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Discussion in 'HardForum Tech News' started by naib, May 23, 2019.
I'm sure Tencent is laughing.
I'm laughing at people who think a single accident is a deathblow.
Where are these people some of you guys keep talking about? In your heads? Some other website?
The whole thread up front is filled with them....
It seems to me like it's filled with people either laughing at yet another fuckup or defending it, I guess there was a comment or two trash talking Steam for some reason as well.
This is just another indication that they either launched way before they were ready or have no idea what they're doing.
At this point in time who the hell doesn't release a digital storefront without a cart? It has to be one of the most basic requirements for a store. How can a cart be considered a feature? If I walk into a grocery store and don't see any carts, I'm walking back out. Considering how many other digital storefronts have carts I can't imagine something so basic could be so difficult to implement. Especially considering how many years digital carts have been around and successfully implemented.
How not having something so basic, fundamental and simple as a cart for your digital storefront is not a red flag is something I'll never understand.
Hell, maybe Epic figured from the beginning the service was going to be a huge failure and decided there was no need for a cart since they figured no one would purchase more than one item.
Given the way the Epic Store conducts itself since the beginning of the "exclusives" era, as far as I'm concerned just about anything that does harm to them is in the best interest of PC gaming.
On the other hand - it's a shopping cart. I guess I have enough other things going on in my life that this doesn't bother me in the least.
It's not merely a missing shopping cart that's at issue. It's the overall level of incompetence that it conveys, compounded by the company also being polarizing and anti-consumer.
It's a games store. I guess I have enough other things going on in my life that this doesn't bother me in the least.
Welp, may as well shut down the forums. No sense in discussing any of this inconsequential stuff.
If the forums devolve into nothing but whining about EGS then sure.
There's plenty to talk about. Like new games and hardware.
It's like if you were at a restaurant and a kid was throwing a fit. You ignore it at first but if it keeps going you say something about it.
You social justice gamers are the toddlers having temper tantrums about the tiniest inconveniences that normal people give 0 fucks about. Any thread about a game on EGS gets spammed with your crying. Drowning out the interesting discussion about the actual game.
This thread has devolved into whining about a news article being posted in the news section, pretty much from the start.
The irony. Please, point to where I had a temper tantrum about this? In fact, point to anywhere in any thread I said anything about EGS. Go on, I'll wait.
The only people throwing temper tantrums have been people upset that a news article was posted in the news section. Being a forum, people discussed it.
Well luckily for companies dealing with US customers lobbyists are very deep into the pockets of politicians and no way any laws will ever be passed to prevent the selling of personal information to anyone who asks for it.
If I went into Best Buy and see no carts I...still go pick up the 1 or 2 things I want. I agree that it shouldn't be a feature when every digital storefront seems to manage to have a cart, and clearly they should have considered what would happen with their mega sale, but at worst it's worthy of a "huh, they should really have a cart" comment. Basing your purchase on the existence of a shopping cart is ridiculous, especially when - outside of a sale - there is little reason to purchase games in bulk.
Try installing mods for a native game from the Microsoft Store, and then get back to us.
It's not your game anymore, it's a new windows programming paradigm purposefully hidden off in the weeds. They don't even install things under Program Files anymore, it's buried under some hidden folder you obviously aren't supposed to touch, making hands-on disk free space management a lot harder.
Going MS Store native means giving up your "right to modify," and right to manage your own PC
At least EPIC Store doesn't treat you like a criminal. Unfortunately, it doesn't come with any of the other features Steam has, so it's a hard sell.
So, GDPR = Generator of Disastrous Reddit Publicity?
A cart is basic. A cart is simple. A cart has been implemented by almost everyone else long ago. Almost all digital storefronts launch with shopping carts.
Why are you defending the lack of one of the most basic requirements for a digital store such as this? Why aren't you questioning why a company would leave this out? Why aren't you wondering why the company considers a cart a "feature" when it's a basic requirement for every other store?
I'm a lot more than skeptical of a company which can't have such a basic and easy required item be in place at the launch of the store. I just don't understand why anyone else wouldn't be skeptical. The lack of something so simple and basic at launch throws up red flags left and right for me. If the company can't have this ready to go on launch or even have it added months later does not instill me with confidence for the long term viability of the service.
There are a lot of examples where a single accident is a deathblow. Not that this will kill Epic. But, this isn't exactly their first blunder, nor is it good for them when security is a concern. They already have an issue with consumers on that. Especially with people like me that view their partnership with Tencent as problematic and already something that should halt users from using their platform.
No, Tim Sweeney's tweets facing these issues did absolutely nothing to quell the concerns. In fact, I think it made it worse.
Defending it? No. I'm just not going crazy over it. I've had the client installed on my computer for Fortnite and, to a much lesser extent, UT4 for 1.5 years...any time I've wanted to make a purchase I've been able to do so. If I wanted to purchase BL3 right now why would I allow the existence of a cart to be the deciding factor? Do you want the game or not? Can you purchase the game or not? Can you download and play the game or not?
Can you trust a company who can't even put one of the most basic parts of a store into the store? A company which can't get something as simple and basic as that done inspires no confidence in me whatsoever. If one of the most basic items of a store isn't there, what else have they screwed up and what are they going to screw up in the future? And if something as simple as a cart is an issue for them to implement, what does that say about anything complicated or even some sort of emergency issue?
Despite what you and others are claiming, the issue isn't the cart. The issue is what the lack of the cart says about the company, its capabilities and what to expect in the future.