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Galaxy Note 5

mi7chy said:
...but a Note competitor it's not.
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...says the Galaxy Note Fanboi.. well, time will tell. I will be sure to quote this in October, or whenever the details are released, and we will see just how far LG has come. If the specs are holding true, it most certainly WILL be a competitor to the "Note Throne", and will likely surpass the Note 5 in just about every conceivable way (minus the sealed back, but lets be frank... at least the LG will have upgradable memory and removable battery, which is INFINITELY better).
 
What qualcomm actually said is:
Devices based on Snapdragon 820 are expected to be available in 1H 2016. Qualcomm
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So people can still dream about them exceeding expectations...
 
lloose said:
We'll see. The phone is too close to the s6 in specs and hardware for that to make any sense.
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It last for 8.5 hours with 7.5 hours of screen on time? And only 24% of total battery usage was by the screen? Doesn't sound like normal usage. I'll wait until actual reviewers get it in hand before passing judgement. People were saying the GS6 has amazing battery life based on that one GSM review, but we all saw how that really turned out.
 
S6/Edge gets about 4hrs and half of sot
S6 active gets about 6~6.5 hrs with 3500 mah

how does note 5 get 7.5hrs with 3000 mah
 
PeeWeePee said:
S6/Edge gets about 4hrs and half of sot
S6 active gets about 6~7 hrs with 3500 mah

how does note 5 get 7.5hrs with 3000 mah
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It said the screen was only 24% of battery usage, with 7.5 hours SOT and ~8.5 hours total. So the screen was most likely just a black background for most of the time.
 
xIronCrossx said:
It said the screen was only 24% of battery usage, with 7.5 hours SOT and ~8.5 hours total. So the screen was most likely just a black background for most of the time.
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The battery readout screen in Lollipop is basically worthless. It is one of the things genuinely broken by design even in AOSP or Google Nexus factory images.
 
PeeWeePee said:
S6/Edge gets about 4hrs and half of sot
S6 active gets about 6~6.5 hrs with 3500 mah

how does note 5 get 7.5hrs with 3000 mah
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The same way people get 10 hours of sot on their iPhone 6.
The same way people get 8 hours of sot on their gs6.

...they don't. At least not with regular usage.
 
xIronCrossx said:
It said the screen was only 24% of battery usage, with 7.5 hours SOT and ~8.5 hours total. So the screen was most likely just a black background for most of the time.
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even with heavy software optimization, i don't think note 5 will have anymore than 5.5 hrs of SOT
 
But we'll no doubt see a thread from our favorite poster here in the smartphone subforum who will put his phone into power saving mode, tap the screen once every few hours, gloat about how his phone lasted a whopping 4 days on a charge, the inevitably try to use that data comparing it to and iPhone 6.
 
PeeWeePee said:
even with heavy software optimization, i don't think note 5 will have anymore than 5.5 hrs of SOT
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Software optimization? You do realize this thread is about a Samsung product right? The same company who still pushes arguably the heaviest skin on even their lowest end phones.
 
PeeWeePee said:
to txsizzler
G4 Pro won't have Snapdragon 820 if it's coming this yr...
and looks like 820 might be in trouble already
http://wccftech.com/mongoose-soc-from-samsung-shows-dominating-benchmark-results/
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The G4 Pro is supposed to be announced in October (3rd qtr). I never said anything about it going to be released this year. I would suspect a 1st or 2nd qtr 2016 release.

As far as your link goes, why are you comparing an SoC that has yet to be released, when this topic is about the Note 5 with its current processor? Especially from a site that is notoriously wrong about their "leaks". The G4 Pro with an SD820 should run pretty well with the current Samsung offering, while the Pro could potentially stomp the Note 5 in other areas (camera, storage, battery, etc).
 
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lloose said:
But we'll no doubt see a thread from our favorite poster here in the smartphone subforum who will put his phone into power saving mode, tap the screen once every few hours, gloat about how his phone lasted a whopping 4 days on a charge, the inevitably try to use that data comparing it to and iPhone 6.
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I can sympathize. I'd be upset too if I was stuck with an iPhone especially knowing the Exynos 7420 in "I still whoop iPhone" power saving mode is faster than A8 full speed. To think Samsung could've chosen any lower range but they wanted to add insult to injury. Knew it was a dumb move for Apple to switch away from Samsung fab to TSMC out of spite. Explains the odd A8 tri-core like the Snapdragon 808 because of thermal issues. :D

Going to swing by Best Buy to check out the real deal in person.
 
txsizzler said:
The G4 Pro is supposed to be announced in October (3rd qtr). I never said anything about it going to be released this year. I would suspect a 1st or 2nd qtr 2016 release.

As far as your link goes, why are you comparing an SoC that has yet to be released, when this topic is about the Note 5 with its current processor? Especially from a site that is notoriously wrong about their "leaks". The G4 Pro with an SD820 should run pretty well with the current Samsung offering, while the Pro could potentially stomp the Note 5 in other areas (camera, storage, battery, etc).
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If it's announced in October, it'll ship in the fall. Can't imagine LG willingly sacrificing a shot at holiday sales if the phone is effectively finished, and the company has lately kept the lead time to weeks, not months. This doesn't mean that it will be announced in the fall, though. I could entirely see LG waiting until early next year (say, Mobile World Congress in February) to launch the G4 Pro with a Snapdragon 820 inside.

Right now, though? The Note 5 is basically Android's signature big phone for late 2015, for better or for worse.
 
mi7chy said:
I can sympathize. I'd be upset too if I was stuck with an iPhone especially knowing the Exynos 7420 in "I still whoop iPhone" power saving mode is faster than A8 full speed. To think Samsung could've chosen any lower range but they wanted to add insult to injury. Knew it was a dumb move for Apple to switch away from Samsung fab to TSMC out of spite. Explains the odd A8 tri-core like the Snapdragon 808 because of thermal issues. :D

Going to swing by Best Buy to check out the real deal in person.
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I'm sure Apple is crying with the knowledge that it shipped the A8 seven months ahead of the Exynos 7420 and helped kill Samsung's high-end phone sales.

Look, the 7420 is a great chip, but specs don't always translate to real-world performance advantages... and certainly not commercial success. Plus, this argument is going to be moot in a month, when the iPhone 6S is running an A9 chip that probably negates the Exynos' advantage.
 
Looks like Note 5 is 32gb only and black only here in Canada.

I'll have to think things over if I want this or not. Based on the pricing of the 64gb S6 Edge+ I'm not sure I want to pay the extra for 32gb more Storage anyhow. The prices for these phones are reminding me how absolutely shit the Canadian dollar is this year compared to last...
 
Canon said:
Looks like Note 5 is 32gb only and black only here in Canada.

I'll have to think things over if I want this or not. Based on the pricing of the 64gb S6 Edge+ I'm not sure I want to pay the extra for 32gb more Storage anyhow. The prices for these phones are reminding me how absolutely shit the Canadian dollar is this year compared to last...
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At least you can buy it. :) as Samsung in its infinite wisdom declared, that Europe won't get Note 5, and we only getting Edge+ at prices very close to IPhone 6 Plus. And for my budget that's ridiculous price... Wish though, they would make regular s6 +, edge screens are too pricey gimmicks IMO.

As propably Note 4 will share the same fate as other last gen phones - No upgrades or very delayed ones to new versions of software, guess I'll either be picking Moto Style or G4 for my phablet, as my contract ends this autumn.
 
I haven't used an upgrade through my carrier in probably a decade. I have never owned a Samsung smartphone. I had seen the Note 5 was coming out, and I got excited. I need a new phone. Ive been using a Sony Xperia Z Ultra for over a year. Great phablet, but I'm ready to go to something with a 5.5-6.0 screen. I thought I might get the Note 5. I saw some of the standard features missing this time and it brought me back to reality. I'll be waiting on the new Nexus or maybe try to pick up a used LG G4.

I absolutely despise hardware buttons on the Samsung phones any how. And the damn Samsung Android skin sickens me. All that and I still got hyped for the Note 5 for a moment.
 
Went to Best Buy to check out the Note 5 ( currently have a Nexus 6, I'm very happy with ).


- Build quality and design is really top notch. Very good looking phone. And felt surprisingly light in the hand, looking at it all metal design, looks heavy, but pick it up and it's lightweight, in a good way.

- Screen / Display was jaw dropping good. I'm a fan of AMOLED and the Note 5's display is wicked awesome, just the best. Makes my Nexus 6 AMOLED look sad and with dirty whites, and less punch.

- I hate Touchwizz, but this version doesn't seem as bad as I thought. My last Galaxy phone I owned was an S4, and I loathed Touchwiz on that phone, but there also wasn't root on that one, so was stuck on a stock phone :(. My fav Samsung phone I owned, was my old ATT Note 2 that was rooted with Custom TW ROM, and I was very happy with Touchwizz then, but the ROM's made it much better.

- I walked away more impressed with the Note 5 than expected. But I could only buy one that could be rooted and allow custom ROM's. Which sadly seems ATT stopped allowing that starting Witt the S4.

- Also interested in reading true real users opinion on battery life. If its doing at least 6h Screen On time, I may consider it. But if it's less, no way.
 
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Ok, all this Note 5 outrage has made me really sad. I've had my S4 for a bit over 2 years and was really looking forward to getting a Note 5 as an upgrade. I almost bit on a Note 4 when my contract expired a few months ago because I recently broke my S4. But since my buddy had a spare S3, that's what's tiding me over for now. Maybe I should have gone with the Note 4 though as the bonus for the subsidized phones at Verizon seems to gone by the wayside recently.

Like almost everyone out there that has read about the specs of the Note 5, I really do not like the non-removable battery and the no micro sd slot aspects. If I'm to go with a Note 4 instead, should I wait until the Note 5 is actually out because the Note 4 will be discounted at that point? I looked at some reviews of other android phablets like the G4 and the Nexus 6, but it seems like Note 4 is currently king. My wife is going to go from her Note 2 to the Iphone 6S+ when it's released.

I'm sticking with Android so I want to be with the undisputed king. Having a sealed body really concerns me. When my S4 stopped holding as much of a charge as it did when I first purchased it, I bought a cheap charger and two batteries on Amazon for $20. Now I won't have that option.
 
mi7chy said:
Official battery tests starting to trickle in. This one from Phone Arena focuses on web usage at 200-nit brightness shows 9h 11m for Note 5 and 6h 32m for iPhone 6+ for comparison.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-Note5-battery-life-benchmark-Outperforms-the-Note-4-despite-smaller-battery_id72735
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Those battery results are sort of meaningless. Let's see real world usage, and what apps people are running, etc...

Per that graph, it says the Nexus 6 is better on battery than the iPhone 6 Plus. Uh, no. I've owned both, and the 6 Plus was a battery champion, much better than my current Nexus 6. Even tweaked with a great ROM + Kernel, my Nexus 6 doesn't come close to my iPhone 6 Plus for battery.
 
So I was right about the Note 5 dropping the IR blaster.

Fuck Samsung now. They're killing the key features (removable battery, SD card support, IR blaster, cutting edge features like USB C, etc.) that made them successful in the first place. I can deal with some of those, but taking all of it makes it a cumulative "no." I could deal with the lack of SD card if 64GBs was their minimum storage option. I'd imagine all that pretty 4K video and hi res pic taking will fill that up the 25ish usable GBs quick. What makes it even more annoying is that there are non-US dual-SIM variants getting SD card support. :rolleyes:

Doesn't make any sense whatsoever to do that, other than them saving a few cents per phone. GL going toe to toe with Apple, Samsung. I see much failure in your near future. I'll take the new Moto X over this garbage..
 
Zorachus said:
Those battery results are sort of meaningless. Let's see real world usage, and what apps people are running, etc...

Per that graph, it says the Nexus 6 is better on battery than the iPhone 6 Plus. Uh, no. I've owned both, and the 6 Plus was a battery champion, much better than my current Nexus 6. Even tweaked with a great ROM + Kernel, my Nexus 6 doesn't come close to my iPhone 6 Plus for battery.
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ROFL... And that particular test? Can PhoneArena be any more biased?
 
T4rd said:
So I was right about the Note 5 dropping the IR blaster.

Fuck Samsung now. They're killing the key features (removable battery, SD card support, IR blaster, cutting edge features like USB C, etc.) that made them successful in the first place. I can deal with some of those, but taking all of it makes it a cumulative "no." I could deal with the lack of SD card if 64GBs was their minimum storage option. I'd imagine all that pretty 4K video and hi res pic taking will fill that up the 25ish usable GBs quick. What makes it even more annoying is that there are non-US dual-SIM variants getting SD card support. :rolleyes:

Doesn't make any sense whatsoever to do that, other than them saving a few cents per phone. GL going toe to toe with Apple, Samsung. I see much failure in your near future. I'll take the new Moto X over this garbage..
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It turns out that the dual-SIM Note 5 doesn't have a microSD slot. Samsung might be frosting off removable storage fans, but at least it's frosting them off equally.

This could still be a quality device, but I have seen numerous people suggest that Samsung is eliminating some of the reasons why you'd get a Note over an iPhone 6 Plus. Then again, microSD and removable batteries didn't prevent Samsung's phone shipments from taking a nosedive before, I'm not sure that they're the key to a recovery now.
 
T4rd said:
They're killing the key features (removable battery, SD card support, IR blaster, cutting edge features like USB C, etc.) that made them successful in the first place.
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but but but.................. premium feel!
 
Aurelius said:
It turns out that the dual-SIM Note 5 doesn't have a microSD slot. Samsung might be frosting off removable storage fans, but at least it's frosting them off equally.

This could still be a quality device, but I have seen numerous people suggest that Samsung is eliminating some of the reasons why you'd get a Note over an iPhone 6 Plus. Then again, microSD and removable batteries didn't prevent Samsung's phone shipments from taking a nosedive before, I'm not sure that they're the key to a recovery now.
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Nice, so is that pic in the article I linked to a complete fake then? It shows the SIM and Sim2/SD card tray on the bottom of the left side, then the pic in your article shows a single dual-SIM tray on the top of the phone. Maybe there's different dual-SIM variants..?
 
PeeWeePee said:
are you okay
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Huh ? I don't buy into all these posts and threads already proclaiming the Note 5 a battery champion, better than the iPhone 76 Plus.

I'll believe it, when real [H] users tell me that. Not some GSM Arena test.
 
Battery was never really an issue with the note and S series because it's not hard or expensive to swap batteries. Hopefully this is a huge wake up call to Samsung that they have to actually care about battery life now on their flagships.

Isheeple and Samsheeple have been around forever. The note 5 and iPhone six just made those people more vocal.
 
There's just something special about stock vanilla Android OS, compared to Touchwiz IMO. Vanilla always feels lightweight, and just so smooth and fast.

And I mean, even when the phone is six months old, with tons of apps, and other things done on that phone over the several months. Stock Android keeps it going smooth.

Whereas Touchwiz phones after like six months can feel very heavy after a long time, or sort of like an old Windows 95 machine, where over time it just gets bogged down, then laggy, and funky feeling as the phone ages.
 
When I was using the Galaxy S6 earlier this year on Verizon I was routinely able to hit around 5 hrs of screen on time. Although I did typically carry my brightness down lower then normal (I get headaches easily from bright screens). I'm sure the Note 5 can hit more then that, it probably depend's on peoples usage though.

I like the builds of Samsung phones, it's the software that just ruins it for me. Although I have such a hard time breaking away from iOS, the only Android software I find enjoyable to use and functional is stock android.
 
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