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jamaicanpi

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Since we are all interested in SFF, I thought it would be nice if there was a database that listed the shortest version of each graphics card (it tends to be the determining factor for case size). There are too many graphics cards out there for one person to find the shortest version of each, but I knew if I didn't start things off, this post would die quickly. So I wrote a script to scour length information from NewEgg which will at least be a good start to get the ball rolling. If others find shorter cards than what I have listed, I'll update the post and attribute the information to the finder (for pride).

I am going to list the shortest cards I have found from NewEgg's posted data and organize them by NVIDIA and AMD. I am listing the models that I think will most interest people and I will add models based on request. If you'd like to see more of the card length information that Newegg shares this is the link.

NVIDIA

GTX590: 11" / 279mm
EVGA: 03g-p3-1598-ar
Side connector

GTX580: 10.5" / 267mm
EVGA: 015-p3-1580-ar + Palit: ne5x5800f10cb + Zotac: ZT-50102-10p + PNY: VCGGTX580XPB
Side connector

GTX570: 9" / 229mm - Non-reference
EVGA: 570 HD models (4 options) + Galaxy: 57NKH3HS4GXK + Zotac: ZT-50204-10M [credit piniko]
Rear connector

GTX560 ti: 7.4" / 188mm - Non-reference
Palit: 3 models
Side connector

GTX550 ti: 7.28" / 185mm - Non-reference
Galaxy: 55NGH8HX4NXK
Rear connector
OR
7.4" / 188mm Palit: GTX 550 w/ side connector



AMD

6990: 12.2" / 310mm [12"/305mm without counting DVI length] [credit Tony Ou]
Gigabyte: GV-R699D5-4GD-B
Side connector

6970: 10.7" / 272mm
Diamond: 6970PE52G
Side connector

6950: 9.65" / 245mm - Non-reference [credit Dark79]
MSI: R6950 Twin Frozr II
Side connector

6870: 8.66" / 220mm - Non-reference [credit Tute]
XFX: HD-687A-ZHFC
Side connector

6850: 8.54" / 217mm - Non-reference
MSI: R6850 Cyclone PE
Side connector

6770: 7.18" / 182mm - Non-reference [credit Jen]
PowerColor: Powercolor 6770
Rear connector


Notes
The length of a mini-ITX motherboard is 6.7" / 170mm
uATX motherboards vary in length, but the length is less than or equal to 9.6" / 244mm

Galaxy is named KFA2 in Europe
Gainward (Euro company) is owned by Palit and shares the same PCBs much of the time
 
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I like :)

Couple suggestions? Probably easier to just include all of the cards you get measurements for, that way if someone has that card, they won't have to guess if it's been measured (and is longer) or not (and isn't on the list). Also, may want to keep measurements in millimeters as it's more exact (the US will eventually figure this out... hopefully... :D)
 
Machupo said:
I like :)

Couple suggestions? Probably easier to just include all of the cards you get measurements for, that way if someone has that card, they won't have to guess if it's been measured (and is longer) or not (and isn't on the list). Also, may want to keep measurements in millimeters as it's more exact (the US will eventually figure this out... hopefully... :D)
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Added mm to the post.

Regarding sharing the spreadsheet, do you have advice on how to best do this? I am also not sure if it would be THAT helpful because it's far from comprehensive. Of the 581 GPU models on NewEgg, I have measurements from 237 of them; less than half and NewEgg certainly doesn't stock every card on the market, but I'd gladly offer it, if I knew of a good way to do it.
 
oh wow, you've already got quite a few of the measurements -- I thought this was just going to start as a list here (and as people measured their cards, they would be added).

Maybe a link to a hosted/datestamped (or version #'d) excel file? Alternately, just adding them in the categories here (and the unmeasured ones on a "hit list" / "to do list")?

Again, thanks for doing this.
 
What about listing where the power connectors are, rear or side.
 
Yes - please do list the power connector orientations Up or Back

FYI the Asus GTX560ti is 245mm (plus a layer of paint or two!)
Just squeezed 2 of them into 2 Lian Li Q11's - they do fit and connectors are UP/Top.

And - if i 'could' add a difficulty rating...per case? - .the GTX460 Twin Frozer which is about 240mm with REAR/back Power connectors (has 2~3mm spare in a Q11 which is 245mm inner width) i would rate 8 or 9/10 (meaning great/easy to fit)

The Asus 560 Direct Cu i mentioned above is however another case indeed, One post with the same card (with pics of card) said no for a Lian Li Q11, and he RMA'd it.
Reason is that it takes lots more patience and 'finesse'....lol
E.g its difficulty rating is 4~5/10 - but jumps to 6/10 easy once one knows the procedure.
FYI - for the Q11 it must be installed with no cooler or H50/70 - actually with the second build i put it in first! It does literally squeeze in,
DVI ports located and rear against the Q11 back and i simply did the MoBo then slid/dropped it into the PCIe slot.

But back to the OP's list - lengths in mm is great and with power orientation would be immensely helpful. Thanks for the info so far. :)
 
The GTX460 you mention, the PCB is almost 1.5 inches shorter than the HSF is, so the rear end PCIe plugs aren't a detriment :p
 
So looking back at the links I have for AMD, most of the cards look like reference models to me. Am I mistaken?
I listed these cards because of Newegg's posted measurements, but I don't know if I trust them. Can anyone comment on which models are poorly measured reference models and which are actually shorter.
I say "poorly" because NewEgg lists measurements that are different from what the manufacturer posts; which makes me think that Newegg takes their own measurements.
 
It also depends on what exactly they are measuring. Some cards have been measured by their pcb board only and some have been measured overall length from the part where you anchor it on the back of the case all the way to the last piece of the plastic housing at the other end (tip to tip). Personally I want to know its overall length from tip to tip. Total maximum length.
 
The MSI R6950 Frozr II OC fits in a SG05 without modding and has the bonus of being very overclockable and still very quiet. Supposedly you can use RBE to unlock the shaders, but I didn't try it with mine as it's a non-reference card and doesn't have the BIOS switch.

I don't know the exact length, but it's not the 275mm that's listed on MSI's site. I believe it's more like 255mm which puts it at a hair over 10".
 
Great find Dark79!

That 6950 is sweet. The twin Frozr's are amazing heatsinks and it's nice that it's shorter than the 6870s on the market (or at least not much longer, depending on the accuracy of NewEgg's posted data).
 
jamaicanpi, the Radeon HD 6990's length should be 12" or 12.2" including the DVI connector
 
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Now if only the twin frozr ii can have it's shaders unlocked...it would be perfect! I know the Frozr iii offically can by MSI..but I haven't read anything regarding the frozr ii...gotta get reading!
 
Dont' mod it...alot of boards (not exactly this) have broken down after ~1-2 months of usage after they were modded.
 
ithanium2 said:
Dont' mod it...alot of boards (not exactly this) have broken down after ~1-2 months of usage after they were modded.
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isn't that because they flashed a 6970 bios on (which ups the voltage, clock speed, mem speed) instead of just unlocking the shaders?
 
Daemos said:
Now if only the twin frozr ii can have it's shaders unlocked...it would be perfect! I know the Frozr iii offically can by MSI..but I haven't read anything regarding the frozr ii...gotta get reading!
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The Frozr III cant be unlocked. An MSI rep let that story out without verifying and later retracted it. I'll have to find that link later. Maybe the first rev of the card could but none of the current ones do. Unfortunately that misinformation is still getting around.

From what I understand the Frozr II CAN be unlocked. But without a BIOS switch it's risky. The 4fps boost isnt worth the chance of a brick. Overlocking to 6970 speeds (which it can do easily) is much better improvement.

EDIT:

Found the link: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18278371

Looks like someone figured out how to unlock it on page 3, but there aren't a whole lot of confirmations. Wow, that situation is a huge mess. I think I'll stick with my Frozr II. Plus the Frozr III won't fit in an SG05 due to the added shroud.
 
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piniko said:
Zotac also have 9" GTX570 (but it looks ugly for me)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500200

just my 2 cents
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There's also a non-AMP version with the same profile and cooler.

Also, Galaxy are known in Europe as KFA2 and sell that very card with the KFA2 sticker on it. So if you're in Europe and looking for the card, that's how you can find it.

I'm getting an itch to upgrade, think i'll go for the EVGA HD SC as it's going to be the fastest card you can get in a Sugo SG06.
 
jamaicanpi said:
Great find Dark79!

That 6950 is sweet. The twin Frozr's are amazing heatsinks and it's nice that it's shorter than the 6870s on the market (or at least not much longer, depending on the accuracy of NewEgg's posted data).
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Newegg is definitely wrong. I'm pretty sure the card is not less than 10 inches. The PCB might be that short, but the heatsink stretches over that. Otherwise I wouldn't have had such a hard time getting it to fit :p

I have a 3870 that's 9.5" and the Frozr II is at least .5" longer if not more. I'll have to find a tape measure and verifiy, but I think it's safe to ignore Newegg's listed sizes on this card.
 
Dark79 said:
Newegg is definitely wrong. I'm pretty sure the card is not less than 10 inches. The PCB might be that short, but the heatsink stretches over that. Otherwise I wouldn't have had such a hard time getting it to fit :p

I have a 3870 that's 9.5" and the Frozr II is at least .5" longer if not more. I'll have to find a tape measure and verifiy, but I think it's safe to ignore Newegg's listed sizes on this card.
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So you've put the Frozr II in a SG05? If that's the case I know what video card I'm getting :)
 
Daemos said:
So you've put the Frozr II in a SG05? If that's the case I know what video card I'm getting :)
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Just make sure you put the card in BEFORE you put in anything else - including the motherboard. It's the only way you can get it in there. The tricky part was getting the bottom motherboard screws on with the video card in there haha. It'll probably be easier if you have someone to help hold the card up while you slide the motherboard under it and put the screws in, but I didn't have any help :D

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I got a MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II in my SG05, wasn't a problem to fit the card at all.
Just make sure you connect the power cables before you enter the card :)

I installed the gfx card as the last component.
 
Anyone tried one of the GTX580s in an SG05/06? I make a total depth of 10.5" so was wondering how tight it is.
 
You need to dremel away a portion of the inside front metal cage. I've done this with both a reference GTX570 & GTX580. Also a reference HD6950 2GB, with is less than 0.1" longer than the other two.
 
Yeah that's what I have, was just wondering if the GTX580 will go without cutting.

Guess not. :p

I'm happy with my SC'd GTX570 though.
 
Unless your screen goes beyond 1080p I guess you can't ask for more.... maybe a 580 to be able to crank 16xCSAA on everything?
 
Ixtli said:
I got a MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II in my SG05, wasn't a problem to fit the card at all.
Just make sure you connect the power cables before you enter the card :)

I installed the gfx card as the last component.
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In this very moment I was thinking EXACTLY what you said about plugging the connectors before inserting the card.

That's because I measured ~260mm free length in my SG05 and 560 Ti Twin Frozr plus the connector plus some room for the cable gives a total length of ~258mm (from MSI and molex specifications).

Then I googled sg05 "twin frozr" and here I am, with peace of mind now because I know that it will fit. :)
 
What is the relation between Palit Gainward and Point of View? They all seem to have short version of GTX 560 Ti and non Ti. I have found that Point of View just recently and I am very much considering to change from HD5750 for BF3 and whatever might come after that. I dont know if it makes much difference.
The Radeon was 450 credits.
GeForce GTX 560 Ti PoV 1GB is 740 credits.
 
would it be possible to include GPU widths as well?

kinda interested if any of the gainward phantom series can fit in a sugo 05/06
 
Skott said:
The ZNFC model is basically the same thing but it comes with a plastic shroud cover and XFX says that one is 8.5 inches so that sounds about right.
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really? it looks like its about the same size as the galaxy 550 ti, and it's only 7.3 inches
 
guoinc said:
really? it looks like its about the same size as the galaxy 550 ti, and it's only 7.3 inches
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Do you have a pic showing them side by side? I couldn't find a review of it myself with detailed specs. XFX has a few similar models in this category on their website and the difference seems to be the cooling fans and such but the overall pcb board lengths seem to be the same so I'm guessing its 8.5 inches like the others. I could be wrong but I doubt its more than 8.5 inches. What are you wanting to put it into?
 
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