Diablo 3 Discussion Thread

chockomonkey said:
I'd be curious to see what the market would be like if they actually stopped botters. Maybe that's the real issue--inflation. Or someething. I just feel they did a shit job with this game's economy. I expected it to feel more like WoW's economy, but it couldn't feel further from that.
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It could, and never will, feel like WOWs economy because of fundamental differences in the game. D3 is pure RNG, WOW is known gear within a loot table, most of the best stuff being BOA/BOE/BOP.
 
Breath_of_the_Dying said:
Newegg should keep prices of high end video cards under control. They need to cap the price to something reasonable, say $100.
Valve should set a cap on all their games to something more reasonable, say $30.

Blizzard isn't controlling the prices, the free market is. People will pay for those things at that price, why stop them. The only reason they even set the cap was for legal reasons, not as a way to control the economy.
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Nvidia/AMD set MSRP on there videocards, Valve sets the price for there games, items in Diablo 3 are the property of Blizzard, see the difference?

Considering the shitty way they have item drops setup, its not really a free market. Blizzard purposely pushes people to use the AH with there system and takes a cut with RMAH.
 
TwistedAegis said:
It could, and never will, feel like WOWs economy because of fundamental differences in the game. D3 is pure RNG, WOW is known gear within a loot table, most of the best stuff being BOA/BOE/BOP.
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Damn their pure RNG shenanigans.

It woulda been cool to see how everything would have been if they made gear Bind on Equip, and buffed drop rates.
 
I see the option for that, but then where do I go to set it after I enable it?

EDIT: NM I see it, you have to set it while selecting the quest to start a new game, doesn't look like you can toggle on the fly.
 
TwistedAegis said:
I see the option for that, but then where do I go to set it after I enable it?

EDIT: NM I see it, you have to set it while selecting the quest to start a new game, doesn't look like you can toggle on the fly.
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Correct, it's set only before you hop in a session to prevent level swapping mid battle. It's such a confusing series of steps to enable it the first time. As much as I knew about the system when ptr was up, I still had to google the steps to actually enable it.

Bad, UI designer, bad!
 
So, did a butcher run with MP2. Not too bad, it was made much harder by the fact that I was in my group spec (fire meteor) instead of a solo'ing spec. Butcher took me down about 5 times. If I spec better, I think I could probably go MP3, mayyyyybe 4. Definitely breaths some new life into the game. Got quite a few more rares, not too much higher quality though. Did get a decent ammy: 45 dex, 119vit, 8% life, 9%crit.
 
Chance to Fear on Hit is so OP. The bosses spend more time running from me than hitting me. :)

Don't mention it on the D3 forums for at least a week. Let me have my fun!
 
Yay! Found my first set item! Blackthorne's amulet with 82 str/vit, 8% attack, 640 loh, +14% life. Not a bad roll, just wish the strength had rolled higher.
 
Ouch, my survivability is way too low for MP4. I might have to stick to MP2 to maintain Archon's viability since it relies so much on kill rate until I can find an alternative.
 
Level 10 Gate keeper down with 5 stack......I rule.

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There was some stuff that annoyed me while playing today but I can't remember what now.

MP5 seemed decent for me.

Oh. The auction house is limited digits again. Like I couldn't put in 9.5 crit chance. They also reordered the list again (jfc stop changing it).
 
i'm too busy playing to say much, but excited enough to come here and say this:

yay cc works again!
 
Freeze spec I take it Stevedave?

I think Monster power is pretty well rounded. Although I gotta say even people with reasonably good gear will have a very hard time doing anything above Monster Power 6 on up (bosses and rares will be the real challenge).

I tried 10 with a few friends and we were able to survive just fine (sorta) but our biggest issue was DPS. You need a metric fuck ton of good dps to do shit and if you are fighting a rare or pack of champs with illusionist you can just fucking forget it unless you brought 2 demon hunters (since they are incredibly overpowered right now) that are decently geared. At level 10 we were beating on a rare for almost 20+ minutes , it was lunacy. And we tried The Butcher but he enraged well before we could make a dent.

All in all though its pretty fun to be able to tune the difficulty but I really wish Blizzard would spend some serious time analyzing all the massively overpriced gearing going on in the RMAH. They need to focus in on the stats that are overvalued or over abused and adjust so that prices can come down in the realm of reality for people.

Right now , I priced out my upgrades for today , that would make a sizable impact on my dps and its going to cost me at least 180 million gold. I've already bought about 25 million to 50 million gold just because I work and don't feel like farming forever , there is simply no way for me to justify spending over $100 on gear upgrades only to have them get nerfed for the upcoming PVP patch which will end up requiring likely a different set of gear aimed at life generation and life steal.

I hope the next big patch is focused ALL on balancing and less on pleasing people who have endlessly deep pockets to buy all the top tier gear with.
 
MP3 for me for the time being. Went 3/3 on Act 1-3 Key Wardens, so the RNG was with me tonight on those!. Got 4 legendaries as well - Blackthorne's Boots + Belt, Natalya's Chest, and Mara's Kaleidoscope. Kind of "meh" on all of them, but I can certainly deal with those drop rates.

Is reflect damage broken? Not that I'm complaining, but it seems that it simply stops working after the first few seconds. Don't recall seeing anything in the patch notes about it except that you could no longer dodge the reflected damage.

I kind of wish the legendary indicator on the map would last until you picked the item up, and also showed up on the regular map as well.

And weren't they supposed to fix the damage comparison on 2-handers vs. what's currently equipped in both hands? Because that sure isn't working.

EDIT: Act Bosses, at least on Inferno, seem to drop FAAAAAAAAAAR less items now, and WAAAAAAAAAAAY more gold. With a 5-stack, Azmodan dropped like only 4-5 items, but about 20 stacks of gold.
 
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I got a Nat's Chest too and it was pretty good. 91 Dex, 195 Vit, 160 health regen, 12% life, 3 sockets. Sold for 30M when i logged back on. Makes me wonder if i underpriced it.
 
Did the Infernal Machine and dropped Leoric and Maghda pretty quick. Didn't know what to expect so I just did MP1 and no NV stacks. And then I realized that I had to get the 3 fucking keys again. Seems a little lame to have it done that way, but I guess that explains how easy it is to get the keys in the first place. 4 for 4 on the keys and the plan on mp2 + mp3, lol.

Oh well, back at it.
 
I managed to get the spine from Leoric & Maghda. I'm having an issue with the other bosses, as I just don't have enough dps before the enrage timer hits (was on MP 2).
 
Mabu said:
EDIT: Act Bosses, at least on Inferno, seem to drop FAAAAAAAAAAR less items now, and WAAAAAAAAAAAY more gold. With a 5-stack, Azmodan dropped like only 4-5 items, but about 20 stacks of gold.
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I noticed this as well.

My luck is still awful when it comes to loot =/. 4 Legendaries, no set pieces. All the legendaries only worth salvage.

Shitty luck on keys too at mp5.

Edit: I also sold something on the RMAH today for $40 and didn't get the email about it
 
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stevedave said:
Level 10 Gate keeper down with 5 stack......I rule.

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Grats! :)

I think they hotfixed my Wizard. When the servers came up I had 1100 resists and everything was so easy I nearly went to sleep in MP1. Login tonight and I actually have to move to avoid attacks to keep from being 2 shotted where as the exact same affixes were completely tank and spank earlier.

Whatever changed is kinda fun though as I can teleport across whole maps for some reason. I have teleport and the secondary skill to allow me to teleport again if I do it right away. My record is 18 teleports in a row. Doesn't do it all of the time but when it does it's way too much fun!
 
Godmachine said:
Freeze spec I take it Stevedave?
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Nope I used Shield + Spectral Blade + AKON. Still at 100k DPS with a shield........That key boss was a Son Of a Bitch though. I got 2 keys at MP10. 6 at MP5 at about the same speed.

5pm Till now 1:40 and got 0 legendary 0 Set 0 good items.....and lost 250,000 gold....but had a blast doing it.

Level 10 = 10 mobs & 2 key bosses......no drops
Level 7 = All key levels.........................no drops
Level 5 = 30+ mobs & 10 Key bosses & 6 regular bosses...........no drops


So tonight nobody gets to say they didn't find anything good except me.


Thoughts on the patch.....bad ass......Except ever other patch kills the frames per second command CTRL R> I use 3 screen and like to watch that number dip below 60 when my screen gets sexed.
 
I tried briefly yesterday when it went up. I joined a public game and felt it was a pushover so I guessed the game creator didn't set any MP level. Some players with me wondered how can we determine at which MP level the game was created since there are no visual indicator ?
 
Xilikon said:
I tried briefly yesterday when it went up. I joined a public game and felt it was a pushover so I guessed the game creator didn't set any MP level. Some players with me wondered how can we determine at which MP level the game was created since there are no visual indicator ?
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MP is only available in private games.

My first impression after not playing for months and coming back. What the heck happened with frame rates and lag!? It's out of control now!
 
Maplehamwich said:
MP is only available in private games.

My first impression after not playing for months and coming back. What the heck happened with frame rates and lag!? It's out of control now!
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Yeah it was pretty bad for me last night too. Its clearly something that the patch brought and hopefully it will be cleared up quickly.
 
Rdzona said:
Yeah it was pretty bad for me last night too. Its clearly something that the patch brought and hopefully it will be cleared up quickly.
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I agree. I am interested to finish levelling my Barbarian, and trying out some of this new Inferno stuff with my DH. Maybe it was a server load issue?
 
I had so much fun on my Wizard last night, actually being able to effectively kite packs again. I joined an act 3 ML1 game by myself, and immediately got soul lashers. Died instantly to them.

Went back to town, changed up my spec to include more cc, and BAM! Was able to do it. It's realllly nice seeing frozen mobs again.

I'm also very eager to roll a new HC character and set that ML up pretty high! Normal will finally be not boring!!!!!

Did anyone else notice that, at least for weapons when you pick "find similar items", it picks the stupidest shit to search for?
 
I saw some massive frame rate hits earlier in the evening, to the tune of 5 fps as soon as I entered Keep Depths 3 for the first time. Had to teleport out and go back in to clear it. The rest of the night it was fine for me after that though.

Overall, made a few million from my drops + gold, so I'm very happy with things so far.
 
side-questions:

What do you guys pick up now?

Do you completely ignore all blues?

Does anyone craft anymore?

Is a rare considered crap if it has just one stat that's off?
 
Mortuus said:
MP level dont work in public games.
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Thanks, forgot about that ! It's a bummer since I love doing public games and having someone back you when you're in trouble. Guess i'll try some private games tonight with MP to see where I can stand.
 
chockomonkey said:
side-questions:

What do you guys pick up now?

Do you completely ignore all blues?

Does anyone craft anymore?

Is a rare considered crap if it has just one stat that's off?
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For me :

I pick all blues and yellows, mostly to build a gold pile. If I have a full valor stack and the group move fast thru mobs, I ignore blues since it take time to go to town to vendor them.

I don't really craft at all since all IU got was total junk. Drops are plentiful for me so I have a good chance to rid a better items with more properties unless you have exalted items wiht 6 properties plans.

I consider it crap if it has less than 4-5 properties and/or ranges are too low to be worthy.
 
chockomonkey said:
side-questions:

What do you guys pick up now?

Do you completely ignore all blues?

Does anyone craft anymore?

Is a rare considered crap if it has just one stat that's off?
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Picking up everything blue and rare I see to at least vendor. Even forced myself to pick up Zunimassa's Vision. :)
 
Finally found my first set item after the patch.

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These things range in price on the AH like crazy it is hard to get a value.
 
Just bought some gold again , I wasn't expecting there would be a huge wait time (been waiting 2 hours now for it to complete .. says its under review).

Edit : Nevermind just went through.
 
installed 1.0.5. Run Act 1 on MP2 (My monk can't do higher, used to farm Act 3 inferno with 1.0.4 btw), did it three times. All vendor trash, no upgrades.

Uninstalled. What a fail....
 
Crafted my first Infernal Device. Decided to try it on MP7, that was a mistake. I get annihilated in Discord. Trying to deal with both mobs plus all the skeleton adds and avoid all the bats. Ridiculous.

Sucks that I wasted the device. Pretty lame :(
 
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