Diablo 3 Discussion Thread

You don't know when your pets have died? There is a pretty big area at the top left that shows your pets...
 
Fuck this games online all the time bullshit. I remember trying to play when it first came out, couldn't get on for a few days.

Finally broke down and got the expansion. Got a couple hours to kill before work, gf is still sleeping so can't do anything to loud, perfect opportunity to play. Nope, servers are down for... WHO THE FUCK KNOWS WHY SERVERS WOULD BE DOWN FOR 8 FUCKING HOURS.
 
Blizzard servers are always down on Tuesdays.
If this game had sp it would turn into hacker paradise, the likes of which we've seen with Torchlight 1 and 2, and also Diablo 3 on consoles.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Blizzard servers are always down on Tuesdays.
If this game had sp it would turn into hacker paradise, the likes of which we've seen with Torchlight 1 and 2, and also Diablo 3 on consoles.
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Why would I care as I want to play the game in single player. Why can't we have single player only characters and online only characters?
 
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Why would I care as I want to play the game in single player. Why can't we have single player only characters and online only characters?
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Dood, quiet down, the fan boys will come out to shun you for saying anything negative about the Bliz maintenance Tuesday. I know it is 2014 and they have had plenty of time and resources to change how they do things, but come on man, you gonna agitate the swarm. "Servers need maintenance yo!" and all that....
 
ob1 said:
Dood, quiet down, the fan boys will come out to shun you for saying anything negative about the Bliz maintenance Tuesday. I know it is 2014 and they have had plenty of time and resources to change how they do things, but come on man, you gonna agitate the swarm. "Servers need maintenance yo!" and all that....
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Whatever the do, works. I cant even remember that last time besides a Tuesday maintenance that Blizz servers crashed/went down unexpectedly. More online based games should do this maintenance if they have are the same magnitude as WoW. Preventing problems is a hell of a lot easier than fixing something unknown that crashes
 
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Why would I care as I want to play the game in single player. Why can't we have single player only characters and online only characters?
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I'm sure some people would love to play WoW as single player. Doesn't mean it's ever gonna happen.
Now that everyone is through listing their assumptions, yes piracy is a small reason why this decision was made.

The main reason that drove the decision was to prevent hacks/bots/dupes on Diablo 3. The aforementioned was arguably the #1 complaint about Diablo 2, and Blizzard set out, from square one, to fix that complaint. The first, and probably largest step to securing the servers from these issues was by hiding the server architecture.

Diablo is a client/server based game, like many games today, where a client interfaces with a server to receive the information that it needs for the content of the game. In order to create an offline functionality, they'd have to reproduce, 1-to-1, their server architecture in the game's install files, essentially handing over the blueprints to their security systems to all of the hackers in the world. Obviously, given this information, it would only be a matter of time before the hackers broke the securities and, once again, flooded the land of Sanctuary with duplicated items, hacked items, and spam bots/run bots/mf bots.

All that being said, I hope you and anyone else reading this can see that Online-Only is a good decision, and is not designed as some underhanded scheme to make the paying customers suffer.
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See, that didn't take long, what 2 minutes. Ignore the fact that there are online only games that never go down, except for major content/expansion updates. I recall one that I played, which came out like a month before WoW, that didn't go down even for patches for almost a year. But I know, now you will get the obligatory, "but they don't have 6 million players" stuff. I have played many online only games that do not go down regularly or as unexpectedly as most Bliz stuff. But again, we have been through all this. I know I'm a dumbass for not understanding why the Tuesday maintenance needs to happen for every single title they have. You fan boys don't need to continue sending PM's about my mother and such...
 
ob1 said:
See, that didn't take long, what 2 minutes. Ignore the fact that there are online only games that never go down, except for major content/expansion updates. I recall one that I played, which came out like a month before WoW, that didn't go down even for patches for almost a year. But I know, now you will get the obligatory, "but they don't have 6 million players" stuff. I have played many online only games that do not go down regularly or as unexpectedly as most Bliz stuff. But again, we have been through all this. I know I'm a dumbass for not understanding why the Tuesday maintenance needs to happen for every single title they have. You fan boys don't need to continue sending PM's about my mother and such...
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Back in 2003 I made a few thousand dollars selling duped SoJ's on eBay, using a method we partly discovered through the single player source files.
So PLEASE, no single player for Diablo 3.

See also: Map hacks, auto looters, hacked (fabricated) items. D2's Closed servers are a cesspool of cheats.

Arguably the RMAH was worse though.

Ignore the fact that there are online only games that never go down
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Those crash, and they're only a fraction as popular as Blizzard's servers are.
 
ob1 said:
See, that didn't take long, what 2 minutes. Ignore the fact that there are online only games that never go down, except for major content/expansion updates. I recall one that I played, which came out like a month before WoW, that didn't go down even for patches for almost a year. But I know, now you will get the obligatory, "but they don't have 6 million players" stuff. I have played many online only games that do not go down regularly or as unexpectedly as most Bliz stuff. But again, we have been through all this. I know I'm a dumbass for not understanding why the Tuesday maintenance needs to happen for every single title they have. You fan boys don't need to continue sending PM's about my mother and such...
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This has absolutely nothing to do with being a fanboy but how clueless you are when it comes to maintaining servers. Persistant online games with up to a 15 million userbase have SIGNIFICANTLY higher network requirements. It does not scale linearly. Blizzards SC servers don't go do with wow. I have seen Guild Wars 2 servers crash, FFXIV Servers have had issues, Please name a game on the magnitude of wow whos servers have never gone offline.
 
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Why would I care as I want to play the game in single player. Why can't we have single player only characters and online only characters?
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Buy a single player game then? You bought an always online multiplayer game. If you want to play it forever alone, that is fine. However you need to deal with the other aspects like downtime, worse loot (compared to people playing solo), slower progression, and some content that really isn't balanced for people playing each class solo.
 
Again, I don't want to devolve the thread, you guys are right, I'm wrong and a dumbass. I don't know shit about server maintenance. EQ2 goes down every Tuesday too. I'm sorry for bringing it up. Just put my noob ass on ignore or something because questioning anyone/anything is just wrong and proves how stupid I am. Apologies all around.
 
ob1 said:
Again, I don't want to devolve the thread, you guys are right, I'm wrong and a dumbass. I don't know shit about server maintenance. EQ2 goes down every Tuesday too. I'm sorry for bringing it up. Just put my noob ass on ignore or something because questioning anyone/anything is just wrong and proves how stupid I am. Apologies all around.
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EQ2's userbase isnt anywhere near the magnitude and i have seen EQ2 servers crash for longer periods of time than Blizz's maintenance
 
VladDracule said:
EQ2's userbase isnt anywhere near the magnitude and i have seen EQ2 servers crash for longer periods of time than Blizz's maintenance
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I don't suppose you have any links to support the claim that EQ2's crash periods are longer than Bliz maintenance? I haven't played in years, either WoW or EQ2, but I do recall seeing both crash, (server side). I also never claimed that EQ2 server base was bigger than WoW. But I'm curious if you are saying that if it were the same size, they would have a weekly maintenance period instead of their current shadow maintenance system?
 
What in the fuck? It's necessary for the servers to go down? Is this 1994 and I'm playing a MUD on a fucking BBS?

Hey, have you guys ever heard of this thing called 'the google?' No? What about the latitudes of free streaming porn sites? I can't remember the last time I had to go blue balling it because my favorite one went down (Haha, I MADE A FUNNY) for scheduled maintenance.

Yes, I bought an online only game, that I wish to play single player. My net connection is rock solid (Another funny? Didn't quite hit the mark..) I however didn't know that their servers went down every tuesday for some R&R. I guess servers need to uhhh, what get a massage, get drunk?

I know they are doing this on a day and during hours where it will impact the fewest amount of people, but really they couldn't split it up? Do half the servers on tuesday, half on wednesday? There's no possible way in the world they could do that?
 
My god man, what are you doing? Loading, please stop before it gets messy bro.
 
Ahh the old Blizzard patch tuesday discussion. I'm sure it's been brought up at least a few times in this colossus of a thread.

I always thought it was retarded myself. They should have separate clusters that they bring live when they want to do maintenance. Just have a 30 minute down-time while you swap them over. Work on your off-line cluster all you want, then swap them out and work on the other bunch. But it all comes down to money so if they can save a bunch of money and just tell all their loyal fans that they have to deal with not playing a blizz game on Tuesday, so be it. They know they have loyal fans and that they can save more money by skimping on server stuff vs a few people they upset, who just happen to have already bought the games before getting upset about downtime lol
 
Announced a while ago. There is never going to be a perfect time for everybody.
 
D3's server are far more stable then the League of Legends servers. Shit crashes all the time.
 
chockomonkey said:
Ahh the old Blizzard patch tuesday discussion. I'm sure it's been brought up at least a few times in this colossus of a thread.

I always thought it was retarded myself. They should have separate clusters that they bring live when they want to do maintenance. Just have a 30 minute down-time while you swap them over. Work on your off-line cluster all you want, then swap them out and work on the other bunch. But it all comes down to money so if they can save a bunch of money and just tell all their loyal fans that they have to deal with not playing a blizz game on Tuesday, so be it. They know they have loyal fans and that they can save more money by skimping on server stuff vs a few people they upset, who just happen to have already bought the games before getting upset about downtime lol
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They do it Tuesday morning because it's the least active time of the week.
Truthfully there aren't many people who are inconvenienced by it. Maybe a few people who want to check their mail/auctions in the morning before they go to work.

Blizzard doesn't feel the need to accommodate such a few amount of players every Tuesday by using "alternate" servers. As someone who has been inconvenienced by Blizzard's Tuesday maintenance since 2004, I'd like there to be another option so I can play... But I also realize I'm in the minority and Blizzard doesn't care about minorities.

They skip a lot of weeks too, so it's not *every* Tuesday. I prefer scheduled maintenances over emergency maintenances.
 
Server is back online, but now there is a Queue for authentication. Is everyone trying to log into the game at the same time?
 
Oh wow what a lot of crying. Back in the day WoW would go down on Tuesday and not come back up til.. Thursday or so.

Also when I was raiding 6 nights a week Tuesdays were a good time to do RL stuff like grocery shopping.
 
elleana said:
Oh wow what a lot of crying. Back in the day WoW would go down on Tuesday and not come back up til.. Thursday or so.

Also when I was raiding 6 nights a week Tuesdays were a good time to do RL stuff like grocery shopping.
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Or weekends, for groceries.. When people actually have the free time to do so.
 
So it looks like the PS4/XBO UEE version still has reduced enemy count.
Also players get reduced pets too. WD only gets 2 zombie dogs (3 on PC).

The reviews I watched (cough IGN cough) claimed UEE matched PC enemy density -- FALSE!
Yet another reason why always-online is a good idea. Less load client-side.

Monster density seems to be on par with the PC version of the game
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been able to bring us the enemy density of the PC version this time.
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The monster density will hopefully increase to that of the pc version as well.
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without any performance issues, given the increased enemy density.
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TaintedSquirrel said:
So it looks like the PS4/XBO UEE version still has reduced enemy count.
Also players get reduced pets too. WD only gets 2 zombie dogs (3 on PC).

The reviews I watched (cough IGN cough) claimed UEE matched PC enemy density -- FALSE!
Yet another reason why always-online is a good idea. Less load client-side.
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Has nothing to do with less client side load.. the computer still has to process it.
 
Kenjiwing said:
Has nothing to do with less client side load.. the computer still has to process it.
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Blizzard telling your client where monsters are located isn't the same as performing AI calculations which (I assume) is done server-side.
But I have no idea what is being done by the client vs server.

Just a thought.
Also the next-gen consoles have the CPU equivalent of a Core 2 Duo so that explains the mob density.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Blizzard telling your client where monsters are located isn't the same as performing AI calculations which (I assume) is done server-side.
But I have no idea what is being done by the client vs server.

Just a thought.
Also the next-gen consoles have the CPU equivalent of a Core 2 Duo so that explains the mob density.
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The AI in Diablo 3 never struck me as being CPU intensive. The mobs are about as brain dead as you can get :D

I wonder is the PS4 and XOne versions have the same mob density as the PS3 and X360 versions.
 
Last night i found a near perfect thunderfury and akkahn gloves. Mind was blown. im now farming t3 on hardcore at paragon 237ish. Still running my Condem+BoP build. Im excited to get 1 more peice of be in almost perma akarats champion for some massive DEEPS.
 
Fill the screen with a bunch of rift mobs and WD pets and your fps will tank.
I regularly drop to 10-15fps.

Google results told me to lower sound channels, which helped a bit. Maybe a dedicated sound card would help.

Should be noted, I played on non-pet DH and Wiz for about 200 hours with no drops and that was a Q6600 + HD5870 in 2012.
So whatever it is, it's almost certainly a pet issue with WD.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Fill the screen with a bunch of rift mobs and WD pets and your fps will tank.
I regularly drop to 10-15fps.

Google results told me to lower sound channels, which helped a bit. Maybe a dedicated sound card would help.

Should be noted, I played on non-pet DH and Wiz for about 200 hours with no drops and that was a Q6600 + HD5870 in 2012.
So whatever it is, it's almost certainly a pet issue with WD.
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It might be. I was playing my crusader last night with a wiz + 2 pet WD... my fps TANKED hard during big fights
 
Yeah I run a DH with cloak of garwulf (can't find a better chestpiece) and 4 pieces of the Marauder's, so my FPS also takes a huge hit with all of my companions running around. Can't wait to finish Marauder's so I can plop down some sentries and have even more slideshow fun
 
Blizz has been doing server downtime on Tuesdays for what, a decade?
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Fill the screen with a bunch of rift mobs and WD pets and your fps will tank.
I regularly drop to 10-15fps.

Google results told me to lower sound channels, which helped a bit. Maybe a dedicated sound card would help.

Should be noted, I played on non-pet DH and Wiz for about 200 hours with no drops and that was a Q6600 + HD5870 in 2012.
So whatever it is, it's almost certainly a pet issue with WD.
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Only ever happens to me on Act 3/Act 4 based ones. I've had a couple of T4 rifts with 4 doctors(3 of us had pets I think) and there weren't any slowdowns. Maybe turning off AA, switching the shadow setting or using the Low effects might help.
 
Act V always kills me more than any other Act, simple reason is because my FPS are absolutely obliterated for no good reason at all. I hate it when we get a rift that ends on an Act V map, I basically have to gimp along at 5 fps until we hit the RG and I just sit back the entire time and hope it doesn't plague/molten/ice me too much while I watch my health drain and my potion won't pop because everything is delayed ... ugh
 
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