSD = Linux, end of story". Grah... and all the while she kept trying to patronise me, even though I was completely tearing her points and arguments to bits.

Mhm. Much of the same thing, really. I guess it's mostly about being unwilling to look at and absorb information.

(Tough some variants of 3d rendering should multitask nicely, if they're processor-bound and the frames are independent. Some forms of ray-tracing, maybe? Or is the IO load to big?)

 

[Black Morty Rackham]

Originally posted by HHunt
Mhm. Much of the same thing, really. I guess it's mostly about being unwilling to look at and absorb information.

(Tough some variants of 3d rendering should multitask nicely, if they're processor-bound and the frames are independent. Some forms of ray-tracing, maybe? Or is the IO load to big?)

I don't really know the reason... but when I'm talking about something I don't know a lot about, I either Google it up or whatever, or accept that I might not always know everything.


Ehh, well, I defined multitasking in that debate as you, the user, doing lots at once. Rendering is NEVER that...

 

[Dem]

I don't like it when people act like they know more than they do. This stands in all walks of life, but of course since this is GH I'm talking about it in regards to computers.

I don't mind people who aren't as knowledgeable about compuers as I am: I don't expect people to know as much or even near as much as I do about computers anymore than they expect me to know about carpentry or plumbing, or whatever they might do for a living.

People who dislike such lack of knowledge because they don't get paid to fix the problems these people have: Grow a pair and stop letting yourself be used, then! If your time is worth money, CHARGE people when you do computer work. I charge everyone but family and close friends, because I figure my family members always do favours for each other anyway, and ditto with close friends.

Oh, as for actual hardware dislikes:

I don't like super-weak cores like the Athlons have (even though I've never busted one), and I don't like super over-strong cores like P4's have. Can't we just find a pleasant compromise?

Erik

 

[Sean]

Originally posted by Party2go9820
Mine is similar - I hate the quadrouple zillion clickers. I've got a user who clicks everything about 10 times. Every document she prints comes out in atleast triplicate because she didn't think it "went" so she hit it again. I think she just clicks radomly around the screen just to see what would happen.

Aggrivation++

This thread is now disolved into what we don't like about the masses of ignorant computer users. I love the zillion clickers.

They double or tripple click everything. Or don't click enought!

Cheers,

 

[HHunt]

Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham
I don't really know the reason... but when I'm talking about something I don't know a lot about, I either Google it up or whatever, or accept that I might not always know everything.


Ehh, well, I defined multitasking in that debate as you, the user, doing lots at once. Rendering is NEVER that...

I'm usually the same. I think it's because I have a certain fear of being seen as incompetent, or even worse, incompetent, ignorant, and pretending to be neither. A fear more people should share, IMO

I think "Unfounded aggresive self-confidence" is getting closer to the core, here .

And that way, I'd have to agree with you. Though I can see starting a long boring render and doing something else while you're waiting. Probably works best if the render doesn't use all your processors.

 

[Great_Melinko]

Originally posted by Nazo
LOL! OMG, I think I might have to put that in my signature, but then I'd have to remove some of the other junk (no, I'm not trying to brag on the crappy junk I have in my PC, it makes it really easy to discuss issues/etc since my specs are always right there.)



Funny thing about that, according to benchmarks, my current system beats the crap out of a P4 2.4GHz at least and maybe even that. Ok, benchmarks aren't 100% accurate for real life situations, but... Still, it's worth something especially considering that the P4 people get that SSE2 and stuff like that that AMDs don't usually have (or at least not mine) thrown in there which helps them with the results (actually, come to think of it, in anything that doesn't take advantage of those things, the P4s must really suck.)


Anyway, probably my biggest pet peeve (similar to one of the others) is that people like my dad will have this nice setup, the P4 with an 800MHz FSB, two LCDs hooked up to a dual DVI video card, an ultra-fast and positively gigantic HD (ok, not a raptor, but still, much better than the hand-me-downs that I get) and so on. And here I am still using an old mb and cpu (which apparently can't be overclocked very far at all without severe instability) a single old CRT that gives me a headache on those rare occasions I play a game that insists on 640 or 800 @ 60Hz (it makes a noise that could kill a dog.) I mean, if they have so much money to blow on crap they don't need, why don't they just donate a few of those nice things they have to those of us of lesser means...

haha, i had a kt266 pro with a athlon 700 at 850-966. everytime i booted up, it was overclocked to a different speed. onboard usb? nope it crapped out at 135mhz along with the onboard sound
lol

 

[Black Morty Rackham]

Originally posted by HHunt
I'm usually the same. I think it's because I have a certain fear of being seen as incompetent, or even worse, incompetent, ignorant, and pretending to be neither. A fear more people should share, IMO

I think "Unfounded aggresive self-confidence" is getting closer to the core, here

And that way, I'd have to agree with you. Though I can see starting a long boring render and doing something else while you're waiting. Probably works best if the render doesn't use all your processors

Heh... perhaps...


But about the multitasking... she was talking specifically about the work her husband did; professional 3D rendering. If you're able to check your email at the same time doesn't really matter. And if you can afford a bunch of Xeon workstations, you can afford one more computer for stuff like that. Pffbah.

I don't mind people who aren't as knowledgeable about compuers as I am: I don't expect people to know as much or even near as much as I do about computers anymore than they expect me to know about carpentry or plumbing, or whatever they might do for a living.

I agree wholeheartedly. I don't try to correct <insert field here> on <said field>, people who don't know the first thing about computers should just accept the fact that I'm probably right.

Read my sig, biatch!

People who dislike such lack of knowledge because they don't get paid to fix the problems these people have: Grow a pair and stop letting yourself be used, then! If your time is worth money, CHARGE people when you do computer work. I charge everyone but family and close friends, because I figure my family members always do favours for each other anyway, and ditto with close friends.

Gimmie a beer and I'll do it

 

[kronchev]

Originally posted by jagec
but we don't expect the plumber to fix our toilet, for free, any time it breaks, just because he's "good with plumbing"

and its not even that, its like theyre smashing the toilet with a sledge hammer because they dont know any better the first time, i tell them not to do that because its bad for the plumbing, and the moment im gone they drop a stick of dynamite in it. i dont mind the first time, i mind repeated stupidity. at work I had to show someone how to scan at least 20 times. the same person, THE SAME DAY. and its not like it was hard to understand scanning software, it was HP so it had instructions RIGHT THERE.

 

[kronchev]

Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham

I had a "debate" in a swedish computer forum... someone was asking about processors, which ones where the best for him, yadda yadda, and I said that if you tend to do a lot at once (ie, multitask), you might want multiple processors. And some dumbass goes into a rant about how the Xeon (the 2.2GHz version, no less!) owns everything, especially when it comes to the "MEGA MULTI TASKING" task of 3D rendering (yes, she actually called professional 3D-rendering multitasking).
She also said, when we were talking about operative systems, something along the lines of "BSD = Linux, end of story". Grah... and all the while she kept trying to patronise me, even though I was completely tearing her points and arguments to bits.

uhm

sorry to burst your bubble, but dual 3.0 xeons are the fastest processors on the market...and 3d rendering is multitasking, as the apps are multithreaded. and bsd is based on unix, linux is based on unix, so basically they are a lot alike...

 

[Black Morty Rackham]

Originally posted by kronchev
uhm

sorry to burst your bubble, but dual 3.0 xeons are the fastest processors on the market...and 3d rendering is multitasking, as the apps are multithreaded. and bsd is based on unix, linux is based on unix, so basically they are a lot alike...

Not 3.0 Xeons. 2.2. She claimed they were more stable for week-long renders... I don't really know about the stability, but... Dual 3.2 Xeons are faster than 3.0s. I've not seen any benchies for any 3D-apps but Bryce (the G5s were actually the fastest there) so I don't really know which is the best. Hmm.

Rendering isn't multitasking in the sense I was talking about (the user doing lots at once). You didn't burst any bubble.

Yes, BSD is based on UNIX... but saying "BSD = Linux" is just plain wrong!


PFFFFT

 

[Hom@R]

What I hate is when people ask me a question, then argue with my answer. If you are not going to listen to me, why even ask in the first place?

 

[kronchev]

Originally posted by Black Morty Rackham
Not 3.0 Xeons. 2.2. She claimed they were more stable for week-long renders... I don't really know about the stability, but... Dual 3.2 Xeons are faster than 3.0s. I've not seen any benchies for any 3D-apps but Bryce (the G5s were actually the fastest there) so I don't really know which is the best. Hmm.

Rendering isn't multitasking in the sense I was talking about (the user doing lots at once). You didn't burst any bubble.

Yes, BSD is based on UNIX... but saying "BSD = Linux" is just plain wrong!


PFFFFT

True, Xeons are not more stable. no processor is more stable than another, so shes fully of shit there. dual xeons are the fastest, i dont have any benchmarks on me but they are the clear winner, theyre also the most expensive. dual opeterons are only a little slow but much more cheaper.

and she is wrong but on technicalities.

 

[jamestime88]

Originally posted by kronchev
True, Xeons are not more stable. no processor is more stable than another, so shes fully of shit there. dual xeons are the fastest, i dont have any benchmarks on me but they are the clear winner, theyre also the most expensive. dual opeterons are only a little slow but much more cheaper.

and she is wrong but on technicalities.

were getting a little off topic here

my hardware pet peeve is people who argue about hardware just for the sake of arguing and trying to be right.

 

[jyi786]

Slightly OT but amazing nonetheless that no one has mentioned yet:

I HATE when losers buy hardware from you, it doesn't work, they come back to you, you try to explain that it is NOT defective hardware, then they say: "I'm A+ certified. I know what I'm doing."

You test the hardware right in front of them, and it works flawlessly. They are like And you are like Get the f*** out of my face.

Tell me you don't hate people like that???

 

[HiTech-Hate]

The one thing I hate more then anything is the people that call their computers a "CPU". I'll be trying to help someone and they'll be like "So when I tried to turn on my CPU I got a black screen". Even when I correct them most of these ppl are insistent that CPU is the correct name for their computer, I dunno why but this just burns me up lol.

I also hate fanboys, specifically fanboys that make a regular habit of hijacking threads in order to spew their fanboy propoganda (burni .... actually maybe I shouldn't name him, I don't want to ruin this cool thread )

Finally, TECH SUPPORT and RMA processes. Granted there are a number of super reliable and commendable companies when it comes to getting an RMA on a part, or requesting advanced technical assistance with a part, for the most part companies have CRAPPY tech support. Dell comes to mind, I would rather claw my eyes out with a rusty fork then deal with their customer support.

 

[Filter]

i think another one of mine i've been noticing in the overclocking forum is when people whine and cry that they cant get there 2.4 for 2.6 above 3ghz or so. NOT ALL CHIPS ARE CREATED EQUAL. just cause one person can do it with his chip doesnt mean you will be able to get the same results.

 

[theNoid]

The reason it gets so irritating is because computers are becoming more popular across a wider base of people. When I was in hs (94-98), nobody but maybe 10 guys in the whole school knew a thing about computers, so we never had this problem. Now a days, lanning has become such a common thing that even the neighborhood kid who knows nothing about computers wants in. When that happens, you get people who dont' know a thing acting as if they know what their talking about. I don't lan, mainly because I find it completly full of lame children. But I must admit, I absolutely hate it when someone who knows NOTHING, acts as if they are it. Its one thing to not know what your talking about, but it another thing to act as if your Bill Gates and not even know what PSU stands for.

All I have to say is ... BBS's > Internet

gg.

 

[retardedchicken]

i think its funny that someone in my homeroom says that (direct quote here) "newegg sucks and it is way overpriced, you payed 350 for you CPU-mobo(was a chaintech and athlon 3000-64bit)? dude i can get that for 1/4 the cost"

i laugh and ask him where and i never got an answer yet...

also this kid thinks he made maps that were released in counterstrike and says he helped create the game riiiiiiight.

oh, and he also says that ATI graphics chipsets suck. oh yeah? compared to what? Nvidia?!?! im sorry we should all be using volari's shouldnt we

 

[doh-nut]

pet peeve would be someone having a great video card and bad cpu complaining about performance or only having 128mb of ram and all the combinations that can lead to a slow pc that way.

AND people that know that i know a lot about computers, so they try to get into a discussion with me about latest computer parts, they try and basically tell me something i dont know or something that they think would impress me, but they end up just talking about things they have no clue about, taking guesses, when its so apparent they know nothing about it. id rather them just ask questions, cause theres nothing foolish about asking questions.

 

[SlickJesus]

1. people who are A+ certified but don't know shit about Hardware.
2. people who are MCSEs, MCPs or whatever else you can think of don't know jack about administering networks.
3. people who are friends of friends that expect me to work for them for free, just because they know on of MY friends.

(i am aware that #2 isn't hardware related...but it really ticks me off )