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does ps3 suck?

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im not a sony fan boy or nething, i own a play station 1 not 2 or 3 but i hate when people say p3 sucks, ps3 is a great console from the looks of it but the games arnt so good and people say ps3 sucks because of its games. is the hardware bad or just the games?
 
Most reliable console released since the SNES. As for it "sucking" I don't think so, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are tons of fun, the games will come that will make the system shine. Right now alot of people bitch about the console due to Sony hate bandwagon...
 
It doesnt suck, I just think it doesn't offer the whole experience for the price that was quoted on its tag.

And Sony has a problem admitting their pitfalls, hence making things worse.
 
I got an xbo360 on release day and loved it,never thought anything could be better, not the ps3.. no way!!! then i got a wii on release day.. wow!!! good and lovin it, not better than a 360 but definitely wii60 in the house! then i received a ps3 for v-day gift from my g/f... and man o man.. i play it all the time, it gets more time than the 360 does. i never would have thought the ps3 would be so good, but it is. i know it doesnt have as many stella games and what not as teh 360, but give it time and it will. the ps3 is worth gettin hands down.
 
It doesnt suck, I just think it doesn't offer the whole experience for the price that was quoted on its tag.

And Sony has a problem admitting their pitfalls, hence making things worse.

Yep... it has a very anemic line-up, and all it does is give prettier, shinier graphics to Playstation 2 games with the exact same gameplay experience. I want something new for my money, like the Wii gives, or a much more reasonable price tag that is honest about what it delivers, like the X360. Wait, how about getting a Wii60? Yeah, that sounds great! :)
 
Yep... it has a very anemic line-up, and all it does is give prettier, shinier graphics to Playstation 2 games with the exact same gameplay experience. I want something new for my money, like the Wii gives, or a much more reasonable price tag that is honest about what it delivers, like the X360. Wait, how about getting a Wii60? Yeah, that sounds great! :)

oh give me a break. You are kidding yourself if you think the wii doesnt have as much or a more anemic lineup than the PS3 does now. Hard to swallow i know.
 
Honestly I have had a lot of unbiased people say it after trying the 360 that hands down it provides the best game experience.

I'll tell you that it brought a huge smile to my face when i bought mine and i instantly had a mic hooked up and was talking smack while playing gears of war online etc.
 
I'd say that ps3 isn't worth a buy right now, but will it be a lot better in say a year? I'd say strong likelihood that it will be. Right now there are no exclusives compared to the 360 that make me want to buy a ps3 for 300 bucks more than my premium 360 (paid 299 for my premium new).

As a piece of hardware, disregarding price and game lineup, it's certainly well made and has a lot of nice horsepower. Just lacks any system buying exclusive games.
 
hardware-wise, it seems to be a much more reliable console than the 360, at least from what im hearing. games-wise the 360 has the upper hand right now, but i expect that won't be lasting for very long, not to mention that whole new "Home" thing that was just introduced.
 
i have a hard time dividing time between my 360 and PS3.

for the time being, they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

although, i can definitively say Blu-Ray > HD-DVD
 
Just pricey and doesn't have a very large game library at this time.

I totally plan on snagging a PS3 sometime down the road because I'm at least 80% sure it will eventually have the best game library if it follows the PS1/PS2 trend (and by best game library, I mean in my opinion of what games interest me of course)

I've been out of the console loop for awhile so I'm still happily catching up on the PS2 games that I missed. :)
 
The ps3 is fine hardware wise, it's just expensive to buy right now and doesn't have very many apealing titles out for it yet, I'm sure it will get better, just not sure if it will get better then the 360, but I'm going to wait awhile before purchasing eather, right now neither systems games interest me right now, happy to stay with my PCWii right now.
 
Nah, it doesn't suck at all. It is hard though when the Sony execs make so many blunders.

i think everyone can agree the system itself is stellar and it has some games coming out that people will love and even some unknowns that people are surprised to find out about. I know for one when I saw "Little Big PLanet" at GDC I was blown away and had never even heard of it before.

The price tag definitely hurts and so does Sony making themselves look bad. But as far as the system is concerned. I think it is great. Whether or not its the best out of the 3 is up to peoples opinions. But I think anyone can enjoy it.
 
Ps3 most definitely does not suck.

It's expensive and lacks the games right now but give it a year or so and it'll be mainstream.

I'm also impressed with the build quality of the console believe it or not, scratches like an iPod but never gave me problems like the 360 did, very quit and sleek looking.
 
Most reliable console released since the SNES.
Yeah, only if you ignore all the nintendo consoles inbetween.

People hate it because it is expensive and lacks games while the Xbox 360 is cheaper has a much larger library with a lot more AA titles out now, and coming out throughout this year. Games make the system, Sony doesn't have those games yet and won't even have a comparable lineup quality wise until next year.
 
oh give me a break. You are kidding yourself if you think the wii doesnt have as much or a more anemic lineup than the PS3 does now. Hard to swallow i know.

I'd disagree (wii comment).

but I also disagree that the PS3 sucks. It doesn't have enough games CURRENTLY, but it doesn't have a bleak future either. There are plenty I'm looking forward to playing and it definately is being turned on a bit more than when I first got it.
 
I remember when the 360 came out and this time in 06 people were complaining of it sucking hardcore and no games for it. History repeats.
 
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At first they bash the PS3, .... because of Home + Little Big Planet + other strong titles... I think everyone will change their mind unless they have X360 tatoo'd on their back.
 
Yeah, only if you ignore all the nintendo consoles inbetween.

The N64s controller was not reliable at all, the analog stick would wear out in a matter of months. The Gamecube was pretty sturdy I have seen the analog issue in it aswell. Now I know all controllers are capable of such issues if they have an analog but I have not seen it happen to other controllers as often as I have to both of those.
 
The N64s controller was not reliable at all, the analog stick would wear out in a matter of months. The Gamecube was pretty sturdy I have seen the analog issue in it aswell. Now I know all controllers are capable of such issues if they have an analog but I have not seen it happen to other controllers as often as I have to both of those.

Controllers are going to wear and tear, thats life. But if you are more gentle with your stuff, they will last longer. My 4 N64 controllers all are in perfect condition because I don't allow people to come over and abuse my stuff.
 
I own all 3 systems and the PS3's been getting the most play as of late. Tekken and Motorstorm. Plus I still break out Resistance here and there as I'm trying to get the hidden weapons via the 2nd playthrough. The knock on it is definitely the price, though. Still, there are lots of little things that Sony has done right. The "true" USB functionality is a feature I wish MS had.
While the 360's my favorite overall system, there really hasn't been anything I've wanted for it lately. The Oblivion expansion should remedy that soon, though.
My Wii hasn't been getting much play outside of Mario Kart 64 and Wii Sports, but my wife's supposed to pick up WiiPlay this week. I figure we'll just get sporadic time waster titles for the system until something like Mario Galaxy or Smash Bros. comes out. It was only $250 and it plays our GC titles, so even though it's not my favorite system, it's still nice to have. If I had to get rid of one, it would be the one, though.
 
The mass is like the plague. Once one people says it everyone just follows.

But if you really want to make big money you have to follow the mass.
 
I don't know that I would say it sucks, but the hardware itself certainly doesn't thrill me... my biggest hang up being BluRay. I wan't nothing to do with it. One could say that hypothetically, one is paying $200 for that BluRay drive. If PS3 had the same setup as 360, where DVD was the standard format, and a seperate BluRay drive could be had for $200 (either external or a seperate console SKU with it internal), I would be much more apt to get a $400 PS3 (or, Ideally, a 20GB, No-BR version for $300). As it stands though, between a weak lineup, and paying lots of money for something I don't want, sort of turns me off of the PS3. I love my 360, and play it when I can find the time. It is hands down my console of choice, and I don't ever see that changing.

FWIW - I am interested in HD-DVD, just not BluRay. I know maybe I am biased in that regard, but HD-DVD is more appealing to me, mainly for a cost standpoint. While I know the PS3 failing would be a bad thing for the gaming industry, I hope to hell that BluRay fails and HD-DVD wins the format war. I won't buy both.
 
What is your issue with the Blu Ray format vs the HD DVD? What does the format offer that you completely hate? Is it Sony?
 
I hope to hell that BluRay fails and HD-DVD wins the format war. I won't buy both.

I would start praying every night for this to happen. At least thats what it looks like right now. You never really know though:) Seeing as I don't really care...here is to you getting your hope.
 
What is your issue with the Blu Ray format vs the HD DVD? What does the format offer that you completely hate? Is it Sony?

I was thinking the same thing. Why do you really care? I refuse to buy any movies for either format until there's a winner, but it hasn't stopped me from Netflix'ing, though.
I see no reason to hate either one.
 
good thread topic. I have not had a console since the 1st sega and the ps3 has my full attention mainly due to the bluray but the games look sweet. sure its early so the game titles are not all there but that does not concern me, they will be.

if I get one what are the "must have" games? also, I have a 4 year old rear projection 52' and wondering how much of a difference I will see with bluray dvd's vs regular dvd's? would you say its definitely noticeable or barely?

cheers!
 
Does the PS3 suck? Well, IMO, yes and no.

Right now the price sucks. Right now the game selection *mostly* sucks. Both of which will change in the upcoming months and years. I'd personally opt for a 360 at this point in time (and I did), but it's far too early to drive nails into the PS3 coffin.
 
I don't know that I would say it sucks, but the hardware itself certainly doesn't thrill me... my biggest hang up being BluRay. I wan't nothing to do with it. One could say that hypothetically, one is paying $200 for that BluRay drive. If PS3 had the same setup as 360, where DVD was the standard format, and a seperate BluRay drive could be had for $200 (either external or a seperate console SKU with it internal), I would be much more apt to get a $400 PS3 (or, Ideally, a 20GB, No-BR version for $300). As it stands though, between a weak lineup, and paying lots of money for something I don't want, sort of turns me off of the PS3. I love my 360, and play it when I can find the time. It is hands down my console of choice, and I don't ever see that changing.

FWIW - I am interested in HD-DVD, just not BluRay. I know maybe I am biased in that regard, but HD-DVD is more appealing to me, mainly for a cost standpoint. While I know the PS3 failing would be a bad thing for the gaming industry, I hope to hell that BluRay fails and HD-DVD wins the format war. I won't buy both.


Games are being ripped on BR... with future PS3 games, I'm sure they will not fit on your standard DVD, I don't want to be swaping CD's during middle of my game. As for your format war, BR is "pwning" HD-DVD in terms of sales and how many studios are backing them up.

From your responce I can tell you are a X360 fan, you support basically everything that X360 is doing. I can't wait for X360v2 but as for the current X360 its a big POS and I will not buy one. I'd rather spend 700 bucks on a system that I know isnt gonna crash out on me. I've had my PS3 since December with 0 problems. I don't think many X360 users can say that. I know so many people that have had to deal with replacing their X360 through warrenty, what happens when thei warrenty is up and they have a flakey console... SOL and waste more money on another one?

PS3 + HDTV = FTW!!!!

haha
 
Games are being ripped on BR... with future PS3 games, I'm sure they will not fit on your standard DVD, I don't want to be swaping CD's during middle of my game. As for your format war, BR is "pwning" HD-DVD in terms of sales and how many studios are backing them up.

From your responce I can tell you are a X360 fan, you support basically everything that X360 is doing. I can't wait for X360v2 but as for the current X360 its a big POS and I will not buy one. I'd rather spend 700 bucks on a system that I know isnt gonna crash out on me. I've had my PS3 since December with 0 problems. I don't think many X360 users can say that. I know so many people that have had to deal with replacing their X360 through warrenty, what happens when thei warrenty is up and they have a flakey console... SOL and waste more money on another one?

PS3 + HDTV = FTW!!!!

haha

well i wouldnt say the 360 is POS, I have a release day 360 with zero problems, though some do have problems, like my brother-in-law who is on his 3rd 360 so far.. really i think it comes down to how the 360 is being taken care of and where it is stored when in use. I have the hd-dvd drive for the 360 too (17 HD-dvd movies) and zero problems, but I have 5 blu-ray movies and some of them pause for 10 secs or so during movie playback on the ps3... really annoying, so that is an issue I have with my ps3.
 
Yeah, I've had the 360 since launch with no issues, too. I did have HDMI output issues for the PS3, though.
One thing that irks me a little about the PS3 are the load times. Motorstorm is a killer game, but MAN are the load times long. When swapping vehicles before a race, I usually just guess based on the name because I don't feel like waiting for the images to load. It reminds me of the Sega CD.
I like my PS3, but it's not perfect even if you don't care about the pricing.
 
I agree with some of Baker's statement that the 360 is a piece of shit when it comes to reliability because I do love my 360 but I'm on my 3rd one and thats just ridiculous and I think even the 360!!!!!!s would agree that the 360's are just not engineered very well.
I have had my PS3 since the first of december and you can tell it's built a hell of a lot better than the 360 because I haven't had one crash from my PS3 to date.

And there's no particular reason the other poster preferes HDdvd over Blueray because you get more capacity with Blueray and there's little difference past that.
Unless he just hates sony or sumpthin?
 
What is your issue with the Blu Ray format vs the HD DVD? What does the format offer that you completely hate? Is it Sony?

I was thinking the same thing. Why do you really care? I refuse to buy any movies for either format until there's a winner, but it hasn't stopped me from Netflix'ing, though.
I see no reason to hate either one.

I don't have an issue specifically with BluRay... I simply prefer HD-DVD. As it stands, there are several movies exclusive to one format or the other, which sucks for me. That means I either have to pony up for both, or have a limited library to choose from. If one fails, the other gains full support. Quite simply, I think HD-DVD is more practical, and is more appealing to me, so I would rather see that one become the new mainstream media format. The only way for that to happen is for BluRay to fail.

I would start praying every night for this to happen. At least thats what it looks like right now. You never really know though:) Seeing as I don't really care...here is to you getting your hope.

One can hope :p. It's a long ways off though...


Games are being ripped on BR... with future PS3 games, I'm sure they will not fit on your standard DVD, I don't want to be swaping CD's during middle of my game. As for your format war, BR is "pwning" HD-DVD in terms of sales and how many studios are backing them up.

From your responce I can tell you are a X360 fan, you support basically everything that X360 is doing. I can't wait for X360v2 but as for the current X360 its a big POS and I will not buy one. I'd rather spend 700 bucks on a system that I know isnt gonna crash out on me. I've had my PS3 since December with 0 problems. I don't think many X360 users can say that. I know so many people that have had to deal with replacing their X360 through warrenty, what happens when thei warrenty is up and they have a flakey console... SOL and waste more money on another one?

PS3 + HDTV = FTW!!!!

haha

Well, your wrong, on many many levels. I do like my 360 very much, but I am far from an MS fan boy. I still play the hell out of my PS2 (and for that matter, and very anxiously awaiting GOW2 tomorrow). I dislike the PS3, and gave legititmate reasons why... I don't see how that just makes me a flat out MS supporter. The fact that I prefer HD-DVD has NOTHING to do with the 360. If I got an HD-DVD drive, it would be the 360 one to throw in a PC anyways, I wouldn't use my 360 to play the movies. I prefer HD-DVD mainly because the equipment and the movies are cheaper... and image quality is the same. I'd rather have the cheaper one thanks. Really, the only technical advantage to BluRay is the greater storage capacity, which as I have said in the past is totally useless. Movies are already coming in two disk special editions on the HD formats when they don't need to. Your average consumer is going to think more discs = more content. So who cares if a BD can hold 50GB if they are only using 20GB of it for the movie, and then using maybe 5GB max of the second disk for all the extra shit.

As far as 360 being a POS, once again, wrong (atleast applied to me). I have two launch 360's. One I purcahsed on launch day, another I won in the Mountain Dew thing. Both are still running flawlessly a year and a half later. Likewise, a buddy of mine and his brother have two launch systems, both working fine. I am not saying there aren't problems with them, but I think you are either far exaggerating, or know people who are playing soccer with their 360's. I will give you that the PS3 has seemed to be more relibable so far, but it still has had problems, so don't try to make it out like the PS3 is flawless and every 360 is doomed to failure.

Oh, and as far as games being ripped on BluRay, big deal. Remeber the whole deal with Oblivion, where the only reason why they are using more than the capacity of a DVD is because they are duplicating textures all over the place to make up for the BD's poor read times? Eventually, yes, games will reach a point where more than 9GB is required, and guess what... I would still rather have two DVD's and switch them than pay $200 more. I did it when I had a PS1 and I did it with a Dreamcast. It's not really that hard. Throughout the entire course of playing the game, I will have to get up one extra time, and exert the effort of ejecting one disc, and replacing it with another to keep playing. OMG, there goes 10 seconds of my life down the drain!
 
And there's no particular reason the other poster preferes HDdvd over Blueray because you get more capacity with Blueray and there's little difference past that.
Unless he just hates sony or sumpthin?

I've said it before, I'll say it again... it is 100% cost related. If I wanted to right now, I could walk into any store, spend $200, and walk out with an HD-DVD drive that I could hook to my 360 or plunk into my computer. To get BluRay right now, the cheapest option is a $500 console that doesn't have any games on it I want to play, and very few in the forseeable future. The prices of the movies seem to be evening out where they are both close, but when it comes to picking up a player at the store, HD-DVD saves me $300. If Sony kicked out a $200 BluRay PC drive or something, I'd likely be singing a different tune.
 
ps3 fans by reading this you are saying the ps3 sucks right now but buy one anyway because later on it will have great games for it right? i am sure its a great bd player but i just want to make sure i am getting your answer correct on the games side. i am gaining intrest in the machine but i refuse to INVEST money into a machine that will only lose value over time. i will get one when the games are there and are proven to be worth playing. i just cant believe you arnt saying better things or have a better points.

when it was ps2 vs xbox all the xbox guys said ohh the xbox looks so much better but the games sucked at the time. now its like the tables are turned. no i dont think it looks that much better but just listening to the fans.
 
There are good games out for it *right now.* I'd certainly say there are as many good titles for it as the Wii.
It can't compete with the 360's line-up, but keep in mind that the 360 had a pretty lousy game list up until March of last year, too. The 360 didn't really hit stride until GRAW, Burnout, and Oblivion all came out rapid fire.
 
There are good games out for it *right now.* I'd certainly say there are as many good titles for it as the Wii.
It can't compete with the 360's line-up, but keep in mind that the 360 had a pretty lousy game list up until March of last year, too. The 360 didn't really hit stride until GRAW, Burnout, and Oblivion all came out rapid fire.

This is purely a matter of opinion, so lets not start a shit-fest over it, but I think the PS3 has a pretty miserable launch lineup. The only game at launch that was even worth noting was Resistance, and even that was only so good. It was a gem by the other launch game standards, but compared to other games on other platforms, it was not anything special. It was not bad... but not deserving of any accolaides either. It's like PS3's Halo.

Other than that, what's come out since launch thats worth playing. Virtua Fighter is the only thing that comes to my mind. Many will say motorstorm... I have played, and I happened to think it was a pretty crappy game all around, and it was probably the one PS3 game I was most excited about. The Wii, again IMHO, has a better lineup. You have Wii Sports, which is free, and is absolutly fantastic. That alone is a system seller for me. Then there is Zelda, another fantastic game. Those are really the only two heavy hitters, but there are quite a few other games that are still above average. Warioware, Trauma Center, and Rayman are all really fun.

Now, on the 360, that also wasn't the most impressive launch, but again, better than PS3's IMHO. I put a lot of hours into PGR3... and had a blast with Kameo. Heh... I can't even remember that far back... what else was there? PD0 I had, and it was pretty crappy... DOA4 was fun though, if you concider that a launch title. I know I had other launch titles though. Oh... Condemned, that was short, but sweet. First game that gave me the jitters in a long time. Maybe not woth $60, but it was fun.
 
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