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DLSS 5 - Generative AI
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HardwareUnboxed found the same thing, DLSS5 in NBA is simply unimpressive, texture pack or not. Not sure why Nvidia chose that as the debut title for it
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625+ Watts pegged vs 500?I am utterly and totally shocked
the difference isn't an improvement that i can see
HardwareUnboxed found the same thing, DLSS5 in NBA is simply unimpressive, texture pack or not. Not sure why Nvidia chose that as the debut title for it
Hardware Unboxed also said he'd rather play the game with DLSS 5 on versus off overall and thinks it makes it look better overall (timestamped to where he says it in final thoughts)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxvuvZI6Vjg&t=1726s
Hard for any of us here to say as you didn't give A/B on/off screenshots to compare
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i think he doesn't know about the high res texture pack...
it's not popping up OOTB .... that's my point
the comparison is seemingly rigged or something is amiss.. somehow i triggered it download after i reset my settings and disabled DLSS entirely...
Again I showed you people had the texture pack even before you did - you seem to think you're the only one to have/discover it or something - send them (HWUB) an email ask if they had the texture pack
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i still don't care, i seen this video before and it's not a transformative uplift in visual fidelity
and it's not worth the massive power draw at all. i'm having a great time with the texture pack regardless of when anyone else downloaded it.
the power draw is the biggest red flag for me, and i already had one card die. i'm done experimenting and don't want to go through another RMA
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are you and GoldenTiger even using DLSS 5? i can at least say i've used it first hand and the official implementation, it's unimpressive for the additional 125+ watts of power drawI'm shocked
your minds are blown by this technology?
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In the same video not even a minute later he literally says it is not quite transformative enough in NBA. I still think Nvidia could have chosen a better game to showcase DLSS5 where the difference is much greater, but if no other game was ready for release then I guess they had no choice but go with what was ready for launch.
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haha yep, i don't think it's transformative for sure
why is everyone ignoring the insane power draw too ???
pegging 625+ watts....
yeah i'm happier with just the high resolution texture pack to be honest, i got spooked at that power draw and exited the game under DLSS 5.. not wanting another meltdown
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My card was maxed at 575 watts at 4K, at 1440p it is hovering around 500-525W and GPU core temps are 77C with default fan profile. I would suggest an undervolt if you're playing at 4K.
It's akin to comparing ambient occlusion medium/high etc (or take your pick of settings) - you're gonna want to be able to play with it on/max if you can and it's there, and especially if you can notice a/the difference/improvement as he said he can - but depending on how much of a difference you can notice from high to medium you might drop from high to medium or on to off depending on performance/power draw etc etc - that's what the video/he gets at - 'play with it on if you can - but it's not worth dropping other settings for that one setting to stay on/max/etc'
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here's mine, but clearly it's gone over to 625 Watts somehow. i run totally stock too
GPU Device Id: 0x10DE 0x2B85PG145 SKU 30 VGA BIOS MSINV530MH.161Copyright (C) 1996-2024 NVIDIA Corp.GPU BoardConnectors 1x HDMI 3x DisplayPortBoard power limit Target: 575.0 W Limit: 600.0 W Adj. Range: -30%, +4%Thermal Limits Target: 90.0°C, 90.0°C, 90.0°C Max: 105.0°C, 105.0°C, 105.0°C
Your card was still under warranty?
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yea, why
just got it back from MSI RMA Dept today: https://hardforum.com/threads/rtx-5090-fe-molten-12vhpwr.2039669/post-1046383753
Presumably to get early reviews out about how improved the DLSS5 look is before the high resolution pack gets less of a jump in visuals after DLSS5.
https://www.shacknews.com/article/7...why-swtors-hi-res-textures-vanished-at-launch
Or it could just be a legitimate bug/mistake as has been shown to occur before, Mulder
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You do have an adjustable limit of +4% which would be 624 watts, maybe it's currently running at 104% power instead of 100% power so you might want to double check. But again, it's probably best to do an undervolt if power consumption is a big concern.
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You're...... you're joking right? You're really not this daft?
It shows games have launched with missing high res texture packs before - thus this is probably not some 'grand conspiracy' and more just a mistake as that was - or do you think that was a conspiracy then as well?
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i’ll just assume that you assume i’m more than that daft and worse
but that’s okay. i don’t even think you’ve used this technology first hand
in the end the conclusion has been made, the effect is not transformative in the official first title promoting dlss5
and i’ll re-emphasize the insane power draw once again
I just assume you're disingenuously and ideologically against it no matter what - as you've shown before it was ever released - but still regardless your review isn't gonna stop it, as said to you before it was ever released as well - you don't need to like it for it to still be a thing/exist - and not only are technologies you personally approve of allowed to be things/exist - just turn it off
while you still can
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you don’t see a problem with the power draw?I just assume you're disingenuously and ideologically against it no matter what - as you've shown before it was ever released - but still regardless your review isn't gonna stop it, as said to you before it was ever released as well - you don't need to like it for it to still be a thing/exist - and not only are technologies you personally approve of allowed to be things/exist - just turn it off
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how is that disingenuously against it when it fried my first card and when i gave it a good faith effort again it pulls even more than i anticipated to the point of me alt-f4’ing to avert another meltdown? 625+ watts is the highest i recall it ever reaching and that’s totally unacceptable
i shouldn’t have to mod my card to protect it. i just want to plug and play
yea i don’t like what i see at all and ive used it first hand multiple times
You were against it before you even tried it - that's all here and documented in this and various/other threads
Yeah I see the power draw is high - so turn it off if that bothers you - plenty of others as demonstrated all over are using it without it frying their cards otherwise we'd be drowning in reports of that just as much as we have 'game with DLSS5 injected' videos all over the place - as more and more cards/architectures/SW improvements come out that are more and more powerful and more and more efficient the (maybe even just equivalent?) power draw will be less and less - again you seem to think 'this is the best it will ever be' - genuinely or disingenuously - which is never really the case, especially with technology
So for you - just turn it off for now
while you still can
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it’s a subjective opinionYou were against it before you even tried it - that's all here documented in various/other threads
Yeah I see the power draw is high - so turn it off if that bothers you - plenty of others as demonstrated all over are using it without it frying their cards otherwise we'd be drowning in reports of that just as much as we have 'game with DLSS5 injected' videos all over the place - as more and more cards/architectures/SW improvements come out that are more and more powerful and more and more efficient the (maybe even just equivalent?) power draw will be less and less - again you seem to think 'this is the best it will ever be' - genuinely or disingenuously - which is never really the case, especially with technology
So for you - just turn it off for now
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i’m not the only person who doesn’t like the look
what’s the issue ? i and other people don’t like it and it’s already disabled for me
So then why the need to keep complaining about it if it's turned off and not bothering you anymore? What do you think you'll accomplish?
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because i noticed there isn’t a remarkable difference between the high resolution texture pack and my previous experience with dlss5 in terms of image quality
but the power draw is outrageous
i humored and or entertained your side by re-enabling dlss5 with the high texture pack and was greeted with a very alarming and unpleasant surprise on the power draw
all while still yet again being unimpressive
You never did give us a side by side you gave us 2 completely different images of different players/angles/shots/etc - hard to compare apples and oranges - but that's not an ask or invitation to do so, mind you - so regardless, noted, you don't like it, for the 1,500th time - so keep it off.
And thus you'll never have anything additional to add ever again, as you'll never use it ever again. The end. Now you can get back to spamming news articles without being distracted and angered by DLSS5 - because why would you do that to yourself, right?
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i don't know how to enable or disable dlss5 in game like thatYou never did give us a side by side you gave us 2 completely different images of different players/angles/shots/etc - hard to compare apples and oranges - but that's not an ask or invitation to do so, mind you - so regardless, noted, you don't like it, for the 1,500th time - so keep it off.
And thus you'll never have anything additional to add ever again, as you'll never use it ever again. The end. Now you can get back to spamming news articles without being distracted and angered by DLSS5 - because why would you do that to yourself, right?
i assume people are using mods, but i'm using the official implementation so it's hard to exact 1:1
are you and GoldenTiger even using DLSS 5?
No, because I don't want to bother installing mods/various SW/etc I don't really want or need - I'll just wait for it to come to one of my existing games or a new one I get
Now before you respond with the obvious crap you already have before and will try to again, I'll preempt it - one does not need to punch themselves in the balls to know it will hurt - just as 'trying DLSS5' is some some barrier to pointing out the things I'm pointing out to you
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i think you need to enable DLSS 5 and then maybe that opinion will matter more
until then, it doesn't regardless of your failed "preemption"
not sure why you're such a big supporter of it anyhow, others in the chat even quoted about what hardware unboxed said but seems you're glossing over that
You opinion needs to matter to me first before I care about your valuation of mine, etc - I'll let you know if/when that ever happens, I promise
Why does it matter to you if I'm a supporter of it or not, especially if as you said - you tried it, you're not gonna use it. Why would you care one way or the other if others/anyone liked it?
I replied to what the other guy said about HWUB - scroll up and read.
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Sure, but have you tried other games with DLSS5? Or are you waiting for more official implementations before you try it out? You say DLSS5 is not transformative in the first official title that it's in, and you're probably right, but that doesn't mean that DLSS5 isn't transformative at all. You need a bigger sample size than 1 to really be able to conclude whether or not it makes a big difference. So far, I've done full playthroughs of 3 games with DLSS5 which are MGS4 PC version, Stalker 2 Cost of Hope, and Blood of Dawnwalker. Yeah it's not a very big list but I sank dozens of hours across these 3 games, it wasn't like I only played each one for 30 mins and called it. I would say it is absolutely transformative for those games and I wouldn't want to play without them. Currently doing a NG+ run of Shadow of the Tomb Raider with DLSS5 and it also makes a big leap in image quality for that game and I'm going to try out Control Resonant this weekend with DLSS5. I am using RenoDX mod to get them working in all my games so if you would prefer to wait for more official implementations rather than use mods then go ahead and wait, your opinion may change once you see other games running with DLSS5 that can showcase it better.
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i think you're too scared to enable it due to the possible performance shock on that 5070You opinion needs to matter to me first before I care about your valuation of mine, etc - I'll let you know if/when that ever happens, I promise
Why does it matter to you if I'm a supporter of it or not, especially if as you said - you tried it, you're not gonna use it. Why would you care one way or the other if others/anyone liked it?
I replied to what the other guy said about HWUB - scroll up and read.
not even talking about the power draw, but the performance loss is huge too on my 5090.
the "I don't want to bother installing mods/various SW/etc I don't really want or need" is just an excuse to cover up what you probably already know will be a hard hit on the performance / fps
Yeah I'm shaking in my boots, pissing my pants at the thought I might hear my GPU fans spin up - framerate might drop to single digits like when watching 3DMark back in the day - I don't think I could survive that - I'd rather face and fight the monster under my bed or peg my CPU at 100% for 12 hours like when I do a 4K encode
Again - I can already see in reviews and videos the performance hit - I don't think they're lying - one does not need to punch themselves in the balls to know it will hurt - do you?
I don't like chromatic aberration - I turn it off in games. You don't see me going on some crusade against it everywhere. I just turn it off.
You're not gonna stop it. That's what this is all about, and we all know it, but you won't. It's already here
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you can't use this excuse, "I don't want to bother installing mods/various SW/etc I don't really want or need"Yeah I'm shaking in my boots, pissing my pants at the thought I might hear my GPU fans spin up - framerate might drop to single digits like when watching 3DMark back in the day - I don't think I could survive that - I'd rather face and fight the monster under my bed or peg my CPU at 100% for 12 hours like when I do a 4K encode
Again - I can already see in reviews and videos the performance hit - I don't think they're lying - one does not need to punch themselves in the balls to know it will hurt - do you?
You're not gonna stop it. That's what this is all about, and we all know it, but you won't. It's already here
so why don't you enable it then if you're not concerned about the performance penalty and power draw?
doesn't seem like anything is stopping you from enabling it
I already told you - I don't care enough to want to install SW I don't really want or need - just to try something in an unofficial capacity that won't even look right as it's intended to be used/look - when I will just eventually try it anyway 'correctly' when it gets officially patched into one of my existing games (like RE: Requiem I'm thinking) or in some new game I'll eventually buy.
If you don't like that - I don't care
suck on it and not like it lol(The truth is I'm terrified - don't tell anyone - my GPU might blow up and kill me and then it'll come for you too and no one will be able to stop it - I don't want that
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