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[metallicafan]

Nice Work guys! Looks like we got a nice boost in the SIMAP project!

Is anyone working on RC5-72? I was just over in the Video Card sub forum and I saw a couple guys talking about a Nvidia client for that project.

EDIT: Looks like the team only has 2 members on that project.
http://stats.distributed.net/team/tmember.php?project_id=8&team=24958
I'l look into the GPU client a little more.

 

[alan2308]

Nice Work guys! Looks like we got a nice boost in the SIMAP project!

Is anyone working on RC5-72? I was just over in the Video Card sub forum and I saw a couple guys talking about a Nvidia client for that project.

I was on the site a while ago and the last WU we had was in 2003.

 

[alan2308]

Another great update overnight. We're up 3 more places to #86. Although it looks like we're loosing ground in Einstein@Home on every update. I'll grab a couple units to see if I can help stop the bleeding there.

ABC up 7 places
Cosmology up 38 places
POEM up 1 place
QMC up 7 places
Rectilinear up 8 places
SHA-1 up 1 place
uFluids up 10 places
yoyo up 10 places

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Another great update overnight. We're up 3 more places to #86. Although it looks like we're loosing ground in Einstein@Home on every update. I'll grab a couple units to see if I can help stop the bleeding there.

Yeah I have been watching us slip there to. I been trying to put my efforts elsewhere until the GPU-Einstein comes out then make my big push there.
I'll try to find a spot on a proc to throw in a few units when I can to help.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

EulerNet was added and updated in the DC-Vault.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

id help else where but i dont want to spread all my systems thin.. plus going between WCG and the 100+ hour seti projects.. i think ill just stick with what im at right now.. seti seems to of run out of GPU projects..

 

[alan2308]

id help else where but i dont want to spread all my systems thin.. plus going between WCG and the 100+ hour seti projects.. i think ill just stick with what im at right now.. seti seems to of run out of GPU projects..

If SETI units take too long for your liking, the SHA-1 Collision Search units clock in at just under 30 minutes.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

hmm might have to try that.. i just hate watching boinc bounce around between WCG projects and Seti.. takes about a week to finish 1 seti project.. makes me feel so useless dedicating 1 core to a single project for over 100 hours.. not to mention out of the 12 gpu seti projects all of them errored out except 2 for a whole 14 points total..

 

[alan2308]

That's why I stopped SETI after a couple units. I managed to finish the couple GPU-SETI units I grabbed, but the points to time spent ratio just didn't add up. And the non-GPU units take so long I was going to miss deadlines if
I didn't suspend other projects. So on each of my boxen, I stick to 2 projects except for ones that have GPU's, then I do 2 projects + GPUGRID. But which 2 varies box to box and changes depending on what I see on our Vault page each day.


Also, remember you can set your resource share to like 20 on a second project so WCG gets most of the CPU time. You can also switch a unit to "Allow new tasks," grab a unit or two and then switch it back to "no new tasks" once a week or so.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

hmm might have to try that.. i just hate watching boinc bounce around between WCG projects and Seti.. takes about a week to finish 1 seti project.. makes me feel so useless dedicating 1 core to a single project for over 100 hours.. not to mention out of the 12 gpu seti projects all of them errored out except 2 for a whole 14 points total..

I get done about 400 GPU-Seti's a day with 3 video cards, 1 8800 GTS full time and my 2 GTX 260's run through 200 in about 8 hours then I switch them over to the GPUGRID.
I have complained about the 01Nov08 projects not running on Cuda and it looks like they have pulled them or else they have finished them.
I haven't had any problems with any of the others except 1 or 2 in every 400 units will compute and error.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=50937&nowrap=true#849601

 

[sirmonkey1985]

i got those 12 initial gpu projects and then nothing ever since.. but oh well.. i wonder though what a 100 hour project would be worth on WCG's point system since they are worth 700+ on seti.. gotta be some where around 2k WCG points..

 

[alan2308]

Another reason why I don't worry about SETI is we have 9,920 points out of a possible 10,000. To get from #437 all the way up to #1 is way too much work for the remaining possible 80 points. I can single handedly get us twice that many points in one day elsewhere.

We just need to get GPUGRID on the Vault and get GPU enable Einstein going. And I need to finally get PS3GRID going on my PS3.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Yeah I agree that the Seti cpu projects are not worth it compared to what can be accomplished elsewhere with the cpu ie. WCG.
I earn about 10k Seti points per day with the GPU projects and I can run cpu units from other projects along side the GPU-Seti units so I think it works pretty good for me.
I always keep to cards running FAH 24/7 so as not to fall behind on production so I think I have created a pretty good balance.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

i still wish boinc didnt require it to use a cpu core along with the gpu project.. just feels like a big waste of resources.. and it doesnt even use a full core.. only about 30-40% of it..

 

[alan2308]

Does anyone look at their "Your Account" page at the project sites? I've been sending PM's to some active producers on SETI and Einstein that I haven't seen here before. I was just curious if anyone ever went there and would ever see a PM.

 

[alan2308]

i still wish boinc didnt require it to use a cpu core along with the gpu project.. just feels like a big waste of resources.. and it doesnt even use a full core.. only about 30-40% of it..

I'm running 2 CPU units and a GPUGRID unit all at once on a dual core. The GPUGRID unit claims it uses 4% of one core.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

I suspend all projects but the GPU project that I want to run and download and start the GPU units, then I change under preferences to use only 99.99% of the cpu cores and go start cpu projects to run until my cpu usage is just under 100% so I don't get any slow downs.

I check my Your Account pages about every 1-2 hours on just about all the projects I'm in.
I may not be looking for a PM there though unless I have sent some one something in the forum.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

how do you set it to allow 2 cpu projects and a gpu project to run? because everytime a gpu project runs it takes away 1 of my cpu cores to run that gpu project as well..

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Well in my case I have a duel core and run 2 GPU and 1 cpu project together (2+1).
Start with use 100% of cores to get the GPU units, let those 2 start and then switch to 99.99% cores used and start 1 cpu project.
I can start 2 CPU project along side the 2 GPU units (2+2) but it slows everything way down.
Then when I need to get more GPU units I suspend all CPU stuff and set usage to 100% of cores, download the 2 gpu units and start again by lowering usage to 99.99 and start up a project of cpu units which it will run 1 of at a time since Boinc is set not to use both cores.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

yeah it does.. thanks.. ill have to try that. i currently run 2 dual cores and a bunch of single core systems but only this one has a cuda enabled gfx card in it..

 

[metallicafan]

yeah my CPU clients really slowed down when I added a GPUGRID client in with 2x WCG clients. It still probably comes out with more points in the long run but ???

On a good note I started turning in WUs from ABC@home, and Im still going strong on SHA-1. I might add one more Math project as it seems we have a ton of potential points there. I see we slipped one spot in the rankings on the last update. Time to get that one back!

 

[Jathanis]

Unfortunately, I was down to just starting up a 1.4 Ghz Pentium M over the 4 day weekend (my work lets me run my computer Mon-Fri, but shuts the whole network down for weekend maintenance & updates), so I had almost no production... now the work one is back up Mon 8AM - Fri 5PM, plus the lappy is almost done with a monster Primegrid unit that should be worth major pernts... and as soon as newegg finishes my RMA, my dual core will be back in action, too. Since I'm an engineer by day, the math projects interest me the most - Hopefully once I'm fully up and running, I can help hold the ground there.

Any luck with that Athlon, Alan? I thought I'd get to mine over the weekend, but the wife had other ideas involving 2 5-gallon buckets of paint...

 

[alan2308]

Not yet, but I have some $$$ today, so I get to do a little shopping. Most of it will be for upping my storage, but some "D" as well.

 

[nomad8u]

Some nice movement going on in the Vault standings. It's great seeing our name in all those daily updates on the forum too.

It looks like SIMAP is out of work until February 1st. I've disconnected two clients from it for now and added in Spinhenge and SZATAKI to give them a boost.

The Project List is back up to date I think. A lot of new adds I see. Somebody has been busy the past several days.. I'm seriously sleep deprived the past 6 days so check the list over. LMK if you see any major goofs. I'll be verifying it all again when I get time.

 

[alan2308]

It looks like SIMAP is out of work until February 1st.

Seriously, these guys can't put more than a weeks worth of work into the queue at a time?

I also just realized today that I haven't done any work for Rectilinear Crossing. How'd that happen?

 

[metallicafan]

Unfortunately, I was down to just starting up a 1.4 Ghz Pentium M over the 4 day weekend (my work lets me run my computer Mon-Fri, but shuts the whole network down for weekend maintenance & updates), so I had almost no production... now the work one is back up Mon 8AM - Fri 5PM, plus the lappy is almost done with a monster Primegrid unit that should be worth major pernts... and as soon as newegg finishes my RMA, my dual core will be back in action, too. Since I'm an engineer by day, the math projects interest me the most - Hopefully once I'm fully up and running, I can help hold the ground there.

Any luck with that Athlon, Alan? I thought I'd get to mine over the weekend, but the wife had other ideas involving 2 5-gallon buckets of paint...

I'll take all the help I can get down there in the Math area. Im currently running SHA-1, ABC, and I just started a RC5-72 client, so we will see how that goes.

By the look of the last update it looks like some of you guys are hammering the Physical Science projects. We are seeing some big results up there. Keep up the good work!

10 gallons of paint in a weekend? Man I think my arm would fall off. Did the project turn out good?

 

[alan2308]

I'll take all the help I can get down there in the Math area. Im currently running SHA-1, ABC, and I just started a RC5-72 client, so we will see how that goes.

I just had a big dump of SHA-1 units on one box, and I've got some Rectilinear Collision and SZTAKI going on another. But getting RC5-72 back going after 6 years idle should help a lot there.

You know, besides all the heavy hitters on WCG and SETI, there's only 7 of us in the Commandos. Not bad for such a small band of rebels, huh?

 

[Razor_FX_II]

I just had a big dump of SHA-1 units on one box, and I've got some Rectilinear Collision and SZTAKI going on another. But getting RC5-72 back going after 6 years idle should help a lot there.

You know, besides all the heavy hitters on WCG and SETI, there's only 7 of us in the Commandos. Not bad for such a small band of rebels, huh?

I may just let you guys tear up SZTAKI, it doesn't seem to like to run at 4+ghz stable.
I haven't quit got that one figured out yet, tried softer timings on the memory but that didn't seem to help.
I get real erratic speeds out of it at best, and it doesn't seem to like to place nice with other projects for me.

The heavy hitters in Seti aren't hitting very [H]ard lately, I have the number 1 RAC on our Seti team now.
I don't think they have realized yet that the work can be done on a GPU.

 

[metallicafan]

Not bad indeed. Seven of us taking on the Empire!

I was thinking that once the dust settles here and we chip away a little more at some of these smaller projects - maybe we could recruit some more help from the Horde for a project or two. Maybe have a "raiding party" on one project for like a week or a month. See if we can get a big jump in a project or two.

I mean right now with just the 7 of us we are 42nd in the SHA-1 project as far as recent credit goes. With a little help from the Horde we could probably jump to the Top 10 or better in RAC.

Just a thought. Let me know what you think.

 

[Kendrak]

Not bad indeed. Seven of us taking on the Empire!

I was thinking that once the dust settles here and we chip away a little more at some of these smaller projects - maybe we could recruit some more help from the Horde for a project or two. Maybe have a "raiding party" on one project for like a week or a month. See if we can get a big jump in a project or two.

I mean right now with just the 7 of us we are 42nd in the SHA-1 project as far as recent credit goes. With a little help from the Horde we could probably jump to the Top 10 or better in RAC.

Just a thought. Let me know what you think.

I'll ponder that for myself.

I'm not running a single CPU client on any boxen.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

I agree, the work that the commandos has done is really having a big impact and with a little help and a well thought out attack plan we could do some major damage out there.

 

[Jathanis]

10 gallons of paint in a weekend? Man I think my arm would fall off. Did the project turn out good?

It's getting there - I bought one of those $50 power rollers at Home Depot, and it makes things so much easier! We realized that one part on the living room was way too tall for the ladders we have, so there's about 3 gallons left to hit the top part...

I'll ponder that for myself.

I'm not running a single CPU client on any boxen.

Hey, new recruit! Can't just let those CPU's sit around, now, can we?

I agree, the work that the commandos has done is really having a big impact and with a little help and a well thought out attack plan we could do some major damage out there.

I noticed on some of the forums, such as #1 Ars Technica, they have done the research to determine which projects need fast CPUs, which work fine on Pentium 3s, etc, so yeah, a good attack plan is what we'll need to work on tackling the heavy hitters - but we got time, let's enjoy knocking off the easier ones for a bit before the real work begins

 

[alan2308]

I noticed on some of the forums, such as #1 Ars Technica, they have done the research to determine which projects need fast CPUs, which work fine on Pentium 3s, etc, so yeah, a good attack plan is what we'll need to work on tackling the heavy hitters - but we got time, let's enjoy knocking off the easier ones for a bit before the real work begins

Nice that they did all the RnD for us.

 

[alan2308]

The heavy hitters in Seti aren't hitting very [H]ard lately, I have the number 1 RAC on our Seti team now.
I don't think they have realized yet that the work can be done on a GPU.

With SETI it is more about the points that were already on the board when we started (and didn't even know about at first ). 9,920 points in the Vault isn't anything to sneeze at. I've tried contacting a number of the SETI and Einstein guys, but nothing so far.

 

[Tobit]

I have a single core P4 (3GHz) currently running F@H but it sure is slow. Would there be a project better suited to this CPU? I'm quite confused by the number of projects out there these days.

 

[alan2308]

I have a single core P4 (3GHz) currently running F@H but it sure is slow. Would there be a project better suited to this CPU? I'm quite confused by the number of projects out there these days.

That CPU would do quite well on a number of different alternative projects. If you're interested in looking at some projects, my thread here lists out every project that we have a known presence in, and in the second post of that thread, I have links to descriptions of what most of those projects are all about. We're here to answer any questions that you have about any of them, many of us have done work for just about everything on the list.

We'll try to steer you towards a project tracked by the DC-Vault so your work will help our overall standing, but its your box, and as long as its crunching something under the [H]orde banner, we'll gladly take whatever contribution you can make.

 

[Tobit]

We'll try to steer you towards a project tracked by the DC-Vault so your work will help our overall standing, but its your box, and as long as its crunching something under the [H]orde banner, we'll gladly take whatever contribution you can make.

Would the SHA-1 project be a good choice for my single core P4?

 

[metallicafan]

Well to be fair I have never tried this project with a P4, BUT the WUs are small on the SHA-1 project. Using one core of my 2.4GHz Athlon X2 a single WU takes about 28 - 32 minutes. I would think that a P4 that is 600MHz faster would be fairly close in performance. I have a couple machines on that project right now so if you have any questions, fire away.

Thanks for helping out! Go Horde!

 

[alan2308]

Would the SHA-1 project be a good choice for my single core P4?

I would say definitely. As metallicafan said, they're nice small units, but still have a nice 10 day deadline. Primegrid units are about the same except a 7 day deadline. And I started on SIMAP with a trio of Pentium 3's.

One thing I've learned about these smaller projects though, is always have a backup project ready to go. Many of them run out of work occasionally.

 

[Tobit]

K, thanks guys. I will start SHA-1 on this box in about 15 hours when this chewy FAH Gromacs finishes.