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Dell U2711

not sure about that one bud, but i think i am buying this monitor today. so cheap, almost 40% off
 
Hmm, well, I'm going to try and order it and see what happens! Doing the currency conversion, this comes out to be around $756 US dollars, which is ridiculous! Thanks for the link, man.
 
If I'm in the market for a monitor with a resolution greater than 1920x1200, does it make any sense to buy a 27" 2560x1440 monitor instead of a 30" 2560x1600 one?

What is the reason people are getting U2711's. Is it the price? If 27" and 30" are almost the same price, is there any point in going with 27"?
 
price is a main factor for me, but if there was a 30" for this price id obviously opt for that. the res wont be too off from a 30", there is only 160 pixel difference between this dell @ 2560x1440 and your standard 30" @ 2560x1600. i cant justify the price difference, for 160 pixels... i personally was going to get the HP zr30w because the u2711 at regular price was about the same... but the fact that this u2711 is on sale for 470 bucks off for like today, and maybe tomorrow only i pulled the trigger..

all prices equal, i think the HP zr30w is a great 30" and priced well, just personally i couldnt justify the $500-600 difference for 160 pixels. for you i think id go 30" because this u2711 isnt this cheap on the dell.com site (assuming your from the states)

edit: if you are planning to run an 8800gtx @ that kinda res, im not sure how well it will run. may need a better video card for res 1920x1200+. i dont think the 768mem on the video card is sufficient for high res gaming
 
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I am in Canada and it sucks not to take advantage of a good deal. Usually it's the people from US who get good deals whereas we get shafted. :p

I've seen a few used 30"-ers selling for $1000-1200, so it's almost the same price as the $800 27". In any case, I'm not really gonna buy any 27" or 30" monitor right now cuz I can't justify paying that much (over $700) for another monitor (I have two 1920x LCDs)... I just really really want one, but I don't _need_ it, so I'll have to keep things as is.

Yeah, I'm not too worried about 8800 GTX and 2560x resolution because it would be mainly for desktop use. I have 1920x monitors and a CRT for gaming, which I do less of now.

I'm just thinking if I ever do go for 27", I'll probably regret not getting 30" and those extra 160 vertical pixels. I value vertical space a lot more than horizontal anyway.
 
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Got my U2711 yesterday (general office/movie/gaming use); my previous panel was a 24" TN and this is my first IPS panel (as well as my first wide gamut display). Initial impressions are pretty favorable - the only real downside is the white glow which was immediately apparent since I use solid black as my desktop background. The graininess is not too noticeable and doesn't bother me personally.

I have to get used to the higher DPI though; I've always complained about monitors with too low a DPI but the U2711 is almost too high. Nothing a little tweaking can't remedy though it made me wonder if I should have gone for a 30" instead - until I realize that I'm pretty much at my limit in terms of panel size and budget.
 
audirs said:
price is a main factor for me, but if there was a 30" for this price id obviously opt for that. the res wont be too off from a 30", there is only 160 pixel difference between this dell @ 2560x1440 and your standard 30" @ 2560x1600. i cant justify the price difference, for 160 pixels... i personally was going to get the HP zr30w because the u2711 at regular price was about the same... but the fact that this u2711 is on sale for 470 bucks off for like today, and maybe tomorrow only i pulled the trigger..

all prices equal, i think the HP zr30w is a great 30" and priced well, just personally i couldnt justify the $500-600 difference for 160 pixels. for you i think id go 30" because this u2711 isnt this cheap on the dell.com site (assuming your from the states)

edit: if you are planning to run an 8800gtx @ that kinda res, im not sure how well it will run. may need a better video card for res 1920x1200+. i dont think the 768mem on the video card is sufficient for high res gaming
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Keep in mind that the 30" has 409,600 more pixels than the 27". Or: the 27" is 3.7MP, and the 30" is 4.1MP. Also, the U3011 has a 10-bit panel. The 10-bit panel doesn't mean much if you're just gaming, but for professional work or if you plan to calibrate it's very nice to have.

Not a huge difference like you said, but the difference is definitely there. If you're going for bang for the buck the U2711 definitely wins. Especially since you jumped on the awesome sale right now.

As for me, the U3011 is my next upgrade just as soon as my old Dell 2405FPW dies. Of course, at this rate I'm beginning to think this monitor will last forever. I'm okay with that. :)
 
AgentQ said:
Keep in mind that the 30" has 409,600 more pixels than the 27". Or: the 27" is 3.7MP, and the 30" is 4.1MP. Also, the U3011 has a 10-bit panel. The 10-bit panel doesn't mean much if you're just gaming, but for professional work or if you plan to calibrate it's very nice to have...
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Remember that the U2711 has 12bit gamma correction. A 10 bit monitor means nothing until Windows supports 10bit video. Right now 8 bit is still the max.

The extra real estate is nice but in reality its only an extra 160 pixels vertical. It doesn't matter how many thousands of pixels that means, it is still a visual sliver.
 
Luthorcrow said:
The extra real estate is nice but in reality its only an extra 160 pixels vertical. It doesn't matter how many thousands of pixels that means, it is still a visual sliver.
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Only 160 pixels vertical?

Then 1920x1200 is "only" 120 more pixels vertical than 1080p. And 1080p, something you'll find on 24" LCDs these days, is "only" 280 more pixels vertical than 1280x800, a low resolution for cheap 13" laptops.

Also, 2560x1440 is only 240 more vertical than 1920x1200.

Celerator, Dell has sales like that _regularly_. Their 30" $2000 monitor is actually $1400 every other week or so. No one in their right mind buys anything from Dell for full price, because it's 25%+ more than the promotional price you see all the time.
 
shurcooL said:
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Celerator, Dell has sales like that _regularly_. Their 30" $2000 monitor is actually $1400 every other week or so. No one in their right mind buys anything from Dell for full price, because it's 25%+ more than the promotional price you see all the time.
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Thanks! I'll monitor the monitor prices and hope to get one on sale.
 
Hong Kong Dell is selling U2711 at HK$4,699, that is US$602. Should I get one at this price?
 
Seriously, 240 pixels more is 20% or 1/5 more screen space vertically than 1200 on 1920x1200 monitors. Just visually add 1/5 more space with your hand and you'll quickly see that's not peanuts. Of course, the real deal is full 2560x1600, of which 1600 is a full 1/3 more screen real estate vertically than 1200. But don't think 1/5 isn't noticeable. It is.
 
BE SURE you look at the monitor when you get it and be sure the sparkle impact of the non glare coating is something you can live with. I'm going to call it my #1 (by far) beef with the monitor now having had it for many months. #2 is that the contrast is noticeably worse than PVA - which translates to a more washed out image (but most folks won't notice that unless you have the two side by side). Overall the increased real estate and quality of color makes it an extremely good monitor. Just be sure you can live with the downsides and if you can't that you know that as fast as possible so you can return it.
 
Anemone, I agree. I was being sarcastic. I think 2560x1600 >> 2560x1440 >> 1920x1200 >> 1920x1080.
 
Sorry for taking it as a serious argument :) We have a lot of pages of happy owners of this monitor!
 
Agreed a 30" is naturally better, I almost pulled the trigger on a zr30w, but I mean at 780 cnd, u2711 was a no brainer for me
 
shurcooL said:
Only 160 pixels vertical?

Then 1920x1200 is "only" 120 more pixels vertical than 1080p. And 1080p, something you'll find on 24" LCDs these days, is "only" 280 more pixels vertical than 1280x800, a low resolution for cheap 13" laptops.

Also, 2560x1440 is only 240 more vertical than 1920x1200.

Celerator, Dell has sales like that _regularly_. Their 30" $2000 monitor is actually $1400 every other week or so. No one in their right mind buys anything from Dell for full price, because it's 25%+ more than the promotional price you see all the time.
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It's all about ratio. Counting pixels is not the same thing.

1920x1200 vs 1280vs800 = 37% vertical increase
2560x1600 vs 2560vs1440 = 11% vertical increase

20% or better is getting in the range of a big enough of a visual difference to be meaningful. 11% is barely noticeable. Yes it is a visual sliver. Don't really see why that would be debatable.:confused: When you factor in the price difference it for that visual sliver the value proposition just doesn't seem worth it.
 
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It's all about ratio. Counting pixels is not the same thing.

1920x1200 vs 1280vs800 = 37% vertical increase
2560x1600 vs 2560vs1440 = 11% vertical increase

20% or better is getting in the range of a big enough of a visual difference to be meaningful. 11% is barely noticeable. Yes it is a visual sliver. Don't really see why that would be debatable.:confused: When you factor in the price difference it for that visual sliver the value proposition just doesn't seem worth it.
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1920x1200 vs 1920x1080 is also 11% vertical difference; yet so many people are looking for x1200 monitors over 1080p ones.

I agree that the extra 160 vertical might not be worth it if the 27" monitor is $750 vs. $2000 for a 30" one.

However, when you look at it this way... My current 21-24" monitors are probably worth <$200 each. A 27" monitor is $800. A 30" one can be had for $1000-1400. Either way, it's a shitload of money, and if you're gonna spend $800, why not another couple hundred bucks so that you have the biggest resolution (assuming you only get one large monitor).

Anyway, it's just theory. I'm not getting either 27" or 30" cuz it's too expensive for me. :p
 
Neb said:


640x240 pixels worth of space. Visual sliver, anyone?
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Time to go back and work on your math. What you're showing here is only the corner difference between a 1920x1200 and a 2560x1440. Extend that blue space upward by another 1200 pixels (total 1440) and to the right by another 1920 pixels (total 2560) into an "L" shape, and that's how much more real estate you have on a 2560x1440 vs. a 1920x1200.
 
Let us know where it's manufactured, Allos.

I'm pretty sure Europe and Asia Dell get their panels made from Czech Republic or China, whereas the US gets theirs from Mexico. Consequently, the price of labor might be different.
 
Just got the monitor in last night...setting it up was a bit jarring.

Overall I really do like the monitor, but the anti-glare coating is insane at some times. The white shimmer can be horrendous...

BUT i can live with it considering all the other nice points with the monitor.
 
Is 'white glow' uniform for all IPS monitors without the polarizer or does it differ by individual panel?

I'm looking at my new U2711 straight-on at arms length and the white glow is very noticeable at the corners. It's quite distracting during dark scenes in movies and games and makes me wonder if I have a 'defective' panel with more white glow than typical - especially since few people seem to mention having a problem with it.
 
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Hi all. I joined this forum to ask this question. Thanks for this thread, there is a lot of valuable information in here. I spent the last week reading most of it as I waited for my two U2711's to arrive.

They came in today and the first thing I did (for some reason) was check the revision number. The ones I have are A01. I haven't been able to find any information in the wild to indicate what may be different between A00 and A01. Anyone know?
 
Update: Returning the u2711, one side is tinted blue and the other is slightly red. Second brand new dell that I'll be returning. Will not be buying dell again.

I've been using my new u2711 for a week.

My lcd history:
27" imac - Only had it for a day, IPS shine effect was less noticeable - I think. My flat doesnt have good lighting for glossy displays
24" apple ACD - Perfect LCD, but it's glossy
View sonic VX2025WM SPVA - the display being replaced. I loved this lcd. Blacks were better and there is no IPS shine effect. AG coating was better. It's better than the u2711.
Dell 2408 - had this for 20 days before returning. I would say it had the AG coating. Couldn't calibrate colors properly (why I returned it).
Dell 1706 PVA - Better monitor than the 2711. Less aggressive AG coating.

Overall I'm happy with the 2711. Yes the AG coating is aggressive, but you don't really notice it unless you're looking for it. I'm a graphic designer and deal with a lot of flat colors and it's not really that big of a deal. If there was a 27" non glossy of similar quality with less AG coating I would jump on it.

I have it set up flanked by 2x 17" in portrait and it's a please to work with.

The worse things about it:
- Blacks suck. Especially because of the IPS shine effect.
- AG coating sucks
- sRGB is washed out. Unusable for web design. had to make a custom profile.
 
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Just received it today. Seems like a good upgrade from 2405fpw. Hong Kong's U2711 is indeed Made in China.

Color is a bit bluish, tho... What color settings are you guys using?
 
I've only had mine for a few days. So far only powered up one of my two. I'm doing some experimenting. So far the Adobe RGB seems the best out of the box to my untrained eye. I've downloaded a few icc profiles from the web as well.

Allos said:
Just received it today. Seems like a good upgrade from 2405fpw. Hong Kong's U2711 is indeed Made in China.

Color is a bit bluish, tho... What color settings are you guys using?
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MAKE SURE that you can live with the Antiglare coating. For some of us, the sparkles have gotten unbearable. If you don't return the monitor in the specified time, Dell will not do anything for you. (and they aren't obligated to do so). If you even so much as notice this coating when you get the monitor and think you might not be able to deal with the coating over time, you should exercise your right to return it. Remember at this price you are paying for a premium product. Don't be regretful months later.

Personally having had the monitor since March I am in that boat of regretful. That coating interferes with text in certain color ranges and makes using the monitor next to impossible in some situations. I'm afraid I can't recommend this as anything more than a defective monitor and that folks should avoid it.
 
Wow. I don't have the U2711, but I do own the 3008WFP which some say is comparable (or worse) in terms of AG. I notice the coating if I try, but I'm not bothered by it because otherwise the monitor is completely awesome. In no way has the AG coating made using my monitor "completely unusable" in any situation, but perhaps I'm less picky than some? To me, it's a minor annoyance at worst. I wouldn't trade this monitor for anything other than the HP ZR30w (no scaler, no thanks) or the U3011 (cheaper looking and much more expensive). I won't say that people make too big of a deal out of the AG coating since everyone is bothered by different things, but I've used a ton of monitors without it and it has never bothered me to the point of sending this unit back.
 
We all have different sensitivities I'm sure. However there is a lot of comments all around here and on the web that the AG coating is horrendous. For me I'm nearly ready to dump the thing in the trashbin.

You get a month to decide for yourself, and that is a truly great feature of Dell. Just be sure, very, very sure, that you are ok with the thing before you keep it. Some love it and some of us hate them. Be sure you are happy with what you spent. These things should be perfect at this pricepoint, imo, and they are far, far from it.
 
Can you post a screenshot or point me to an address where I can see an example of text that is interfered with by the AG?

Anemone said:
MAKE SURE that you can live with the Antiglare coating. For some of us, the sparkles have gotten unbearable. If you don't return the monitor in the specified time, Dell will not do anything for you. (and they aren't obligated to do so). If you even so much as notice this coating when you get the monitor and think you might not be able to deal with the coating over time, you should exercise your right to return it. Remember at this price you are paying for a premium product. Don't be regretful months later.

Personally having had the monitor since March I am in that boat of regretful. That coating interferes with text in certain color ranges and makes using the monitor next to impossible in some situations. I'm afraid I can't recommend this as anything more than a defective monitor and that folks should avoid it.
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