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Galaxy Note 5

HTC epic failure of this year is their last CEO being stupid by making the phone look same for three years, Qualcomm failed everyone who uses their chips, and the camera doesn't improve despite being 20MP. Lenovo's issue is that Motorola's next generation phones aren't available yet. Good thing Motorola improved its cameras significantly. Bad thing for Motorola is that the Nexuses are coming soon too. Had the new Motorola phone been on sale in April at the same pricing, Lenovo would probably have a different story. I think there's a conspiracy inside Lenovo to get rid of their own internal mobile department.
 
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I'm teetering between the Note 4/Note 5 (64gb)/Moto X Pure(64gb). I'll have to see what my subscribed reviews say about the new phones before I can upgrade in November.
 
Can't go wrong with either one of those. The top three I would buy right now are #1 Note 5 (function), #2 S6 Plus (form) and #3 Moto X Style (best bang for the buck). Too bad Snapdragon 820 isn't out in time to go into the Moto X Style.
 
Really disappointed there's no 128gb option. That AND the smaller battery AND the missing MicroSD slot is going to make it a hard sell.

Maybe reviews will make it out to have stellar battery life. I'll probably wait to see full reviews for this and the new Moto X Pure and the new iPhone before I decide anything.
 
Simply unreal to see a 64 GB max in conjunction with ripping out microSD. It's just entertainment for me at this point, since I'm not even going to be looking at Samsung devices for the foreseeable future.

Apple is now a more logical choice (128 GB 6/6+) for those who favor lots of local storage for media. How far we've fallen.
 
The strange thing is, Samsung is known for making SD Discs and storage cards, for a pretty nice affordable price.

How hard would be it for them to make a 128GB Note 5, and not be much more than the 64GB version. Not hard at all. A 128GB version should only cost like $50 more than the 64GB, and that's retail. Look at the Samsung SD cards for sale now, 64GB = $25 and 128GB = $75.

LOL, and no Note 5 in Europe until 2016 :rolleyes:

And 3,000mAh battery in a Phablet in 2015 LOL. Why not go with a 3,750mAh MAXX style battery, and make the phone a hair thicker, but give it 25% more battery life.
 
Yea Samsung really should've gone with Base of 64GB and optional 128GB
and battery life will be on par with Note 4 i guess, just about average
to Zorachus, i don't think UFS 2.0 storage on Note 5 is that cheap just yet but i see your point
 
Johnny78 said:
Why are you shocked? It's not like Samsung is the only one. Last time I checked the LG G4 and Moto X Style are rocking 3000 mah batteries.
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G4 isn't a phablet. And the Moto X Style is considerably cheaper, while being water resistant and has a microSD slot.
 
Johnny78 said:
Why are you shocked? It's not like Samsung is the only one. Last time I checked the LG G4 and Moto X Style are rocking 3000 mah batteries.
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I just can't fathom or understand the designers of smartphones, especially Phablets that markert demands good long battery life. How frigging hard would it be to throw in a 3,600mAh battery instead, a MAXX style battery like Motorola used to do. Costs wise I doubt it barely adds much that at all, and thickness wise, yes it will make the phone a hair thicker, but really not even noticeable.

Who the heck wouldn't want a battery beast powerhouse Phablet, vs, a skinny thin Phablet with mediocre battery life ?
 
Samsung site shows 128GB option. With it announced today and available next week they're probably focusing on the high quantity 32GB and 64GB models for release then introduce 128GB option later.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/all-products

Carrier pricing is all over the place with Verizon the lowest and Best Buy even lower. Will probably end up buying from Best Buy again with 10% mover's coupon.

http://www.androidcentral.com/pre-orders-galaxy-note-5-s6-edge-begin-and-you-can-place-yours-here
 
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Does the Note 5 have that new integrated chipset that Samsung has been talking about ? The one with everything on one die, like LTE +processor + ram or something ? Was supposed to be a lot more efficient on battery, plus also smoother/ faster. Is that in the Note 5 ?
 
Yeah, no. I think I'll be sticking to my Note 3 unless one of the upcoming Nexus devices are good.
 
Man... I am so disappointed in this release. I've been a long time supporter of the Samsun Galaxy Note series having owned the Note 2,3 and 4.

-removable battery was a cool feature when travelling (just pop the fresh battery in. Put the dead battery in the charger and connect to my usb charger). It's a feature I enjoy a few times a year but I guess I can live without it.

-No SD CARD option really hurts. I've been swapping a 64gb card between notes forever. With what looks to be limited availability of a 128gb version, I'm not impressed...

-I hate a glass back. My Apple iPhone 4s had one and the damn thing would slide off tables all the time. Ended up in a lifeproof case because of this... I found the glass slippery too.

-Pricing... They really screwed up here... I was able to get my Note 4 32gb (64gb model was never available from my carier) for $300 (2 year term). With currency conversion I'm estimating about $460 CAD for the 64gb model (32gb is an absolute non-starter without microsd expansion). Availability and pricing hasn't been released for Canada yet as far as I can tell. Some news stories Say US and Canada on August 21st but not a peep from Bell, Telus, Rogers...

I'm not finding any features that seem like a meaningful upgrade from my Note 4. Heck, so far no mention if the fingerprint scanner is touch or slide (that I've found anyhow). The screen seems the same, the camera seems so close you likely can't tell (like comparing note 4 to the S6 camera). Extra Ram, maybe but thats covering up excessive memory use in my eyes... My Note 4 boots with less than 1gb free memory the last I checked... The page on Samsung's site dedicated to the phone doesn't even come close to listing all the specs and features... I cant find anything except a 2.5 minute comercial from Samsung that whizzes features by at a million miles an hour. Why cant I see the on stage presentation that surely must have happenned? It's like they just don't care.

-My Note 4 took 6 months to get Android 5. Still stuck at 5.0.1... Seriously got to get a handle on this BS (Samsung and Android in General). May or may not have a vulnerable keyboard... no way to know if they majically patched that, I certainly haven't seen any update messages that address this issue... Don't get me started on the full screen S6 adds thanks to the Samsung Push service (which I ended up disabling to suppress these adds).

I've still got some time to take everything in and I'm sure details and reviews will be out soon but this is the first time I've though I may not even want to buy a new Galaxy Note device. I can't be alone...
 
Canon said:
I'm not finding any features that seem like a meaningful upgrade from my Note 4. Heck, so far no mention if the fingerprint scanner is touch or slide (that I've found anyhow). The screen seems the same, the camera seems so close you likely can't tell (like comparing note 4 to the S6 camera). Extra Ram, maybe but thats covering up excessive memory use in my eyes... My Note 4 boots with less than 1gb free memory the last I checked... The page on Samsung's site dedicated to the phone doesn't even come close to listing all the specs and features... I cant find anything except a 2.5 minute comercial from Samsung that whizzes features by at a million miles an hour. Why cant I see the on stage presentation that surely must have happenned? It's like they just don't care.
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The fingerprint reader should be touch, like on the S6. As for the presentation video, Samsung has posted it here.

I've still got some time to take everything in and I'm sure details and reviews will be out soon but this is the first time I've though I may not even want to buy a new Galaxy Note device. I can't be alone...
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You're not -- I'm seeing that in a lot of places. It's likely a fine device for at least some people, but there's a pervading sense of disappointment. Heck, even the Note 4 must have fared poorly in some areas, since Samsung isn't selling the Note 5 in Europe (at least, not right away). So much for Samsung being the champion of giant phones.
 
I caught an advertisement on Facebook for the note 5... It had comments...

It was an absolute firestorm of negative reactions... Pretty much echoes this thread. I'd be surprised if Samsung doesn't feel some pain from this. The note isn't a galaxy s phone... Guess they forgot that.

Thanks for the link btw.
 
Looking at the Note 5 Best Buy prices I think my choice rankings are:

1. Moto X Pure/Style
2. Note 4 (Noticed is $100 cheaper now than from last night)
3. Note 5
 
Other than the SoC Samsung has totally fubar'd this generation... Both the S and Note series.

Back to the drawing board.
 
Wow hot garbage. You have a fucking phone that's close to a thousand dollars OOC. A phone that OBVIOUSLY has the PCB/chassis real estate for Micro/SD and a bigger battery. You have people that want to be bleeding edge and all you offer is 1GB more of ram.

Where is the USB Type-C?

Is MicroSD a problem when you can get 90MB/s Read/Write cards?

I can't wait to see them pop open this phone and see 30% of the frame just empty gotta save da monies with the $5 dollar MicroSD bay. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
The irony of all these arguments? I looked at the tear down of a number of phones and the battery is incredibly cheap. Its like $1 -2 for 1000 mah. So we are looking at adding like $2 bucks to move from a mediocre 3000 mah to class leading 4000 mah battery. In a $700-800 phone cheaping out on $2 bucks is the kind of move I would expect from apple not Samsung. The same argument applies to the IR emitter.

I would even argue that the S6+ is basically a play by Samsung to remove the stylus from the note series further cheaping out on a flagship phone, maybe they are even looking to see if they can ditch the pen all together by seeing if people will choose curves over notes.... Well going to purchase 2 more note 4s for my family then hope Samsung changes their mind or a new better competitors springs up. Many years ago HTC was winning almost every single phone purchase in my family then they went the way of apple and such was their demise. HTC never won a single phone purchase again in my extended family after the release of the garbage that was the 4g LTE. Now Samsung Samsung seems to be heading down the same road. One wonders what on earth motivates executives to commit market suicide.

http://www.counterpointresearch.com/2q2015marketmonitor

While Samsung sits around trying to copy apple they are losing the market because apples is NOT there problem its up and coming Chinese phone makers. Copying apple will not win back customers.
 
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Small 3,000mAh is a joke for a Phablet. And still the same processor as the S6, which is a first for a Note, not to get the next gen hardware after a S, it has never kept the same processor as the S before. The Note was the flagship, trend setter, not anymore.

Samesung went easy cheap route here, basically just a larger S6 with a Pen, no 7422 processor with everything integrated into one dye, which is way more efficient, and faster smoother.

Oh well, the Huawei Nexus will trump this phone anyways, just for not having Touchjizz, and will have a larger battery.
 
Samsung should be kneeling down to the press coverage of this phone. They sure did a better job of showing the phone and comparing it to the previous generation...

I'm feeling a little less negative about it. Some stuff I saw that I really like:

-S pen clicks out to make it easier to remove
-write on screen instantly from the lock screen. I could never make that stupid double tap shit work right on my Note 4
-faster wireless charging allowing a full charge in two hours. This makes wireless charging actually useful
-The speed of operation looked extremely good. Maybe that 4gb of ram will be enough to smooth out the rough edges some reported on the s6 that has the same SOC

I might hang around for another iteration of the Note series. I really like the SAMOLED screen and S Pen...

It's hard to overlook the fact that things are being removed though. No IR blaster, no microsd, no removable battery...
 
I wonder how long it will be for people to start hating Samsung as much as they hate Apple. Same old shit, less features, more form, less function, bullshit price point...... all with a slightly better pen.
 
As amazing as the Samsung Pay sounds, this generation of flagship android phones are all faililures. (Especially with the whole fingerprint sensor security problems because Samsung couldn't wait for Google, using Samsung Pay is a huge risk.) Android M can't come soon enough. And Google needs to show everyone how a flagship should be done with the new Nexuses. Samsung needs a winning product of they want to push Samsung Pay out there; maybe the best thing to do is beg Google to license it for Android Pay, and sell whatever hardware is necessary in the cheap.
 
CHANG3D said:
As amazing as the Samsung Pay sounds, this generation of flagship android phones are all faililures. (Especially with the whole fingerprint sensor security problems because Samsung couldn't wait for Google, using Samsung Pay is a huge risk.)
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i thought issue was with old sensor on S5?
S6/Edge uses new sensor
 
Canon said:
It's hard to overlook the fact that things are being removed though. No IR blaster, no microsd, no removable battery...
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It's all about those margins. Think about all the times you read about smartphone manufacturers hardly making money on their phones.

For years everyone [who didn't know anything, many being dyed-in-the-wool iFans] was howling about the "cheap plastic" bodies of Samsung phones. Welp. People finally got that aluminum tin and glass that they wanted, and other things had to be taken out to make up for it. So they got rid of useful, functional things and replaced them with something that is neither useful or functional, and that the end-user will eventually cover up with a cheap lead-and-arsenic-laced $2 case imported from China that they find on Amazon.






This reminds me of that AnandTech article. "One of the biggest negatives about Samsung phones is that they have removable batteries and external SD cards, which prohibits making a 'real' premium unibody design like Apple has." (... a month later ...) "Hai guyz! I've accepted a high-level position at Apple doing who-knows-what!"
 
This phone is essentially dead to me.


I found the magnetic strip reader marginally interesting but as it stands this is probably the worst Android phablet right now. Sad Samsung decided to go for Fucking "feel" over premium features.
 
The finger print issue is not the sensors. It's the framework. So it applies to the newer Samsung phones as well.

And another TTL argument... Let's talk about HTC in this thread too if that makes you feel safer!
 
txsizzler said:
The latest Note 5 specs leak. According to GSMarena, this is from a very reliable source:

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_5_specs_leaked_no_microsd-news-13349.php

To summarize:
- same processor as the S6
- 4gb ram
- 32gb internal storage
- 16mp rear/5mp front cameras (not sure of the sensor)
- 5.66" screen
- No word on battery size
- NO MICRO SD CARD SUPPORT

In a nutshell, I won't downgrade from my LG G4 to this, if all this is true. Hopefully, Samsung will wow us with changes to this on the unveiling, which is to occur on AUGUST 13th (along with the S6 Edge Plus).
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Looks like GSMArena called it! The above was written August 1st. As I said then, I am just gonna stick with the amazing G4.

For all those wanting a highly upgraded Note 4 experience, check out the upcoming LG4 Pro!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-t...this-year-tips-CEO-is-that-you-G4-Pro_id71867

http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g4_pro-7305.php

To summarize:

- 5.8-inch 2560 x 1440 Quad-HD “Quantum display”
- 8-core Snapdragon 820 processor with 4GB of RAM
- 32-64GB of storage and a micro-SD slot
- 27 megapixel rear and 8 mp wide-angle front camera setup
- Android 5.1 or Android M depending on release date
- Built-in Stylus
- Huge battery

It is expected to be announced sometime during October. So much for Crapsung!!
 
I like the thought of another South Korean competitor but the stylus in LG devices have been more of a dumb stylus rather than an active digitizer so in that regard it's a downgraded experience from the Note. Other than that, the display on the G4 is one of the better LCDs and camera is competitive. Along with the spec bump mentioned the G4 Pro can more match up with the S6 Edge+ if LG improve the 2012 era design but a Note competitor it's not.
 
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G4 isn't a phablet. .
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Please.....look at these fuckers side by side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIQODdD7SNM


If anything, to the naked eye, the Note 5 looks more compact than the G4. Yes, the G4, has a slightly smaller screen (5.5 versus 5.7) but the Note 5 has a better screen to bezel ratio hence why the size difference is absolutely negligible.

Yes, maybe it's not marketed as such but if you make a large phone, calling it something else does not stop making it a large phone. A rose by any other name....
 
mi7chy said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phablet

Guess what device is listed? LG G4.
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Good call. And why do you think a "phablet" is defined as pretty much any phone with a screen size of 5.3 inches and above? It's not random. If we look back the phone which essentially created the category, the original Galaxy Note had guess what? A 5.3 inch screen.

It's funny looking back how everyone lost their shit about the original note and how gargantuan it was. Nowadays a 5.3 screen is pretty pedestrian.
 
Man, these guys are killing me...

I placed my pre-order with Rogers and the only option on the pre-order form was Note 5... No colour choices, no capacity choices...

I check on their website today and they have a page for the Note 5... No colour choices, only capacity listed is 32gb. Seriously WTF.
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...uctType=normal&productId_Detailed=NOTE5BLK&N=

I called in to find out what gives and they say they won't know until they phone is launched by the manufacturer? All I have to say is that bullshit doesn't happen with the iPhone launches. It's always clear. iPhone is available in these colours, these capacities and costs this much... Why does everything get fucked up all the time with Samsung releases?

The funny thing is the S6 Edge+ is listed with all of it's capacities (32 or 64gb only mind you)...

If they don't straighten this out, I might not end up with a note 5. No way would I have a 32GB phone with no expandable storage.
 
Canon said:
iPhone is available in these colours, these capacities and costs this much....
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You can't compare a premium superphone to a mass produced low quality one for the same reason you don't go into a five star restaurant and expect your dinner to come out instant like McD's. 2K SAMOLED, 14nm SoC, 4GB LP-DDR4, Gorilla Glass 4, aircraft grade aluminum, etc. are manufactured in limited quantities whereas all the low end components in the iPhone and spray on finish can be found on every corner in China. My silver titanium 128GB Note 5 probably won't come right away but it'll be worth the wait.
 
Samsung chips are low-cost garbage found in China, now confirmed.
 
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