CS_S is so fake :(

HighwayAssassins said:
thats why it says "part of the skill of the game"...its a game, people should take it as such
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Its not skill, its just stupid. Games like Rogue Spear, MOH:AA, Raven Shield all have burst options. Real life: If you were in a fire fight and had the option to switch to burst mode or use skill, you would be a dumb ass to use skill. Thats like picking up a butter knife instead of a sword before engaging in a sword fight. DUR.

Its not because its a game, its because CS creators have probably never shot a real rifle before. There is no reason to have a BURST FIRE skill. They're even stupid enough to fuck up the reload animation on the M-16.
 
tgillespie said:
Its not skill, its just stupid. Games like Rogue Spear, MOH:AA, Raven Shield all have burst options. Real life: If you were in a fire fight and had the option to switch to burst mode or use skill, you would be a dumb ass to use skill. Thats like picking up a butter knife instead of a sword before engaging in a sword fight. DUR.

Its not because its a game, its because CS creators have probably never shot a real rifle before. There is no reason to have a BURST FIRE skill. They're even stupid enough to fuck up the reload animation on the M-16.
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But in the end... it's still a game. It's goal was never realism but fun. So rather then pick apart the reload animations just play the game.
 
Whatsisname said:
Also, have YOU ever seen the rounds from an AK47? They are tiny compared to handgun or hunting rounds :rolleyes:. And they do not rip your bones apart, they are designed to wound.

For your stupidity, you deserve death.
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I love it how everyone who plays Counter-Strike is a self-styled firearms expert.

A few things you have wrong:

- 7.62x39mm bullets are the same diameter as a .30 caliber rifle slug. 7.62mm is the most popular caliber for hunting, and is larger than .22 and .25 caliber pistol bullets.

- 7.62mm (in any load configuration) will shatter bone on impact. If you recall that shootout between police and bank robbers in North Hollywood in '97 where the masked gunmen were armed with AK-47's and a G3A3. One cop was shot through his cruiser from a few hundred yards away in the knee and it shattered his leg and nearly severed it.

Make no mistake, ammunition is made to cause death. If you cripple a man in a combat situation he can and will still kill you.
 
Vulcanus said:
I thought AK-47 used 7.62x39mm?
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It does. 7.62x54mm is what the the Soviets designed for the Dragunov sniper rifle. That's a hot round, and AFAIK has never been used in an assault rifle.
 
m4's 5.56 is .233 and ak47 7.62 is .303 or .333 forget which. Just a conversion note. I'm a cs player, hardcore to the point of depression for others :) I play in cal, which is a competeditive league(cuz its fun...) the whole spray thing is probebly due to lag, because the netcode(which compensates for the lag) prolly isn't opitimized yet for CS:s, but it could also just be poor recoil control...good players can hose 10-15 ak shots to the chest/neckshoulders/head area, thats just for those of us who have played this game WAY to much. Its frusterating though, I know I've dumped off half a clip of good grouping rounds from every gun and they walk away with "JUST A FLESH WOUND!"
 
no, 5.56 and .223 are different. You can shoot 5.56 in a .223 chamber, but probably not vice versa. as 5.56 is actually .218

And also, CS:S plays wierd. As in it feels like your gliding all over the place and everyone looks like they're a hunchback.
 
Vulcanus said:
everyone looks like they're a hunchback.
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That's from poor posture and a lack of calcium when young :p

They were too busy eating virtual lead to care about anything else
 
Anyone who complains about CS:S gameplay should really just shutup, nothing has really changed its all the same as its ever been and all you people are arguing about CS issues that have been around forever.

On a different note, i personally cannot stand how the terrorists look, all hunched over and such.
 
The Bush Administration probably made Valve model the terrorists like that because of the surely crippling burden of hatred towards freedom and democracy that they all bear.
 
wow now we have to bring politics into it. This should flame well. I'm withholding :)
 
Nice thing about CS:S is you can bring up the console and it'll tell you exactly who you have hit, how many times, and how much damage you did to them, and vice versa.
 
Stanley Pain said:
Nice thing about CS:S is you can bring up the console and it'll tell you exactly who you have hit, how many times, and how much damage you did to them, and vice versa.
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yea thats probably my favorite feature in CS now...
 
Labrador said:
you guys need to get a life :rolleyes: Whats the big frigging deal, so I like to get responses from different people on my topics.

when you have a statement or question , you dont just tell it to one group, you mention it to co-workers, family, friends, school, etc.. thats what I did, just want more people to respond
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<cough> self demying troll <cough> Hmm? What? :cool:

Don't like it, don't play it... But it sure as heck ain't new and it's most definitely not changing.
 
Labrador said:
Man this game just pissed me off for the last time. I just unloaed almost a full clip from the AK47, and the enemy was right in front of me, like 5feet away, and then he shoots me twice and I die WTF ?

Dude, have you ever seen the bullets of an AK47 there a friggin huge, and will rip your bones apart, unless the guy I shot had some force field on from StarTek, that I couldnt buy in the menu, I call BuIIsh!t

Why when I throw grenades at an enemy it doesnt even kill them, but does like 50% damage WTF .
I have heard of stories that nades will blow your limbs off, and either kill you, or bleed ya to death, But in this game it's like flowers burst out of them ?

I am not saying this game should be as realistic as Ghost Recon, but come one, why have weapons modeled after the real thing, but dont act like they relly would ?

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Just for the record, when I play, I am always in the top 3 with alot of kills, so I dont suck in the game, I am actually pretty good. I just get mad when I shoot at people, then they kill me with 1 shot form a pistol 100feet away, and when dead i check their health and it is still 100hp.

I would just like the game to more like that wicked game Global Op's, a great concept just a bad game engine. It was more realistic than CounterStrike, but NOT so crazy real as Ghost Recon. It was right in the middle, real enough to be fun, but not too slow and camping
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Got lag?
 
Stanley Pain said:
Nice thing about CS:S is you can bring up the console and it'll tell you exactly who you have hit, how many times, and how much damage you did to them, and vice versa.
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It's called /statsme.
 
Counterstrike has always been like this. I thought they were going to at least fix the following problems in the new version:

1. when you bump into another person, your screen starts stuttering like crazy instead of just bumping away from them or running next to them
2. when you shoot a gun while running, the bullets spray in a circle around your cross-hairs as opposed to randomly, thus the only way you can hit somebody while running is to aim just below them... then you hit them every time:p
3. thrown grenades tend to float, bouncing off walls with perfect elasticity... maybe they didn't put 9.81 in for the acceleration of gravity

and a bunch of other stuff I can't think of at the moment
 
I'm not sure the bump thing isn't intentional... the way 'nades tend to float more than fall has always been a bit goofy but 'nades in general are just there for variety and to change the initial dynamics of a firefight, not as an essential part or damage dealing element.
 
i hardly believe that. flash and smokes nades are NEEDED. they do a lot more for the game than simply 'add variety'
 
Maybe I worded it wrong, wha I meant to say was it really doesn't matter how well their flight is modeled s'long as you're able to land 'em where needed with reasonable accurancy... imo. /shrug
 
Labrador said:
Man this game just pissed me off for the last time. I just unloaed almost a full clip from the AK47, and the enemy was right in front of me, like 5feet away, and then he shoots me twice and I die WTF ?

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U suk
 
Labrador, don't mash the trigger. If you fire in short controlled bursts your fire will be MUCH more accurate. In all actuallity that is realistic. I have an assault rifle, and although it does not fire full auto bursts (SKS) It have noticed a SHARP DROP in accuracy when i fire very rapidly. So next time your using the AK, fire one or two bullets at a time and when you do , try aiming at the head.

CSS owns, i get so tired of the CS community, whenever their is an update of anykind everybody bitches and moans like a bunch of moany bitches. If you hate CSS so much, don't ever play it again, and don't ever post about it ever again.

PS , you aren't really any good at CS.
 
The AK is the worst/last rifle you'd want to hold the trigger on. How bad? I was aiming at the guys feet, the bullet went through his head :p If you want stable guns, take the CT side, you can hold down the trigger on all their guns and you'd still get tighter groupings ;)
 
Sly said:
The AK is the worst/last rifle you'd want to hold the trigger on. How bad? I was aiming at the guys feet, the bullet went through his head :p If you want stable guns, take the CT side, you can hold down the trigger on all their guns and you'd still get tighter groupings ;)
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But then anyone with an inkling of skill can one shot you in the head with an AK. The M4 only does 80-84 dmg per bullet to the head.
 
you have to realize CS is a RJS, run, jump and shoot, it is not meant to be realistic in any way.

its more like a Lambourgini clone, chevy internals, Lam outside. CS looks like something like RvS, but plays like UT or Quake.
 
Craftish said:
There is a reason Counter-Strike is the most popular online action game, and if you cannot find it, then simply don't play.
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1) CS plays well on slower hardware...
2) script kiddies can play it on older hardware...
3) script kiddies don't always have the better hardware (see #1)


I used to play it...alot. And got fairly decent. the CHEATS ruined it for me, I cannot stand cheaters in online play. I quit playing it in disgust, and I am sorry to say, I won't be playing it much with the new prettier version either.

That's my opinion, no flaming, if you like it, great! Have a blast! That's all that matters...

I personally LOVE the original Ghost Recon. Very challenging. I loved owning the script kiddies. I also liked Thief, the original HL, and Quake1. But I digress....

*puts thread back on topic*
 
tgillespie said:
But the fact of the matter is that real guns have a burst selector switch. No one puts their M-16 on full auto and then tries to fire it in burst mode.
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.. The M16 doesn't have a burst selector switch..
The M16A2 doesn't have a full auto switch.
The M4A1 doesn't have a burst switch..

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The AK47 doesn't have a burst selector switch either.
 
The problem with CS is that I never could tell whether someone was cheating or whether the game was just unrealistic. Seeing people consistantly get one-shot kills with an SMG from sixty yards out makes you wonder...
 
Who said it was supposed to be totally realistic?

By the way, you're a scrub.
 
the M4 is a full auto gun, and there is no M16 in CS.

The game is a game, take it or leave it. if u want realism go play america's army. CS is arcade.
 
Counter-Strike is about nothing more then meeting and annoying people in chat between rounds. If you are playing it and having fun, but not at least annoying one person or making a fool of yourself across the world in the chat between rounds, you are in violation and must not continue to play. The only way you can get around this minimum requirement is to human shield your teammates or purposefully run away and hide on the map and then taunt about them not being able to find you. Yes thats right, CS is about annoying people, not fun. I know, I've been playing it since first beta. How people turned it into some kind of popular FPS, I don't know... :p
 
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