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CS_S is so fake :(

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Labrador

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Man this game just pissed me off for the last time. I just unloaed almost a full clip from the AK47, and the enemy was right in front of me, like 5feet away, and then he shoots me twice and I die WTF ?

Dude, have you ever seen the bullets of an AK47 there a friggin huge, and will rip your bones apart, unless the guy I shot had some force field on from StarTek, that I couldnt buy in the menu, I call BuIIsh!t

Why when I throw grenades at an enemy it doesnt even kill them, but does like 50% damage WTF .
I have heard of stories that nades will blow your limbs off, and either kill you, or bleed ya to death, But in this game it's like flowers burst out of them ?

I am not saying this game should be as realistic as Ghost Recon, but come one, why have weapons modeled after the real thing, but dont act like they relly would ?

EDIT:
Just for the record, when I play, I am always in the top 3 with alot of kills, so I dont suck in the game, I am actually pretty good. I just get mad when I shoot at people, then they kill me with 1 shot form a pistol 100feet away, and when dead i check their health and it is still 100hp.

I would just like the game to more like that wicked game Global Op's, a great concept just a bad game engine. It was more realistic than CounterStrike, but NOT so crazy real as Ghost Recon. It was right in the middle, real enough to be fun, but not too slow and camping
 
Just pisses me off, with a game with a military theme, and weapons straight from the Army, but the gameplay is like Quake ?

Then why even go with this military theme in the game if your not going to use it.

IMy two favorite shooter games of the last year;

RavenShield

Joint Op's
 
I *WAS* looking forward to the new CS...but if it plays like that, I'll stick to Ravenshield. That game will never get old IMO as long as they come up with new maps and I can still play on a lan :D
 
you can't seriously be complaining about this can you? This has gotta be a joke to get some people to start flamming.
 
It's the same gameplay from CS.

It's not meant to be realistic. And there's something in CS, called recoil. Emptying 30 bullets usually means you're shooting at the sky, in CS:S.
 
First of all, usually when someone says they "unloaded a full clip into someone" it means they were spraying like a madman and their bullets were flying over the guys head. It takes around 2-3 bullets for a rifle and 3-5 for a submachine gun to kill someone, not factoring in body armor/headshots.

Second of all, CS has always been more of an arcade-style shooter. It never has, and (hopefully) never will be a simulation.
 
Labrador: Good job at getting that post count up! yaaayer! The game is an action game. Not really meant for total realism. Also, you can't go full auto and expect to actually HIT something. It's just common sense. There's a bullet spread, learn about it. Do you unload full clips into guys in Ghost Recon or Raven Shield and actually hit them? I bet not.

topdragon147: Yeah, this forum is going to turn into sad times once the CS:S movement goes in full swing :(

nst6563: If you actually buy the game you can play online ;) Yes, I'm saying you're warezing it.

Xenomaniac: True. I used to be low key about this stuff, but lately I've grown more and more annoyed at it all. Obviously to the point of not being able to keep my mouth (fingers) shut.
 
NickTheNut said:
nst6563: If you actually buy the game you can play online ;) Yes, I'm saying you're warezing it.
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I'm not "warezing" it. I'd much rather play on a LAN as opposed to the internet mainly b/c I find it much more fun to be playing a map with a bunch of friends as opposed to egotistical strangers like yourself.

So before you go accusing anyone of something, ask for some facts otherwise shut your hole.

Besides, you can get Ravenshield + Athena Sword from BB for like $20 anyway....so why warez it??? You even get the convenient little "mini" box that takes up less space in the trash can.
 
You know...

Lag causes that to happen. You can unload as much as you want, but with all the packet loss, it doesn't get to the server in time. If the person has less lag, then... well... their shots hit you first.
 
Any other new game allows you to set your rate of fire, you can have Auto, Burst or Single. Why CS_S doesnt have that and a prone position is beyond me ? A single fire shot is my favorite in RavenShield
 
Labrador said:
Any other new game allows you to set your rate of fire, you can have Auto, Burst or Single. Why CS_S doesnt have that and a prone position is beyond me ? A single fire shot is my favorite in RavenShield
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wow. a lack of prone? can they at least freaking lean? because man that'd be even lamer.

somebody should just do a CS mod for CoD.
 
Because CS doesn't need all that. It'll just give people the incentive to camp, if they can turn their AK into a recoil-less barage of bullets.

Also, if you need a rate of fire key, then you definitely haven't been playing CS very long. The AK can easily do semi-automatic, 3/2 bullet bursts, and fully automatically perfectly aslong as you know how to shoot and compensate recoil.
 
peepeeface said:
lmao
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hey i'm just sayin. if it's trying to be a war game. pronein and leaning and camping is where it's at. i mean... it's war! (supposedly) you'll be doing what you can to stay alive.
 
*magazine

*they're

Also, have YOU ever seen the rounds from an AK47? They are tiny compared to handgun or hunting rounds :rolleyes:. And they do not rip your bones apart, they are designed to wound.

For your stupidity, you deserve death.
Labrador said:
Man this game just pissed me off for the last time. I just unloaed almost a full clip from the AK47, and the enemy was right in front of me, like 5feet away, and then he shoots me twice and I die WTF ?

Dude, have you ever seen the bullets of an AK47 there a friggin huge, and will rip your bones apart, unless the guy I shot had some force field on from StarTek, that I couldnt buy in the menu, I call BuIIsh!t

Why when I throw grenades at an enemy it doesnt even kill them, but does like 50% damage WTF .
I have heard of stories that nades will blow your limbs off, and either kill you, or bleed ya to death, But in this game it's like flowers burst out of them ?

I am not saying this game should be as realistic as Ghost Recon, but come one, why have weapons modeled after the real thing, but dont act like they relly would ?
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counter strike was never meant to be real

the real world weapons and locations are just for looks dude...i personally prefer some theme besides sci-fi unreal/quake3 type of stuff

its just an arcadey shootem up type of game, so get over it


and try burst fire next time...3-4 shots starting at the chest should raise to a head shot ;)
 
Labrador said:
Just pisses me off, with a game with a military theme, and weapons straight from the Army, but the gameplay is like Quake ?
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Don't you disgrace quake by saying CS:S plays like it. I shoot better in real life then I do in counterstrike, mainly because they added in kick and recoil of a twelve year old holding the gun. The game is unrealistic, CS was and CS:S will follow suit. I say just quit playing both games and move onto the real unrealistic games that we don't expect to be realistic. Or move back to Americas Army because thats actually a great game in its own way (if its free its me!)
 
The day CS or CS:S gets prone/leaning/ironsights implemented is the day I stop playing.
 
Impulse2k said:
The day CS or CS:S gets prone/leaning/ironsights implemented is the day I stop playing.
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QFT

CS is what I consider the perfect blend between boring war sims (Ghost Recon/Etc) and arcade style bloodbaths (Quake/UT 2004). Just enough strategy, and just enough mayhem.

I left my clan and quit CS for over a year (been playing since Beta 1), but this has brought it back for me. It's gorgeous, and it still plays the same. Perfection for me.
 
nst6563 said:
I'm not "warezing" it. I'd much rather play on a LAN as opposed to the internet mainly b/c I find it much more fun to be playing a map with a bunch of friends as opposed to egotistical strangers like yourself.
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I'm sorry for making assumptions, you said it as if you could only play LAN. Which if you did pirate it - that would be all you could do (besides SP). My mistake.

So before you go accusing anyone of something, ask for some facts otherwise shut your hole.
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it's very possible you knew how your statement could have been read as, so don't get attitude. There's really no need to. I guess i didn't put enough smileys to make it known I was only taking jabs, not attacking.

Besides, you can get Ravenshield + Athena Sword from BB for like $20 anyway....so why warez it??? You even get the convenient little "mini" box that takes up less space in the trash can.
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A quick check of suprnova.org shows that people are still pirating it. I'm not going to say anymore on that though.

again, sorry for making assumptions, i guess it's all to easy to do that nowadays. :rolleyes:
 
TheGamerZ said:
You know...

Lag causes that to happen. You can unload as much as you want, but with all the packet loss, it doesn't get to the server in time. If the person has less lag, then... well... their shots hit you first.
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..aahh ... :eek:

..I must always be laggier then everybody else then ..lol

Ima newb to CS anything , and am learning quickly to not hold the fire button down , but shoot in burst with automatic weapons ..I have had many a run in close up and personal with the someone , emptying a whole clip in there face , so I thought, only to have them just slowly crouch and fire off one or two shots and then I'm in spectator mode thinking .."well , ..that sucked"
 
Whining detected! I'm reading an eleven on the newbie meter sir! There is a reason Counter-Strike is the most popular online action game, and if you cannot find it, then simply don't play.
 
AK-47 round:

Caliber, mm 7.62

M4:

Caliber: 5.56mm (STD. NATO Round) (basically slightly larger than a .22 rifle round)

Indeed, these rounds are made for range and to wound. Remember, one wounded guy removes three from combat. (2 to carry the poor bastard)

However, since most US soldiers love to get Headshots, that is not always the case.

CS is not real, it is a game. Enjoy it, or don't play it.

If it was going for realism, it would have these features:

Permanent Death
No buy menu
Fear (yes, all the L337 skeets would be shitting their pants)

So as you see, that isn't going to make a fun game. Military is serious, not fun. In the real world, there is no respawn. So please, its just a game and have fun.
 
Warmonkey said:
Military is serious, not fun. In the real world, there is no respawn. So please, its just a game and have fun.
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Great post Warmonkey. I 2nd it!
 
Everyone loves to get headshots, but everyone but our sniper division aims for center mass.

Warmonkey said:
However, since most US soldiers love to get Headshots, that is not always the case.
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Yeah, if you've played CS then you would know that the nades don't kill someone with 100 hp...also you probably weren't firing the ak accurately at the dude in front of you. They wouldn't release CS:S if the hitboxes weren't working.
 
Langly said:
Or move back to Americas Army because thats actually a great game in its own way (if its free its me!)
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is americas army 100% free? i hear people talking about it but i figured it cost 50 bucks or something. if it is free ill have to look into that.
 
Labrador said:
Any other new game allows you to set your rate of fire, you can have Auto, Burst or Single. Why CS_S doesnt have that and a prone position is beyond me ? A single fire shot is my favorite in RavenShield
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CS:S is designed the way it is because it is suppose to be a fast action game. CS:S as
was CS has always involved short intense firefights and quick rounds of play. Adding the
ability to go prone in CS:S would horribly affect gameplay by greatly increasing player
camping. Sure.. stealth exists in CS... but not to the extent as found in other games. CS
is about the RUSH... always has been... and hopefully always will. IMO... that is why it
enjoys so much success. Rushing = Short Attention Span.

1) Rush
2) Get a kill (maybe)
3) Die
4) Chat in mIRC
5) Respawn
6) Repeat until retarded

If you don't like CS or CS:Source... play something else! Just because the rest of the
gaming world is playing the game doesn't mean that you're wrong for playing something
else. However... if you'd like to join in the fun I recommend accepting the game for what it
is... and becoming intimately familiar with the game's dynamics thus increasing your
skills. Then, you won't have to come back here and post about any further embarassing
episodes you experience while playing CS:S.
 
Black Label said:
is americas army 100% free? i hear people talking about it but i figured it cost 50 bucks or something. if it is free ill have to look into that.
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yep, its free. Good game, but the training wasnt my cup of tea
 
NickTheNut said:
Iit's very possible you knew how your statement could have been read as, so don't get attitude. There's really no need to. I guess i didn't put enough smileys to make it known I was only taking jabs, not attacking.
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bah...it's the damn text. obviously we both read it differently than intended, and it just kinda pissed me off that someone may accuse me of pirating such a cool (IMO) game as ravenshield....

and I've never heard of supernova.org....oldy enough that's my computername :p

they don't have popups or spyware on there do they????
 
Labrador said:
Man this game just pissed me off for the last time. I just unloaed almost a full clip from the AK47, and the enemy was right in front of me, like 5feet away, and then he shoots me twice and I die WTF ?

Dude, have you ever seen the bullets of an AK47 there a friggin huge, and will rip your bones apart, unless the guy I shot had some force field on from StarTek, that I couldnt buy in the menu, I call BuIIsh!t

Why when I throw grenades at an enemy it doesnt even kill them, but does like 50% damage WTF .
I have heard of stories that nades will blow your limbs off, and either kill you, or bleed ya to death, But in this game it's like flowers burst out of them ?

I am not saying this game should be as realistic as Ghost Recon, but come one, why have weapons modeled after the real thing, but dont act like they relly would ?
Click to expand...

Did you really quit the game so come write this?
 
Solution: Play CoD or CoD:UO =)
CoD:UO is the best game out there right now ;) :D
 
HawaiiGamer said:
CS:S is designed the way it is because it is suppose to be a fast action game. CS:S as
was CS has always involved short intense firefights and quick rounds of play. Adding the
ability to go prone in CS:S would horribly affect gameplay by greatly increasing player
camping. Sure.. stealth exists in CS... but not to the extent as found in other games. CS
is about the RUSH... always has been... and hopefully always will. IMO... that is why it
enjoys so much success. Rushing = Short Attention Span.

1) Rush
2) Get a kill (maybe)
3) Die
4) Chat in mIRC
5) Respawn
6) Repeat until retarded

If you don't like CS or CS:Source... play something else! Just because the rest of the
gaming world is playing the game doesn't mean that you're wrong for playing something
else. However... if you'd like to join in the fun I recommend accepting the game for what it
is... and becoming intimately familiar with the game's dynamics thus increasing your
skills. Then, you won't have to come back here and post about any further embarassing
episodes you experience while playing CS:S.
Click to expand...


Just for the record, when I play, I am always in the top 3 with alot of kills, so I dont suck in the game, I am actually pretty good. I just get mad when I shoot at people, then they kill me with 1 shot form a pistol 100feet away, and when dead i check their health and it is still 100hp.

I would just like the game to more like that wicked game Global Op's, a great concept just a bad game engine. It was more realistic than CounterStrike, but NOT so crazy real as Ghost Recon. It was right in the middle, real enough to be fun, but not too slow and camping
 
If you think the gameplay of CS is the same as quake then you should stop talking. CS is a computer game how can it not be fake...
 
If you complain about the features of the game then just go download America's Army... you can lean, prone, switch between single and burst fire....
 
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