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Anyone else play this? Don't think I can really explain it better than the Steam store page, but this game is pimp as fuck and has all but consumed my last couple weeks of game time. Basic premise almost reminds me a bit of Rogue Legacy, except it utterly outclasses it in nearly every way.

Honestly fantastic, ton of fun.

 

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Picked it up at a steam sale. Seems like it's come a long way since it's EA release on the Epic store.
 

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Picked it up a few weeks ago. It's a great game already even though it's still in early access. I've escaped with every weapon and just completed the PoP with 4 skulls. The "cast bow" is broken as all hell.
 

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Just escaped for the first time yesterday with the shield.

The upgrades for wall slams are hilarious. I was knocking things into walls for over 500 damage at times. That plus the bull rush replacement where you fire a shot is insane.

It was hitting for over 200, and you're practically unhittable while charging it. I'm tempted to say it's bordering on broken since it's like the bow except it blocks fucking everything.
 

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The upgrades for wall slams are hilarious. I was knocking things into walls for over 500 damage at times. That plus the bull rush replacement where you fire a shot is insane.

It was hitting for over 200, and you're practically unhittable while charging it. I'm tempted to say it's bordering on broken since it's like the bow except it blocks fucking everything.

The problem with wall slams is that they're practically useless against bosses. If you take the cast bow and take Dionysus' Trippy Shot or Aphrodite's cast ability it will crit for over 1k.
 

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The problem with wall slams is that they're practically useless against bosses. If you take the cast bow and take Dionysus' Trippy Shot or Aphrodite's cast ability it will crit for over 1k.

Yeah it's a tradeoff. Regular encounters are SUPER easy with the Shield - but I like the bow better for boss battles. I bought this last night and I'm friggin hooked. Game is awesome.
 

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It's the most fully fleshed out Early Access game I've ever seen. The lore and systems are pretty much perfect as they are. It basically feels like it's finished and they're just adding free DLC every 45 days or so. I've unlocked everything except for some of the high gem cosmetics (800 gem pillars and such) and a couple of Fates. It's one of the few games where I get excited waiting for the next patch.
 

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I was really quite surprised by the amount of unique dialog in the game. There's a _lot_.
 

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The new patch just dropped the other day.

Early Access Patch 040: The NIGHTY NIGHT Update - March 10, 2020

This Major Update opens up even more ways to battle out of hell, with a powerful new weapon, new weapon Aspects, and lots more story to sink your teeth into! As always, we will be closely monitoring feedback and are planning on at least a couple of follow-up patches. Thank you very much for playing!


Highlights

Malphon, the Twin Fists: pummel your foes into the ground with this furious close-quarters weapon
Mirror of Night Rework: now with twice the Talents, inviting more choices to fit your playstyle
Aspect of Arthur: wield the might of Holy Excalibur with this legendary Aspect of the Stygian Blade
Improved Visual Effects: we've made frenetic combat easier to parse without compromising the oomph
New Pact of Punishment Conditions: see if you can survive Benefits Package and Routine Inspection
Administrative Chamber: access your Permanent Record beyond a mysterious locked door in the House
New House of Hades Events: the god of the dead's residence is livelier than ever
Expanded Story: hours of added narrative featuring Nyx, Chaos, Artemis, Zeus, and more


Infernal Arms, Aspects, & Abilities

Twin Fists: new! Unlock earlier weapons to reveal this (once you return from an escape attempt)
Twin Fists (Zagreus Aspect): new! Gain attack speed and dodge chance
Twin Fists (Talos Aspect): new! Drag foes to you with the power of the Magnetic Cutter
Twin Fists (Demeter Aspect): new! Obliterate foes with the power of the Giga Cutter
Stygian Blade (Arthur Aspect): new! Seek Nyx to learn more (unlock Guan Yu and Blade aspects first)
Eternal Spear (Guan Yu Aspect): Spin attack now bounces off obstacles rather than passing through
Adamant Rail: increased accuracy; now the sixth weapon to be unlocked, after the Twin Fists
• Added one more frame of invulnerability to the Dash (you now are fully invulnerable until you can move)


Boons & Blessings

• Reduced base offering rate of Legendary and Duo Boons; a new Mirror Talent lets you boost this
Huge Catch (Poseidon): new! Increases chance of finding fishing points
Holy Shield (Athena): fixed Evergreen Acorn (Eurydice) activating at the same time when you are hit
True Shot (Artemis): reduced damage scaling from improved rarity
📢 Unhealthy Fixation (Aphrodite): can now be offered if you have Broken Resolve; fixed issues where Charmed damage bonus did not expire
Battle Rage (Ares): expires after first hit from Aspect of Zeus Throw special; no longer expires when recalling the Spear's Throw special
📢 Urge to Kill (Ares): improved scaling from Poms
Snow Burst (Demeter): now correctly fires at your position while loading ammo using Aspect of Hera; no longer hits through obstacles
📢 Mistral Dash (Demeter): increased damage
📢 Atrophic (Chaos): fixed issues causing incorrect adjustments to Life Total
Roiling (Chaos): duration no longer reduced by Boss encounters (since it does not affect those encounters)
Auto Reload (Hermes): new! Regenerate Bloodstones faster (if you have a certain Mirror talent)
Bad News (Hermes): new! Deal bonus Cast damage to foes without Cast ammo in them (if you have a certain Mirror talent)
Greater Recall (Hermes): now requires first having one of Hermes' Cast-affecting Boons
Flurry Shot (Hermes): reduced power scaling from improved rarity
Quick Reload (Hermes): increased power scaling at Heroic rarity


Daedalus Hammer Upgrades

📢 Double Nova (Blade): reduced penalty to damage radius
📢 Cursed Slash (Blade): reduced penalty to Life Total
📢 Charged Volley (Bow): increased minimum range; no longer offered while using Aspect of Chiron
Relentless Barrage (Bow): fixed an issue where it sometimes stopped working with Aspect of Chiron
Chain Shot (Bow): shots no longer bounce off of invisible Chamber boundaries
Minotaur Rush (Shield): increased Bull Rush Power Shot damage
📢 Charged Shot (Shield): increased minimum range
Explosive Return (Shield): slightly reduced damage
Exploding Launcher (Rail): slightly reduced damage
Cluster Bomb (Rail): adjusted firing pattern
Hazard Bomb (Rail): now fires on press (rather than on release); fixed interaction with Inescapable Blast
Spread Fire (Rail): reworked; now fires as a single, powerful blast
Long Knuckle (Fist): new! Attacks have improved range and damage
Rolling Knuckle (Fist): new! Attack combo ends in a powerful hook punch
Concentrated Knuckle (Fist): new! Successive attacks against the same foe deal more damage
Breaching Cross (Fist): new! Your Dash-Strike pierces foes and deals bonus damage to Armor
Explosive Upper (Fist): new! Your Dash-Special (unique to Twin Fists) deals bonus area damage
Rush Kick (Fist): new! Dash toward foes with a powerful kick
Flying Cutter (Fist): new! Hold Special for a stronger, longer range strike
Draining Cutter (Fist): new! Slay foes with your Cutter special to restore some Life
Quake Cutter (Fist): new! Deal area damage while landing from your Cutter special


Foes & Encounters

'Trial of the Gods': updated many effects from spurned gods; no longer occur in smaller chambers
Thanatos: reduced appearance rate in Tartarus; removed Flame Wheels from appearing in these fights
📢 Larger chambers in Asphodel now only appear later in the region
Bone Hydra: a wider variety of heads can appear (note that no new types have been added)
📢 Exalted Longspear: attack visual more closely matches its hit box
📢 Splitter: updated pattern of split-firing projectiles (it should look better)
The Minotaur: updated spin attack, specific to the effect of Extreme Measures (Pact)
📢 Theseus: can no longer invoke Demeter's aid before you have met her
📢 Crawler: Elite variant no longer appears, although...
• ...added a terrifying new mini-boss encounter to the Temple of Styx...


Mirror of Night

Reworked! More choices, improved usability, reduced total Darkness cost; in more detail:
• Added a new flip-side Talent for each Talent! Only one Talent per pair can be active at a time
• Removed ability to subtract ranks in a given talent; added a full Darkness refund option
• Talents are no longer all visible at the start of the game; they are now unlocked two rows at a time
• Later Talents cost less Darkness; if you had more invested than is now required, it has been refunded. Total Darkness required to max all Talents is less than before (when there were half as many Talents)
Fiery Presence: new! Deal more damage vs. undamaged foes
Dark Regeneration: new! Recover health when you collect Darkness
Stubborn Defiance: new! A single Death Defiance effect that replenishes in each Chamber
Ruthless Reflex: new! Dash just before taking damage for bonus damage and dodge chance
Stygian Soul: new! Your Cast ammo regenerates automatically (instead of dropping from foes)
Golden Touch: new! Earn money between Underworld regions based on how much you have
High Confidence: new! Deal bonus damage while your Life Total is high
Abyssal Blood: new! Foes with Cast ammo in them move slower and deal less damage
Family Favorite: new! Deal bonus damage for each different Olympian whose Boons you have
Olympian Legacy: new! Improves chance of finding Duo or Legendary Boons
Gods' Chosen: new! Improves chance of finding chambers with Boons, Hammers, or Poms
Fated Persuasion: new! You can randomly alter Boon and Well of Charon choices offered
Note: We have plans to do even more with the Darkness resource in future updates


Keepsakes & Items

Lucky Tooth (Skelly): reduced healing at higher ranks (bringing it in line with other defensive Keepsakes)
Broken Spearpoint (Fallen Warrior): fixed issues with it not working against some Final Boss attacks
Black Shawl (Nyx): reworked; now gives bonus damage vs. undamaged foes and while backstabbing
📢 Companion Mort (Thanatos): no longer blockable by shield-bearing foes
Companion Rib (Skelly): increased resistance to wall-slam damage
Companion Shady (Sisyphus): resource drops now affected by certain Boons; reduced money drops
Touch of Styx (Well): new! Improves healing from Stubborn Defiance
Touch of Styx Dark (Fallen Warrior): new! A superior version of the above
Trove Tracker (Well): no longer offered in the Temple of Styx (Lord Hades wouldn't put troves there)


Pact of Punishment

📢 Budget Cuts: cut from game; replaced with...
📢 Routine Inspection: new! Disables Mirror of Night talents, three at a time from the bottom
📢 Benefits Package: new! Gives Dire (a.k.a Armored) foes an assortment of nasty Perks:
Shifter: teleports around from time to time
Bruiser: extra armor
Puller: surrounded by a field that pulls you in
Savior: intermittently makes nearby foes briefly invulnerable
Slugger: hits harder
Speeder: moves and attacks faster
Linker: links to other foes via a continuous beam that damages you
Cloner: summons 1-Life copies of itself
Burner: spews molten puddles
Seeker: ranged attacks track you
Popper: bursts into Exalted Shades that self-destruct
• The Condition previously called No Choice now is called Approval Process


Permanent Record

new! Added a screen summarizing each of your escape attempts; find it in the House's locked chamber
Note: This is a first-pass version of this screen, which we expect to continue improving in subsequent Major Updates


House Contractor

• Added items specific to certain subplots...


Fated List of Minor Prophecies

Whence Night and Darkness Came: new! Nyx and Chaos shall be reunited
Musician and Muse: new! Orpheus and Eurydice shall be reunited
The Holy King: new! The Aspect of Arthur shall reach the surface
Slashed Benefits: new! Foes with all Benefits Package Perks shall be slain
Denizens of the Deep: new! A variety of fish shall be caught
Dark Reflections: new! Successful escapes shall be completed using all Mirror Talents
End to Torment: aiding Sisyphus is more involved than before (if you haven't done this yet)
• Updated requirements to fulfill several other Prophecies (won't affect you if you've already fulfilled them)


Level Design & Environments

• Added two new chambers to Asphodel
📢 It is easier to reliably dash across gaps in several Temple of Styx chambers
📢 Updated, clearer cover layout in the Final Boss chamber
• The lounge's kitchen area in the House of Hades is easier to get to
• You can now get into one of the locked chambers in the House of Hades...
• Other minor fixes and improvements to various chambers


Art & Visual FX

• Updated main menu based on new Major Update
• Added new portraits and character model for Nyx
• Added new character model and animations for Hypnos
• Added new animations for Dusa
• Added some new animations for Lord Hades
• Added unique art, animation, and VFX for the Twin Fists and its Aspects
• Added unique art, animation, and VFX for the Aspect of Arthur (Blade)
• Updated the look of Olympian Boon pick-ups
• Updated the look of the House Contractor screen
• Updated the look of the Well of Charon screen
• Updated the look of the Pool of Purging screen
• Updated the look of the Fated List screen
• Updated the look of information panels (e.g. the one that says THERE IS NO ESCAPE)
• Added presentation while resetting offered choices using Fated Persuasion (Mirror)
• Added and updated some icons in the Mirror of Night and Pact of Punishment
• Added graphical icons for various new Boons, Aspects, and Upgrades
• Updated the look of one of the locked doors in the House of Hades
• Made various improvements, detailed below, that in aggregate should improve clarity during combat
• Updated on-hit visual effects (they are cleaner and now have directionality)
• Updated on-hit visual effects for rapid-fire attacks
• Updated on-hit visual effects for foes with Armor
• Updated visual effects when foes are slain
• Updated the look of damage shroud (i.e., when you get hit; this no longer reduces visibility as much)
• Updated the look of the Power Shot full-screen effect (not as jarring as before)
• Updated the look of Trap floor panels (they should be easier to spot)
• Foes' Summoning Circles now are sized relative to the foe; they have varying sound effects as well
• Minor improvements to the look of the Underworld Map between regions
• Minor improvements to Weapon Unlock presentation
• Other minor visual changes, fixes, and improvements


Menus & UI

• Updated Mirror of Night screen and presentation based on new functionality
📢 Added category-specific indicators when House Contractor has new items or is sold out
📢 Added reminder to activate Legendary Keepsakes in certain contexts
• Added feedback when failing to power up Pierced Butterfly (Thanatos) or Lambent Plume (Hermes)
• Added ammo-regeneration indicator while using Stygian Soul (Mirror)
• Improved sorting of resources along right screen edge
📢 Improved feedback using Charged Throw (Spear)
• Made various improvements, detailed below, that in aggregate should improve clarity during combat
• Updated Damage Numbers presentation to reduce clutter (successive damage now ticks up a single number)
• Updated Boon Sidebar to show only relevant Boons (everything is still in the Boon Info screen)
• Updated Status Curse stack feedback on foes
• Other minor fixes, changes, and improvements


Music & SFX

• Added new sound effects for the Twin Fists
• Added new sound effects for the Aspect of Arthur (Blade)
• Updated sound effects for the Well of Charon and Purging Pool
• Updated sound effects for the House Contractor
• Updated sound effects for some attacks from spurned Olympians
• Added and updated ambient sounds in some chambers
• Other minor changes, fixes, and mix improvements


Voice & Narrative

• Extended Affinity Gauges for Nyx, Chaos, Artemis, and Zeus (you can give them more gifts)
• Added many narrative events (with Nyx, Chaos, Orpheus, Eurydice, Artemis, Zeus, Hades, and more)
• Added new Remembrance sequences (when Lord Hades appears at the start of some escape attempts)
• Added several new Duo Boon interactions for some pairings
• Added many new Zagreus voice lines to various contexts for additional variety
📢 Added more voiceover variety in the Final Boss encounter
• Added Codex entry for Malphon, the Twin Fists
📢 Added Codex entries for Underworld Regions (i.e., various locations)
📢 Added Codex entries for River Denizens (i.e., fish)
• Added Codex entries for Fables (use Legendary Keepsakes to unlock these)
• Updated Codex entry for Nyx
📢 Added utterly nightmarish new Flashback Sequence...
• Added yet another new Early Access Ending variant
• Minor changes to effects on Nyx voiceover
• Updated requirements and other minor changes to various narrative events
• Fixes and tuning to various contextual voice events
• Added several missing subtitles


New Settings

📢 Added Master Volume setting to Settings
📢 Added Screen Shake toggle to Settings


Miscellaneous

• Updated Development Roadmap to reflect our plans for our next Major Update, slated for June
• Added community-translated content in some languages (translations are ongoing for newer content)
• Added a number of new Victory Screen Commendations
Lord Hades will sometimes judge the shades gathered in his Great Hall
Dusa and Megaera will sometimes be gossiping in the lounge
Hypnos will sometimes fall back asleep
📢 Wretched Broker now has a Limited Time Offer letting you exchange Darkness for Gemstones
📢 While switching auto-aim targets with the Bow and Rail, Zagreus quickly rotates instead of snapping (this is a cosmetic change with no effect on aim speed)
• Urns can now be broken as a result of some knock-away effects (not just direct attack)
• Added a visual hint when trying to exit chambers before collecting the reward
Keepsake Screen no longer shows available Ambrosia before it can be used there
• Minor improvements to door interact presentation in the Temple of Styx
• Minor improvements to Rod of Fishing presentation
Sisyphus now tosses items in your general direction
• Updated Credits with additional Community Contributors (Thank you for all your help!!)
📢 References to lava changed to magma (as is well known, magma is beneath the earth, lava is above it)
📢 Various text fixes, updates, and clarifications


Bug Fixes

• Fixed lag issues using Switch Pro controllers (if you run into input issues, please report them by pressing F10)
• Fixed rare instances of foes taking wall-slam damage multiple times from a single knock-away effect
📢 Fixed damage effects playing after Death Defiance activation, rather than before
📢 Fixed Splendid Lyre sometimes not making a sound when used
📢 Fixed God of War (Fated List) coming from Artemis rather than Ares
• Fixed an issue where gifting Thanatos during an escape attempt made him noninteractive in the House
• Fixed being able to use exits in some Chambers while using the Rod of Fishing
• Fixed certain story events in the Prince's Bedchambers not queuing properly
• Fixed issues toggling some House Decor items from the House Contractor
• Fixed a graphical issue exiting the Temple of Styx
• Fixed a visual issue where Chill effects would tint a character's speech bubble
• Fixed a visual issue when Wave-Makers are affected by Chill effects
📢 Fixed weapon charge-up sounds sometimes persisting between chambers
📢 Many other minor fixes
 

delita

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I suck with the fists so far, gonna take me a bit to GIT GUD with those up close. I mastered ranged and I mostly only play bow or rail nowadays, but it's a cool melee weapon.

Can't wait to see what this game turns into in terms of additional content and if there will be more game past the current last boss. I'm assuming so. Random GOTY for me so far. And it's more polished than half the AAA titles out there and it's in fkin EA. Making other development companies look REAL BAD.
 

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I just picked up the the Steam version I liked the IGN review and the guy I work with just picked it up for the Nintendo Switch.
I know the game was on Epic at first and showed up on Steam at a later date. I'll see what it's like on my midweekend.


 

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I've only played like one round since the big patch, been meaning to revisit it.

Really want to see where some of the story beats wind up. And I've only beat it with a few weapons, haven't even tried the fists yet.
 

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There is a major cult following for this game. Not sure how or why, but it's really popular/beloved while still being under the radar.
 

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Hades is my Game of the Year by far, i'm at 175 completed runs* and I'm nearly done 100% everything. Been playing since the earliest early access period and have not been disappointed by anything.

*When I started playing, runs ended at the Hydra, You couldn't actually reach the surface until well over a year of early access. So its not that comparable to people who started at 1.0
 

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Just picked this up on the Switch. Haven't been able to put it down. We've been in the middle of house renovations, and a possible move, so the Switch is all I have to play on at the moment. Glad I grabbed this game. It's definitely an overhead Dead Cells. Very cool.
 

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There is a major cult following for this game. Not sure how or why, but it's really popular/beloved while still being under the radar.
Its made by Supergiant Games. They made Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre. All 3 of which were well reviewed and well received indy games. Its no surprise Hades is at least as well received, if not better.

Hades was also in early access for some time. And they interacted a lot with their community and made changes and tweaks which were obviously inspired by the community.
 

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Hades is my Game of the Year by far, i'm at 175 completed runs* and I'm nearly done 100% everything. Been playing since the earliest early access period and have not been disappointed by anything.

*When I started playing, runs ended at the Hydra, You couldn't actually reach the surface until well over a year of early access. So its not that comparable to people who started at 1.0
What's your favorite weapon been?

I almost always take whatever has the bonus, but the shield and spear with life steal seem to be the easiest wins.
 

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Aegis Shield for me - game practically becomes easy mode once you understand the mechanics of that weapon. Quickest run has been just under 30 minutes (Shield+Poseidon boons).

Great game, btw.
 

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Fastest/easiest weapon for me has been the Bow with the straight Crit modifier. Get a high damage % Boon for Attack, Aphrodite or Poseidon is probably best. Daedalus' hammer provides the 5% Gold to Damage modifier, autofire and remove charge, or double shot, or triple shot, or close/far range increased Attack damage, and you got a stew baby. Stack damage reduction, get an invincibility Call like Ares or Athena or Poseidon... Some Dashes...

Using the Mirror's last ability to allow re-rolling the current Boons on screen to give a better chance at getting the right slot or rarity boons is pretty important.

Fastest time around 19 minutes with Fists or Bow I think and 16 or so Heat. Game's good.
 

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Funny enough my *best* weapon is Exalibur. Did a 15 minute clear with 10 heat ob excalibur, was doing 2k+ crits to hades and with the Athena call I just stood there and wacked at him till he died about 45 seconds later.

I think my favorite weapon is the fists with magnetic cutter. But I've beaten 12+ heat with every weapon at this point.
 

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Picked this up on EGS for pretty cheap - started playing yesterday. Quite good, one of the better roguelikes I've played (typically I don't like the genre). Always feels like you are making some sort of progress every run, and it's cool that more stuff opens up over time.
 
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I'll try it again, it didnt do much for me the first time I played it but that was upon release, perhaps now its more interesting.
 

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Got this game for Christmas! Finally escaped from hades using the base sword and life steal with Athena deflection on attack. What a blast. I liked bastion but this is more of what I wanted.
 

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I bought this last week after a friend recommended it. It's fun, but I'm not sure I understand it completely. Do I ever skip forward after clearing a level or do I have to re-do the whole chabang every time?
 

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I bought this last week after a friend recommended it. It's fun, but I'm not sure I understand it completely. Do I ever skip forward after clearing a level or do I have to re-do the whole chabang every time?
You repeat the levels. They're randomly generated, but you're always completing the same depths, in the same order, with the same boss fights.

When you get far enough, you eventually add difficulty modifiers to them in order to continue obtaining the currency items that bosses drop.

Each 'run' is unique in the sense that the story progresses after every death, you unlock weapon/skill upgrades, etc.
 

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I think I'm started to "get" it and am having a good time. I do seem to have hit a wall with the boss fight that includes both the minotaur and warrior champion guy at the same time. I've gotten moderately close to winning a couple times, but by the time I even get there I'm usually down to my last life. The fact that it takes me 20'ish minutes to get back (if I even can) there is a little daunting, too.
Is there any way to speed up the process of getting back or anything like that?
 

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I think I'm started to "get" it and am having a good time. I do seem to have hit a wall with the boss fight that includes both the minotaur and warrior champion guy at the same time. I've gotten moderately close to winning a couple times, but by the time I even get there I'm usually down to my last life. The fact that it takes me 20'ish minutes to get back (if I even can) there is a little daunting, too.
Is there any way to speed up the process of getting back or anything like that?

Only way to speed up the run is to "get good". Soon you'll be whooping Theseus' and Asterius' asses without even worrying about taking damage. Usually takes me 10-15 minutes to get to that point (Full game clear in 16-20 minutes on average) and that's way behind the really skilled folks.

I think the the progression of my game knowledge and skills were what really drew me in to Hades. After my first completion I wasn't sure there was much reason to continue and the Pact of Punishment that unlocks (allows use of setting gameplay modifiers that make the game more difficult) just seemed unnecessary. I mean once I beat a game I'm generally not going to go back and play it just because it's more difficult. But Hades kept bringing me back with the "Damn, that run was tough but I almost made it and there's STILL new dialog and shit to unlock. One more run." Before long it started to feel pretty easy even on higher heat runs (20 is my max so far which is way below the pros) but it was still a fun challenge and quite rewarding IMO.
 
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I feel like I'm definitely improving...although some of my improved success is due to the mirror and such. I've made it to Hades 4-5 times, but I have yet to kill his 2nd form. Usually because I'm pretty beat up by the time I get there. After not having a ton of issues with Theseus initially, he has become a pain in my ass of late. Him and all of those damned poison enemies in the last area. Is there any trick to finding the "right" reward door in that area? Any weapons tips? I feel comfortable with most everything except the bow. The times I've done the best have been with the sword, shield, and machinegun.
 

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Whew, okay - I finally beat Hades. I have the most success with the machinegun's bombs powered up to be giant/strong but inflicting friendly fire. That combined with Dionysus' "Trippy Shot" is hell on wheels as long as I can stay moving. I also do well with the 3x bombs ability.

It's a neat but simple game and I can see myself popping in here and there to play more. I still can't use the bow for shit, but I can at least get to the final area with all the other weapons.
 

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Whew, okay - I finally beat Hades. I have the most success with the machinegun's bombs powered up to be giant/strong but inflicting friendly fire. That combined with Dionysus' "Trippy Shot" is hell on wheels as long as I can stay moving. I also do well with the 3x bombs ability.

It's a neat but simple game and I can see myself popping in here and there to play more. I still can't use the bow for shit, but I can at least get to the final area with all the other weapons.

Trying to avoid spoilers
but did you "beat" Hades or did you beat Hades?
 

Bankie

[H]ard|Gawd
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Whew, okay - I finally beat Hades. I have the most success with the machinegun's bombs powered up to be giant/strong but inflicting friendly fire. That combined with Dionysus' "Trippy Shot" is hell on wheels as long as I can stay moving. I also do well with the 3x bombs ability.

It's a neat but simple game and I can see myself popping in here and there to play more. I still can't use the bow for shit, but I can at least get to the final area with all the other weapons.
Try the bow that loads your cast as an attack. Then pick up cast damage buffs and boons like Trippy shot; absolutely wrecks. I initially didn't like the bow but I think it has some of the most fun hammer upgrades and builds. The "machinegun" special unlock is super fun to experiment with also.
 

TheSlySyl

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I've played a fair amount of Hades, I've managed to get to at least heat 15 with every weapon (beating all the heats up to that point.) for well over 200 completed runs. I wouldn't really call it "simple" as some of the boon synergy combinations for late game take a pretty damn good understanding of the mechanics.
 
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Domingo

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I've played a fair amount of Hades, I've managed to get to at least hit 15 with every weapon (beating all the heats up to that point.) for well over 200 completed runs. I wouldn't really call it "simple" as some of the boon synergy combinations for late game take a pretty damn good understanding of the mechanics.

Maybe "simple" isn't the right word, but it's not a huge game with 500 enemy types or anything like that. There are boatloads of weapon/boon/cast combos, though.
 
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