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E6300 owns you

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gepetto

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People are getting mad overclocks out of these. I feel bad for the suckers that paid for the 6800 and 6600 when the 6300 overclocks to the performance of these. You can't tell the difference anyway when you play games
 
So people who bought 6600 and above overclocked extremely higher then 6300 so they still win.
 
it could still be benificial to get the E6600. For one thing, to get the same clocks out of a 6300, you need to get some wicked high FSB. Not always possible. The gigabyte board seems to be the best at this, but that means getting an E6300 severly limits your MB choices.
 
gepetto said:
People are getting mad overclocks out of these. I feel bad for the suckers that paid for the 6800 and 6600 when the 6300 overclocks to the performance of these. You can't tell the difference anyway when you play games
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Please wait for the data base to fill up a little more before you make such claims? I can't speak for X6800 users but easily can for the E6600 test results seen at XS and other places.

Also missed in all if this us the added strain on the system from having to Crank the FSB that high. Without long term testing there a chance folks are killing their boards and we'll start hearing about CSSDS LOL!
 
civictyper16 said:
So people who bought 6600 and above overclocked extremely higher then 6300 so they still win.
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I dont care if you can overclock your 6600. You can't tell the difference between 80 fps and 60 fps. By the time I will need a 6600 they will be $100 cheaper anyway. So you have a bigger E-dick; that may be your goal and I hope it makes you feel good. I know that I will be playing the same games at a non-discernable rate and I have $150 more money left in my wallet. 'Nuff said.
 
E6300 owns your ass

No cussing in thread titles, please.
 
civictyper16 said:
So people who bought 6600 and above overclocked extremely higher then 6300 so they still win.
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No. Folks with E6600 didn't have to overclock the FSB as high as the E6300 users have to. Some apps like the extra 2MB of cache as well. That's why on Anand's review the 2.4GHz E6600 was faster at stock than the E6300 at a 2.56 or where ever Anand had theirs set.

Take 3.6GHz for example. E6600 with a 9 X multiplier reaches that speed at 400MHz, E6300 needs 450MHz. For 4GHz, E6300 would need to reach 500MHz FSB. That's 445MHz for the 9X of the E6600.

I want an easy 3.3 to 3.5 with mine, even if it overclocks more. I want to avoid the added heat and voltage on not only the CPU but the Motherboard's chipset as well.
 
It's funny how people who buy the lower clock cpu and say it owns when they OC it compared to a higher end just to justify their purchase. When you can just OC the higher end cpu and own the OC'd lower end cpu.
 
agreed Stupac, after i oc my x6800 to 5ghz it will completely destroy ur 6300, so dont say 6300 owns you cuz your just being dumb by saying that, and I will still have more money left over in my wallet cuz not everyone is as poor as you gepetto
 
Stupac said:
It's funny how people who buy the lower clock cpu and say it owns when they OC it compared to a higher end just to justify their purchase. When you can just OC the higher end cpu and own the OC'd lower end cpu.
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Sometime the lower end ones do. Like with Northwoods, they pretty much maxed out around 3.6Ghz on aircooling. So my 2.4C at 1200FSB pretty much owned the people who bought 3.0C or 3.2C and maxed out around the same CPU speed.

BUT with Conroe, they are overclocking like crazy, and the FSB will probably limit many people before the CPU will. So "the 6300 owns you" isn't going to be true this time around

Granted the 6300 owns AMD, or anything else. But the higher end Conroe's will probably get even higher overclocks and similar FSB's so the bandwidth advantage won't be there like it was with the 2.4C's etc.. of old.
 
I agree with Chris.

The only "owning" I see with a 6300 is in the wallet. And even then, if someone decides to spend $150 more for a 6600, fine. I think it will be worth the money considering the reports of around-4GHz OC's with the 6600's.
 
What a friggin' dumbass thread. Gheyness at it's worst. I will gladly enjoy my E6600.
 
gepetto said:
I dont care if you can overclock your 6600. You can't tell the difference between 80 fps and 60 fps. By the time I will need a 6600 they will be $100 cheaper anyway. So you have a bigger E-dick; that may be your goal and I hope it makes you feel good. I know that I will be playing the same games at a non-discernable rate and I have $150 more money left in my wallet. 'Nuff said.
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IMO.....sounds like you're just trying to justify why you bought a e6300 over a better cpu. you can't use that argument about FPS because then why didn't you just buy a 805 or 920 P-D and overclock those. You'd save even more money and still be around playable FPS. And then people have different budget's when it comes to computer parts. So to some, buying a 6800 isn't a problem and they're not looking to save the extra money by buying a 6300.

You can say you bought the best price/performance ratio cpu out right now, but to act like you and you're cpu are better than people who spend more and have the money to spend more isn't right. And to me you just come of as someone trying to justify why you didn't go with a 4mb cache cpu and arguing with anyone else who says you're wrong about the 6300. (i've done the whole justifying a purchase thing before)
 
Donnie27 said:
No. Folks with E6600 didn't have to overclock the FSB as high as the E6300 users have to. Some apps like the extra 2MB of cache as well. That's why on Anand's review the 2.4GHz E6600 was faster at stock than the E6300 at a 2.56 or where ever Anand had theirs set.

Take 3.6GHz for example. E6600 with a 9 X multiplier reaches that speed at 400MHz, E6300 needs 450MHz. For 4GHz, E6300 would need to reach 500MHz FSB. That's 445MHz for the 9X of the E6600.

I want an easy 3.3 to 3.5 with mine, even if it overclocks more. I want to avoid the added heat and voltage on not only the CPU but the Motherboard's chipset as well.
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Wrong. 6600 = 9x, 6400 = 8x, 6300 = 7x. For 4Ghz, the E6300 would neeed 572 FSB. I dont think there is any board now, and probably wont ever be many capable of that. 500fsb, which the gigabytes seem to do for the most part, requires 500fsb, but thats probably the best your going to see out of a 6300.
 
PureBooYah said:
IMO.....sounds like you're just trying to justify why you bought a e6300 over a better cpu. you can't use that argument about FPS because then why didn't you just buy a 805 or 920 P-D and overclock those. You'd save even more money and still be around playable FPS. And then people have different budget's when it comes to computer parts. So to some, buying a 6800 isn't a problem and they're not looking to save the extra money by buying a 6300.

You can say you bought the best price/performance ratio cpu out right now, but to act like you and you're cpu are better than people who spend more and have the money to spend more isn't right. And to me you just come of as someone trying to justify why you didn't go with a 4mb cache cpu and arguing with anyone else who says you're wrong about the 6300. (i've done the whole justifying a purchase thing before)
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'Nuff said.
 
Very well put PureBooYah

gepetto what is your problem thast you go around crapping all the E6600 and up threads?
 
Viper87227 said:
Wrong. 6600 = 9x, 6400 = 8x, 6300 = 7x. For 4Ghz, the E6300 would neeed 572 FSB. I dont think there is any board now, and probably wont ever be many capable of that. 500fsb, which the gigabytes seem to do for the most part, requires 500fsb, but thats probably the best your going to see out of a 6300.
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I've only seen one guy hit 500MHz FSB with a Conroe on a Gigabyte DS4 but i'm sure as the BIOS matures on the newer boards a lot of them will be capable of 450-500Mhz. The Gigabyte DS3/DS4 are nice boards but i don't think there is anything too horribly special about them over the other P965 chipset boards cause Gigabyte never has been exactly the pinacle of overclocking. I would say it's just a real good board and one of the only ones people have actually tested so far. The Abit AB9 Pro and Asus P5B Deluxe should start to get the same kind of results i'm sure.
 
Brahmzy said:
What a friggin' dumbass thread.
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Hence why I was taking a shot at the OP before, but of course a mod deletes the post instead of the thread ;), which is COMPLETE and utter flamebait.
 
yay .. a conroe user bashing other conroe users .. nice :rolleyes:

...aren't Intel users supposed to bash AMD users? :confused:

:p


[F]old|[H]ard
 
Core 2 Extreme said:
agreed Stupac, after i oc my x6800 to 5ghz it will completely destroy ur 6300, so dont say 6300 owns you cuz your just being dumb by saying that, and I will still have more money left over in my wallet cuz not everyone is as poor as you gepetto
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got ln2 or a cascade?? cause thats not happening without either of those. if you get 5ghz, ill eat my 4200+, without ketchup.

Cpt Twitchy said:
Very well put PureBooYah

gepetto what is your problem thast you go around crapping all the E6600 and up threads?
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some people go into fight or flight mode when other people can obtain things that they cant. he obviously goes into fight mode when he sees people who can easily afford a e6600 or higher, because it seems like he cant.
 
CCUABIDExORxDIE said:
got ln2 or a cascade?? cause thats not happening without either of those. if you get 5ghz, ill eat my 4200+, without ketchup.



some people go into fight or flight mode when other people can obtain things that they cant. he obviously goes into fight mode when he sees people who can easily afford a e6600 or higher, because it seems like he cant.
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mmmm sounds like a tasty chip :p Cascade would even be hard pressed to get 5gig bench stable but LN2 would do the job for sure.

Pretty sad people gotta be like that especially when a lot of us work really hard for our rigs.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Running my E6800 @ 3.47GHz

266 x 13 at 1.4vcore

1066 mem
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Why not 10x347 or 9x385? I would assume mem speed helps out some on intel with right timings.
 
Viper87227 said:
Wrong. 6600 = 9x, 6400 = 8x, 6300 = 7x. For 4Ghz, the E6300 would neeed 572 FSB. I dont think there is any board now, and probably wont ever be many capable of that. 500fsb, which the gigabytes seem to do for the most part, requires 500fsb, but thats probably the best your going to see out of a 6300.
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Yup wrong the one I meant 6400 at 8 X, so sue me?
 
Donnie27 said:
Yup wrong the one I meant 6400 at 8 X, so sue me?
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I will be seaking $10,000 in damages, plus another $5,000 for each word I had to go through the painstaking effort of typing. I hope you have a good lawyer buddy! :D
 
Viper87227 said:
I will be seaking $10,000 in damages, plus another $5,000 for each word I had to go through the painstaking effort of typing. I hope you have a good lawyer buddy! :D
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Hehehehe!
 
gepetto said:
People are getting mad overclocks out of these. I feel bad for the suckers that paid for the 6800 and 6600 when the 6300 overclocks to the performance of these. You can't tell the difference anyway when you play games
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i am this >< close to making a comment about your "no difference in gaming", but I really don't want to bring last week back into the spotlight.

Regardless, I would consider buying a 6300 at the moment moreso than a higher-end model, since I am on a budget!
 
This is good enough for me, give me a decent cooler and 4ghz shouldn't be a problem.. oh this is a e6600.

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Show me a e6300 that can do this.
 
drizzt81 said:
i am this >< close to making a comment about your "no difference in gaming", but I really don't want to bring last week back into the spotlight.

Regardless, I would consider buying a 6300 at the moment moreso than a higher-end model, since I am on a budget!
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No one's going to argue with you on that though. Many of use our computers for more than just games. Hell, that's what XBoxes are for.

This very forum went wild when the $425 3800+ went on sale for $375. I clearly remember about 20 AMD followers simi flaming 3 other AMD followers simply because the had the nerve to mention that they still thought its price was too high! Maybe I should dig thread up?
 
WesM63 said:
This is good enough for me, give me a decent cooler and 4ghz shouldn't be a problem.. oh this is a e6600.

Show me a e6300 that can do this.
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Sweet stuff Wes, sweet indeed!
 
if you hade good watercooling there how much you think you get set the bar too with he 6600? 4.5mhz ?
 
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