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[H] In trouble!?!

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Remember all that crap about the Infinium's Phantom? Well, those shady bastards are thinking of suing [H]ardOCP over their supposed "misinformation" about the Phantom

In a conference call to analysts and the press, Infinium president and COO Kevin Bachus said the article was "false and defamatory," and it "painted a portrait of a company intent on swindling the public...and that is unacceptable."

According to Bachus, Infinium will begin legal action within 10 days unless HardOCP removes the article from its site. Bachus said the action is necessary for the company to maintain a "credible and direct relationship with consumers."
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Phantom hasn't been the most eager company to say anything about their hardware though. Everything [H] posted was of their own research, with proof even. Even though, if nothing else, it is covered by the 1st Amendment, as far as I know.

Whats the freaking problem here?

I hope those bastards lose all their money on this baseless accusation!
 
Originally posted by Kido1986[LG]
I hope those bastards lose all their money on this baseless accusation!
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They don't have any money of their own. That's why the want to sue others...it's their only way of making money. Lying about their product didn't rope in the venture capitalists, so now their on to option 2...desperation.
 
There's no way they can push this through unless they can give material evidence contradicting [H]'s article.
 
lol, they definitely came up with a great name for their console. The mere fact that they are willing to sue over this article, supports what was written by [H] staff.
 
Actually, I'm willing to bet that this is essentially a game of legal chicken. They're trying to bully [H] down cause they know that a legal battle would be costly and difficult to support.

Or else WHY would they bother giving a 10 day warning? Courtesy? HAH. They want us to give up because they probably don't have the case to support their lawsuit at all.

In fact if its so defamatory and false, why did they wait FIVE MONTHS to do anything about it? This whole thing reeks.
 
I'd tell Infinium to release the current build on the console to [H] to test to attempt to prove they aren't full of shit.

If the console at least exists, I would personally post an appology but I know there will almost never be a real console.
 
All I have to say is that those guys over at Infinium Labs are pretty damn pathetic if the only way they can think of to get money is to sue the [H]. I'm also going to have to agree with NightRaven--they can sue all they want but with no solid evidence to contradict the [H]'s article the suit will just get thrown out.

...besides, even if they do ever release their craptacular console, I'm not gonna buy it.
 
If you were me, I'd say "kill them all, and let GOD sort them out"

again...that's just me.
 
As a loyal [H] reader for a few years, I have to say I wholeheartdely stand behind Kyle and his response. They were given ample time to rectify the situation, and have chosen not to.
 
lol. Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the US. Yeah, this is the reason why so many people strive to become lawyers... pathetic attempts to sue people in order to shut them up, reap settlements, and get nasty things done legally. I'm pretty sure this lawsuit has no merit and Kyle can easily afford a half-way decent attorney and have the judge dismiss it.

I guess Inf. Lab is taking a page from SCO.
 
We will see what happens. Here is an official statement.

I have extended HardOCP.com’s pledge to correct any and all possible inconsistencies or errors in our editorial entitled "Behind the Infinium Phantom Console" (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTEy) personally to Timothy Roberts and Kevin Bachus of Infinium Labs and they have yet to inform HardOCP.com of any information we presented as being not correct. This courtesy was extended on September 17, 2003, the date the article was published and has been extended several times since then with no reply ever being received by HardOCP.com. It is my opinion that Infinium Labs’ only interest is stifling HardOCP.com and our opinions. HardOCP.com still stands by our thoughts and opinions put forth in our editorial and no amount of legal badgering and frivolous lawsuits will change those opinions that we have shared with our readers.
 
Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
Freedom of the press?

Why can't anybody have an opinion about anything anymore without getting sued for 'ruining my companies reputation'

This legal system is utter bull shit.

I'll be very sad if they somehow manage to win..
 
Hey they're just taking lessons from SCO. If it works for one group of _________ it might work for another group of ________. You have to fill in the blanks, I don;t want to get sued. :cool:
 
Originally posted by three_sixteen
Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
Freedom of the press?
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How does that apply to this? Both only protect you from governmental action. Even that has limits that are mostly sensible. If somebody says things about you that are slanderous, you can sue. Or beat the shit out of them.
 
Originally posted by qdemn7
Hey they're just taking lessons from SCO.
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yeah and if they keep going to class they are gonna end up getting dos attacked like sco ;) lol...j/p

but i have seen operational pictures of the phantom, its on their fourms (look for phantom pics). nothing exciting and i doubt it will come out any time soon. (they were home photos for christ sake, the other pics were 3d renders)

edit: and btw [H] is just too [H]ard for silly lawsuits. :cool:
 
Just think Kyle, if the suit goes to trial and you win, you will own Infinium Labs....not that it's worth much.:p
 
I thought that the September article by Hardocp.com on infinium labs was awesome, that companies were in his mothers name and other crap like that I thought really gave a sense of what kind of company Infinium labs is.
 
Originally posted by merlin704
Just think Kyle, if the kawsuit goes to trial and you win, you will own Infinium Labs....not that it's worth much.:p
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Then he can sell a fictitous console called a P[H]antom2
 
Originally posted by djnes
Then he can sell a fictituous console called a P[H]antom2
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But the thing is, I'm sure Kyle actually has the capital to release a Phantom.:D
 
Dam can't even have an opinion any more:eek:
Bring on the solient green

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Just think Kyle, if the suit goes to trial and you win, you will own Infinium Labs....not that it's worth much.
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Got a job for me?
 
"After the initial publication of your article, Infinium had arranged a meeting with you at the Consumer Electronics Show to correct your published statements and discuss its products and services, yet you failed to appear for this appointment" (from page one of their letter)

--any truth to this or is it just a fabrication by Infinium to make the [H] look bad?
 
Originally posted by merlin704
But the thing is, I'm sure Kyle actually has the capital to release a Phantom.:D
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Why the hell would he want to do that? Geez, then he would have to put up with all these websites wanting to review his product, and give him hell when it was a .........., uh, well, never mind. :eek:

Hey guys, it sure is windy in North Texas today. What's the weather like in your area. ;)
 
Originally posted by qdemn7
Why the hell would he want to do that? Geez, then he would have to put up with all these websites wanting to review his product, and give him hell when it was a .........., uh, well, never mind. :eek:

Hey guys, it sure is windy in North Texas today. What's the weather like in your area. ;)
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I don't know what the weather is like outside. I've been in front of teh PC all day!:eek:
 
Wait.. wasn't the phantom at CES? You know, the only piece of electronics there that WASN'T hooked up, plugged in, or demo'ed.

I'd rather not say much more, or they might start pulling a "petswearhouse" and sue anyone who posts in the forum about their opinion of the matter for "defamation" and stuff.
 
company with no product operating on questionable terms...

vs.

computer website with large fanbase of computer customers who are hopefully going to be the one's buying said product.

tell me how this makes sense, they first say how great their non-existant product is, then when people question said non-existent product, they attack them? how lame is that?

go kyle.

edit: last point, wait do they even have the capital to suddenly start suing folks?
 
Naw a company(in my opinion) wouldn't be that d well maybe they would .
 
It is jackasses like Mr. Roberts that caused the market to go to shit like it did, that and the morons that backed people like him.

Oh and Kyle read your article on him, very good job on that.
 
Originally posted by HRslammR
they first say how great their non-existant product is
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im not tryin to be smart or support the phantom (definately because they are messing with [H] )...

but they its not really a non-existant product..its in 'beta' or 'prototype' stage right now, they have pics (mostly home photos or 3-d renders)...but i get what your saying. ill "truly" believe they are existant when they release it or atleast show a working version at e3 or somthing. but even then, i wouldnt buy it.

and yeah...great article kyle
 
those ppl at infinium shoudl talkt to some smart attorneys any good ones would advise against this, same thing as the MikeRoweSoft.com if he had talked to a laywer he would've found out that microsoft had no legal grounds and couldn've got a bigger settlement than a damn xbox
 
somethings definitely up wit this law crap

also with the article on Infinium Labs, it does seem like it doesnt even exist, as if its a scam to get our money

what i think is they just made up a company to start a money making scheme and when they get the money, they run to australia or somewhere far far away from the feds
 
Omigawd!!! MoFo!!! I just clicked on one of the links. I cannot believe a group of people would call their company that. On the other hand, they're lawyers. It's about time to reread Shakespeare. :rolleyes:
 
well, I must say that I'm impressed with this forum's communitee more and more every visit I make (well... more like... while I do nothing but browse the forums) Normally what I see when a legal related thread comes up all the people who think they're lawyers come out and make fools of themselves:p


BTW, whoever it was that said they werent going to buy their non-existant console... i don't know why, but that was just histeracle to me lmao.

One more thing, I don't think that the big [H] is in any trouble at. This whole comapny is almost comical in the way that they start off their business by seuing a review site, lol.


My god... I couldn't spell if my life depended on it.
 
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