![[H]ard|Forum](/styles/hardforum/xenforo/logo_dark.png){kind=logo}
I touched on this back in a feedback session with T10 in the 2H of 2019. Explained how the game needs to represent proper torque converter implementation and went on in detail about how they can fit it into their model seemlessly.
Well with a manual I might be tempted to skip shift down whereas with a sequential, I can not. However for the point of wrestling a car around a track, just how big of a difference do you think there is? Tens of milliseconds of torque interruption is all. Doesn't matter whether it's a wet auto, a flappy paddle F1/SMG style or DCT, they all shift sequential, only difference is timings. Unless your advocating for skip shifting?
However with the case of C7 Z06, the game only models one version. You can still shift the automatic manually IRL, so which version should T10 use in game?
Only thing I don't like is they offer auto in cars that only come manual and vice versa. But I get it...
likewise you can add clutch to cars that never had them....
i dont expect that to change as literally all car games do that.
There is a difference between having an aid that switches gears for you, and an actual automatic transmission model.
because it requires alot more then adding a factory color to a car. I have already went through the decrypted database for the game to know.
They dont. But being someone who actually does race in real life and has a fundamental understanding of how automatics work since i race with one it might help get it further between the goalposts then something they would try on their own. But in all reality. Its rare that circuit raced car is an automatic instead of a dual clutch or manual so youd have to have an answer to that before they would even listen to you.If Turn10 needs a random on an internet forum to explain to them why a torque converter automatic is different from an automatically shifted DCG or traditional manual then they are a lost cause.
I generally feel that they do based on my exposure to real life counterparts, at least as far as a basic physics simulation in a video game can. Certainly there are games that do it better than Forza, but I think that on this front Forza suspends disbelief enough that it is enjoyable. But I prefer racing stock vehicles in Forza rather than the homologation nonsense.
i just hope that FM8 isn't the confused mishmash of ideas that FM7 is. they really, really need to focus on the "motorsport" aspect and leave the goofy hotwheels top gear bowling shit to horizon. make single player engaging with more than just "start from the back of the pack and win in 2 or 3 laps" formula they've been going with since the very beginning.
Forza had qualifying in single player until FM5. After FM2 they moved it into Practice. Setting a time in Practice would dictate your grid starting position. They made up for it by adding a race length option, at least. I enjoy the longer races regardless since I always hated the 1-3 lap sprint mentality.
i forgot all about the practice "qualifying" they had. but yeah, what i'm saying is get back to something that resembles real motorsport with qualifying, pit stops, penalties, etc (at least in the appropriate categories.) forza motorsport still has the opportunity to fill the gap between, say, forza horizon and gran turismo sport. give players a motorsports oriented experience with uniquely customized and upgraded cars (i know gt sport has this already but it's to a very limited degree, both in terms of how cars can be modified/customized and how often they can be used in official online races) in addition to more traditional categories like gt3 and gt4.
I would actually love to see Turn 10 make a fully fledged multidiscipline licensed racing game. The game is already a base for that, they just need to go all the way. Have one game with full seasons and rules for IndyCar and WeatherTech included. Add the rest of the tracks and teams and it would be a fun game. Maybe include V8 Supercar, WEC and DTM in that mix. All these series for some reason are lacking in video game exposure outside of serious sims like iRacing. Licensing demands from some tracks has become quite an issue, though. It used to just be Japan, but now European tracks like Spa are trying to get more money.
i fully agree with you 100%. basically take what project cars 2 did so well (a variety of series with the appropriate car and track rosters with close-to-real race formats and rules) and combine it with what forza has been very good at, a realistic yet approachable physics model that works really well with gamepads and a strong multiplayer base. i don't think they should fully abandon the "street" series racing (stock or modified production cars) but it should be a very specific series of racing within the real motorsport ones. leave the crazy "the sky's the limit" humvees vs bugattis shenanigans to horizon from here on out.
You can still buy it right now, and if you own it you'll be able to play it into the foreseeable future including multiplayer. This is the issue with games built on using licensed content, though. Eventually those licenses expire. You need both the incoming revenue to justify renegotiating the licensing deals and the license holders have to want to renew them in the first place for the publisher to continue selling that game. It's a better deal to just move on to the next game. I would expect FM8 to come out some time next year.
definitely worth all of $20 for the ultimate.
No, you won't unless you purchased additional DLC. I posted details in post #504 above.
My condolences. I would have just sucked it up and spent the $10 it was going for over the past 2 months to have it digitally.
