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Games 'Permit' Virtual War Crimes

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A recent study has human rights groups up in arms over virtual war crimes. Video games were targeted by these groups since no other form of entertainment (books, television or movies) have ever depicted scenes involving violence and war crimes. :rolleyes:

The study was carried out by two Swiss human rights organisations - Trial and Pro Juventute. Staff played the games in the presence of lawyers skilled in the interpretation of humanitarian laws. "The practically complete absence of rules or sanctions is... astonishing," said the study.
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THIS JUST IN: 99% of video games do not adhere to the laws of man or nature!
 
With all the real problems in this world, this is what these guys choose to waste their time on? No wonder nothing ever gets solved on this planet...
 
Hello?? There's reality - and virtual. One is real, one isn't. Think about it......then go away.:rolleyes:
 
Cry me an effin river...

I’m sure the dems would be all over this if they weren’t so busy trying to cover up the climategate scandal.
 
In other news, we will have a book burning for any books that show one how to break the law, or discuss breaking the law.
 
Actually, they claim to have studied video games because no other medium provides the interactivity of games.
 
"Thus," said the report, "the line between the virtual and real experience becomes blurred and the game becomes a simulation of real-life situations on the battlefield."

What? You mean these people could not tell the difference that they were playing a video game, vs out in a real world conflict?
 
Good article from the BBC. Presents both sides clearly and the headline gets pretty well refuted by the end.

  1. Games were chosen because of their level of interactivity
  2. Many (but not all) games allowed actions that would violate international law if real without consequence
  3. Games are treated differently than other forms of media for some reason
  4. There is room for real-world rules to make it into games, but that should be secondary to gameplay
  5. There is no evidence that gamers are desensitized to real-world violence
 
This just in, most video games are violent and in no way reflect the real world, almost as if they were a surrogate for the real world so people could take out their aggression without killing other people.


When I have a bad day at work I usually go home and play GTA or Prototype...
 
"See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" - Best learning development plan for humans right there. Please expand my mind by presenting a broad spectrum of viewpoints and experiences and teach me to be a moral person, rather than just scooping up everything in the name of protective censorship. Presenting world views as a generalized bright and cheery atmosphere with lots of rainbow stickers on everything.
 
srangara said:
Good article from the BBC. Presents both sides clearly and the headline gets pretty well refuted by the end.

  1. Games were chosen because of their level of interactivity
  2. Many (but not all) games allowed actions that would violate international law if real without consequence
  3. Games are treated differently than other forms of media for some reason
  4. There is room for real-world rules to make it into games, but that should be secondary to gameplay
  5. There is no evidence that gamers are desensitized to real-world violence
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@ #6 - I do believe it was found that people who often played violent games were in fact more sensitized to real world violence than the average person. This was found through PTSD research.

But for the life of me I can't find a link for similar studies in google. Too swamped with lame ass-questions and propositions posed by anti-violent gaming proponents.
 
Wow. If you can be charged for committing the crime virtually, logically you might as well do it for real, yeah?
 
A terrorist doen't give a shit about "War Crimes". He or she is not fighting a declared war and has no remorse about sliting your throat, removing your head or throwing you back into your burning house when you come running out.

In MW2 the airport scene is brutal, it is the plan what starts the ball rolling. It is a terroist act not an act of war. I don't know if the resulting conflict between Russia and the US is a declared war, but It has now become an act of survival and when you switch to survival mode anything goes. There will be collateral damage, you try to protect the sheep and keep in minimal, but it happens.

Get you heads out of the sand my pacifist little Swiss friends. The world is not all flowers and rainbows. I for one will never forget 9-11.

If this story line were written in a book, or made into a movie instead of a video game whould there be the same reaction?
 
Yep. Young boys who play violent video games, are going to be violent....

or....

they were violent in the first place.

And what about the millions of other people who play these games?
 
As srangara said, a well balanced article unlike the thread title.

Mr Rossignol said there was plenty of evidence that gaming violence is "fully processed" as fantasy by gamers. Studies of soldiers on the front line in Iraq showed that being a gamer did not desensitise them to what they witnessed.

He added: "Perhaps what this research demonstrates is that the researchers misunderstand what games are, and how they are treated, intellectually, by the people who play them."
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Steve said:
A recent study has human rights groups up in arms over virtual war crimes. Video games were targeted by these groups since no other form of entertainment (books, television or movies) have ever depicted scenes involving violence and war crimes. :rolleyes:
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I think it's educational in some respects, if it was not for Medal of Honour, or Call of Duty, teens of the current generation wouldn't know what the beach landings or the atrocities of war in general were/are all about, since school history lessons are trying to dodge the matter these days (Germany would like us to anyway).

So heaven forbid I experience third hand what war is about, but jacking cars and beating the crap out of someone with a crow bar for the heck of it, is fine?
 
Guys guys these are the Swiss people. They live in a Socialistic paradise where they marginalize Communism and have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. Let's not forget, it's also the most expensive country in the world.
 
Enduring_Warrior said:
Guys guys these are the Swiss people. They live in a Socialistic paradise where they marginalize Communism and have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. Let's not forget, it's also the most expensive country in the world.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
http://www.aneki.com/expensive.html
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question66935.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...expensive_countries_in_the_pg2_pg2.html?cat=9

You might want to do a little fact checking before you spout more outright lies.
 
I think more war crimes issues raised in gaming would be great actually. It would add a level of realism and stress that combat games are still missing to this day. Some sense of "If I shoot that civvy, I could lose my freedom if I get caught" kinda thing would just make it more intense.

Obviously, games like Army of Two arn't meant to go that deep, and the swiss panels missed that point, but the general idea of what they're saying could really actually work out for many of the more realistic FPS games in added depth and realism for the gamer to enjoy.
 
Enduring_Warrior said:
Guys guys these are the Swiss people. They live in a Socialistic paradise where they marginalize Communism and have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. Let's not forget, it's also the most expensive country in the world.
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It's also the country with lowest poverty rate, you have to REALLY want to live on the streets to end up on them, unlike here where you can be laid off, unable to find work that paid as well, lose your home and everything else and end up on the streets. Go figure. They're doing something right.
 
moshpit said:
It's also the country with lowest poverty rate, you have to REALLY want to live on the streets to end up on them, unlike here where you can be laid off, unable to find work that paid as well, lose your home and everything else and end up on the streets. Go figure. They're doing something right.
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That's some pure comedic gold right there! :p Not sure what it has to do with war crimes in video games, but hilarious nonetheless.
 
Ibanezfoo said:
That's some pure comedic gold right there! :p Not sure what it has to do with war crimes in video games, but hilarious nonetheless.
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Do you mind expounding on what you are trying to imply? I'm curious if you have any actual knowledge on the subject or if you are simply spouting nationalistic memes, like many uninformed Americans tend to do.
 
Flexion said:
LMFAO!!!

Also virtual frogs get ran over in Frogger 3D if you're not careful. Oh the horror!!! Someone call the ASPCA!!!
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I'm still waiting for a midnight PETA raid for all the dogs I killed playing Dragon Age.
 
Wait let's look at the flip side to this argument. So if I rack up dollars in NFS shift or any other driving game I should get taxed too? By who? The EA government? What I used a trainer and got big Cha-Ching? Have I counterfeited e-dollars?

I think they missed the word "Game" in video game. hehehe... :D
 
I killed a lot of people in MW2 in that airport scene, you know what went through my mind the whole time?

It really isn't that entertaining to shoot civilians, can we get back to shooting ruskies yet?


But really, I thought it felt strange to play through that. It makes people think what has to go through those peoples minds when they do things like that.

When we don't challenge our minds with these things we become complacent. It's for the better.

It keeps people from suffering delusions that these kinds of things don't occur.
 
moshpit said:
It's also the country with lowest poverty rate, you have to REALLY want to live on the streets to end up on them, unlike here where you can be laid off, unable to find work that paid as well, lose your home and everything else and end up on the streets. Go figure. They're doing something right.
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Yes, that's why they have to do something wrong to compensate, otherwise they wouldn't be human wouldn't them? When you can't find real problems to solve you invent your own.In my opinion that's the reason why there are so many suicides on the first place.

Thanks for finishing closing my point.
 
The article title should have been, "Human Rights Organizations too Stupid to Distinguish Fiction from Reality."
 
That's right!
Get those kids off their game consoles and get them out in the real world
where the can commit REAL war crimes!

Kids don't get enough exercise. Kudos to the Swiss for pointing out the error
of our ways!

:p
 
Enduring_Warrior said:
Yes, that's why they have to do something wrong to compensate, otherwise they wouldn't be human wouldn't them? When you can't find real problems to solve you invent your own.In my opinion that's the reason why there are so many suicides on the first place.

Thanks for finishing closing my point.
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You are literally saying that their lives and society are so perfect that they invent problems just to have them. And you say it like it proves you right somehow, hahahaha.
 
What would really be badass would be gettin' all COD MW2 on some Second Life thing. HAHAHA... That would cause some real trauma. Can you imagine Second Life with a defense budget? :D
 
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