CS_S is so fake :(

to be honest, I never played the original CS. The only reason I was wanting to play the new CS is b/c it looked pretty damned cool.

But I'm a realism guy, which is why I like games like Ghost Recon, Ravenshield, COD, etc...

But I'd still like to play it to see what it's all about. Arcade shooters can be fun too...hell, look at Doom3...enable the cheats and it's the perfect way to ease some stress with some mindless shooting and blood spray :p

btw...I haven't checked yet but is there a demo of the new CS or HL2 out yet?
 
Labrador said:
Just for the record, when I play, I am always in the top 3 with alot of kills, so I dont suck in the game, I am actually pretty good. I just get mad when I shoot at people, then they kill me with 1 shot form a pistol 100feet away, and when dead i check their health and it is still 100hp.

I would just like the game to more like that wicked game Global Op's, a great concept just a bad game engine. It was more realistic than CounterStrike, but NOT so crazy real as Ghost Recon. It was right in the middle, real enough to be fun, but not too slow and camping
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Rofl, what is "top 3" a 30-34 record or something? From the way you're complaining about the game, I assume that it is.

First off, ak in cs has one of the toughest recoils to handle, but if you do get the hang of it, it is one of the most accurate weapons. You cannot unload a clip into someone, unless you know how to handle your spray or burst. About the whole nade thing, this is a GAME, and CS is not designed for nades to have one hit kills. The maps in cs are way smaller than other maps in other games, so think of how nade spamming and chokepoints would do to the game.

Secondly, if you want more "realism" I suggest playing other games. I also suggest that you stay away from 95% of the games out there, as most of them aren't "realistic". Btw, maybe I should start complaining about how my guy can't kill someone with a simple ax to the head or why this laser can't kill this guy...
 
I've been playing cs for like 4 years :p anways a lot of those "wtf omg *** *** *****" moments are due to your rates and the quality of the server. I haven't installed source yet as i am not at home but if the netcode is anything like 1.6 you should try "rate 20000, cl_cmdrate 101, cl_updaterate 101" Also the server rates make a big difference, most servers dont run at a high frame rate to begin with and their max rate and updaterate is pretty low. But yeah the game is pretty random, but its the #1 online action game for a reason :p
 
nst6563 said:
to be honest, I never played the original CS. The only reason I was wanting to play the new CS is b/c it looked pretty damned cool.

But I'm a realism guy, which is why I like games like Ghost Recon, Ravenshield, COD, etc...

But I'd still like to play it to see what it's all about. Arcade shooters can be fun too...hell, look at Doom3...enable the cheats and it's the perfect way to ease some stress with some mindless shooting and blood spray :p

btw...I haven't checked yet but is there a demo of the new CS or HL2 out yet?
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I think including CoD in that group of realistic games is a bit of a stretch.
 
Warmonkey said:
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CS is not real, it is a game. Enjoy it, or don't play it.
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amen brother.. amen.

and this holds true for any GAME.

And for the "realism" folks - have you every fired and AK47 or an M4 / M16 or any of the "weapons" in CS? The AK is a POS that packs a punch - it's not accurate at all in other than single fire mode - even in controlled bursts your second and third rounds are no where near where round 1 went. but when it hits, damn....

Remember, it's a GAME - have FUN and blow stuff up.

(oh, and yes, the 'nades in CS are no where near what a real 'nade can do 18m kill radius... I think they did a .18m in CS)

Peace,
Tim
 
If you would like to try a realism based mod that set the standard try Infiltration. Although it's based on the UT'99 engine the realism is palpable, it is also realisticly slow and rewards those with proper tactics. See more at infiltration.sentrystudios.net the game is free all you need is UT and you are ready to go. don't go asking for a crosshair though

As for me CS:S plays exactly as I expected it to, a fun arcady FPS.
 
Bane said:
I think including CoD in that group of realistic games is a bit of a stretch.
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True...but it does allow you to prone/crouch/etc...and you can't take too many bullets before you croak...that or I just plain suck :p

Not sure what everyone else's definition of "Arcade style fps" is, but when I hear arcade style, I think of the big quarter munching machines...where they do have limited movement but are fast paced...
 
Labrador said:
Any other new game allows you to set your rate of fire, you can have Auto, Burst or Single. Why CS_S doesnt have that and a prone position is beyond me ? A single fire shot is my favorite in RavenShield
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Learning to burst is part of the skill of the game
 
Just to let everyone know 3-4 of you have no damn clue what your talking about when it comes to wound ballstics so keep quite.
 
go get ravenshield. stop playing cs.

cs:s is cs on a new engine. what did you expect?
 
Alex A. said:
Just to let everyone know 3-4 of you have no damn clue what your talking about when it comes to wound ballstics so keep quite.
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hahah. i'd wager to say closer to 9/10. anyone who argues taking a 45 slug dead in the chest is no big deal because it 'came from a pistol' makes me laugh.
 
ive seen a 22 and a 223, so i think i know just about all there is to know about guns/bullets, ok buddy? Ive even shot a shotgun in boy scouts. GOD
 
HighwayAssassins said:
ive seen a 22 and a 223, so i think i know just about all there is to know about guns/bullets, ok buddy? Ive even shot a shotgun in boy scouts. GOD
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you forgot the [/sarcasm] tag ;)
 
Kevlar does do alot in this game. A single shot to the head would have killed the guy...
 
HighwayAssassins said:
ive seen a 22 and a 223, so i think i know just about all there is to know about guns/bullets, ok buddy? Ive even shot a shotgun in boy scouts. GOD
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i hope you're joking.
 
Whatsisname said:
*magazine

*they're

Also, have YOU ever seen the rounds from an AK47? They are tiny compared to handgun or hunting rounds :rolleyes:. And they do not rip your bones apart, they are designed to wound.

For your stupidity, you deserve death.
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Yeah im wondering the same about you, teh AK-47 was orginally chamebered in 7.62x54R, that is the russian equivalent of the american/Nato 7.62 (.308) calibre bullet which coincidentally is used for hunting, and how can you even compare pistol rounds to rifle... the AK didnt get its round reduced until 1974 when they switched to the shorter and smaller in diameter 5.5mm(5.45mm) projectile... after the Nato countries switched to the 5.5mm ammo as well, the genereal issue russian ammo will break bones and will tear your ass up its one of the highest and fastest tumbling projectiles designed so far.. it is designed with an air bubble in the nose of the lead behind the jacketing, when fired the lead heats up and turns more or less liquid, upon impacting a target the Lead shifts forward causing the projectile to become severly unstable. this projectile tumbles, from what i remember, between 2 and 3 times more than the equivalent Nato ammunition...Oh Btw i have one, and 3 Mosin Nagants, and a SKS (Yugo).


oh but Ontopic, yeah most games do that like was already said when your Lagging.



when it comes to realism "Americas Army> all others" they actually had a Ballistics and weapons specialist revamp their entire virtual arsenal...among other things..
 
HighwayAssassins said:
ive seen a 22 and a 223, so i think i know just about all there is to know about guns/bullets, ok buddy? Ive even shot a shotgun in boy scouts. GOD
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I was in Boy Scouts also and I can easily say that you learn probably about 1% of all there is to know about guns/shotguns.

That statement was horrible.
 
d34dly said:
I was in Boy Scouts also and I can easily say that you learn probably about 1% of all there is to know about guns/shotguns.

That statement was horrible.
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dude, "Always treat a gun as if its loaded"...see, i knew that from memory...i know everything about guns. ive even touched an AR-15 dude....
 
HighwayAssassins said:
dude, "Always treat a gun as if its loaded"...see, i knew that from memory...i know everything about guns. ive even touched an AR-15 dude....
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Holy crap... I can't believe you are basing your experience in Boy Scouts as the reason for your vast knowledge of guns. I am not saying you don't know what your talking about... but I am saying that Boy Scouts teach you basics. I know... I finished and got my Eagle.

And the little safety quote... good for you. That's common sense that I hope EVERYONE would remember.
 
d34dly said:
Holy crap... I can't believe you are basing your experience in Boy Scouts as the reason for your vast knowledge of guns. I am not saying you don't know what your talking about... but I am saying that Boy Scouts teach you basics. I know... I finished and got my Eagle.

And the little safety quote... good for you. That's common sense that I hope EVERYONE would remember.
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i think he's joking. i can't fathom him being serious about those comments. if he is however... i don't know what to say :confused:
 
HighwayAssassins said:
ive seen a 22 and a 223, so i think i know just about all there is to know about guns/bullets, ok buddy? Ive even shot a shotgun in boy scouts. GOD
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heh. i love my life.
 
d34dly said:
And the little safety quote... good for you. That's common sense that I hope EVERYONE would remember.
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i disagree. i think a lot of people should not only not know basic gun safety- that they should also test to see if the gun is loaded by eyeing the barrel.
 
Cigolon said:
i disagree. i think a lot of people should not only not know basic gun safety- that they should also test to see if the gun is loaded by eyeing the barrel.
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careful how you word that...people are dumb enough to look down the WRONG END!

Maybe instead of eyeing the barrel, say check the chamber. That's where the action starts after all (after the brain impulse sends the signal to the finger to pull the trigger of course). :p
 
nst6563 said:
careful how you word that...people are dumb enough to look down the WRONG END!

Maybe instead of eyeing the barrel, say check the chamber. That's where the action starts after all (after the brain impulse sends the signal to the finger to pull the trigger of course). :p
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no no. i was careful with my wording. i ment barrel. :)
 
dude i like once watch a movie and like this guy had this gun, i think... maybe it was a sandwich... but i know like sooooOoooOoo much because i play CS and use the internet! DO NOT QUESTION ME!
 
I thought AK-47 used 7.62x39mm?

Anyways, 7.62mm doesn't seem like much, but they travel a fair bit faster than handgun ammo so they don't need to be .357/.38/.40/.45/.50/whatever to tear someone up.

Also, CS isn't even close to realistic, i.e. If you're shot with an AWP in the toe, you die in one shot from full health. I mean, you'd get your foot blown off and you'd fall over and have to crawl, but you wouldn't die. Also nades that do very little damage, etc, etc. Although I wouldn't call it an arcade shooter either, thats more like fast paced quake and ut.

Also, Day of Defeat has prone, so its not like the engine is incapable, it just wasn't put in because it'd slow down the game too much.
 
Cigolon said:
i disagree. i think a lot of people should not only not know basic gun safety- that they should also test to see if the gun is loaded by eyeing the barrel.
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Clever Clever... I just thought it was funny that he quoted something I figured most people would assume. Yes you could also just check, obviously not by looking in the barrel ;)

But yeah clever.
 
wow.. just ... wow. he posted this on 3+ forums.. exact same thread :eek:
 
dedcat said:
wow.. just ... wow. he posted this on 3+ forums.. exact same thread :eek:
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you guys need to get a life :rolleyes: Whats the big frigging deal, so I like to get responses from different people on my topics.

when you have a statement or question , you dont just tell it to one group, you mention it to co-workers, family, friends, school, etc.. thats what I did, just want more people to respond
 
warsawtag said:
its not suposed to be real its a video game

-warsaw
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:eek: OMG! No one told me! WTF? How come no one told me! Did they tell anyone else that?


man...I just can't believe it...that's unreal...well, I guess it's actually CS, but still....damn...I'm in shock...

I must go rest and weep...I thought for sure it was real....

:p
 
Vulcanus said:
I thought AK-47 used 7.62x39mm?

Anyways, 7.62mm doesn't seem like much, but they travel a fair bit faster than handgun ammo so they don't need to be .357/.38/.40/.45/.50/whatever to tear someone up.

Also, CS isn't even close to realistic, i.e. If you're shot with an AWP in the toe, you die in one shot from full health. I mean, you'd get your foot blown off and you'd fall over and have to crawl, but you wouldn't die. Also nades that do very little damage, etc, etc. Although I wouldn't call it an arcade shooter either, thats more like fast paced quake and ut.

Also, Day of Defeat has prone, so its not like the engine is incapable, it just wasn't put in because it'd slow down the game too much.
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Ummmmmmm actually... Shooting somebody with an awp in the legs/toes takes them down to 25 or lower in health.
 
Sorry, but I have to say this is obscenely stupid. CounterStrike has always seemed this way to people who don't know what the hell they're doing...and yeah, sometimes it does mess up in the way it calculates hits. But you complain about spraying from "5 feet away" and then getting killed? Um...the game rewards people who don't freak out and just start aimlessly spraying, and I'm sure you weren't just 5 feet away. So instead of complaining on multiple forums about the game, either learn to play or play another game. Nobody really cares to hear your complaints.
 
HighwayAssassins said:
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But the fact of the matter is that real guns have a burst selector switch. No one puts their M-16 on full auto and then tries to fire it in burst mode.

CS is a joke when it comes to realism... and boy scouts are just plain gay.
 
tgillespie said:
But the fact of the matter is that real guns have a burst selector switch. No one puts their M-16 on full auto and then tries to fire it in burst mode.

CS is a joke when it comes to realism... and boy scouts are just plain gay.
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thats why it says "part of the skill of the game"...its a game, people should take it as such
 
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