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Catalyst Omega

I will be public come monday apparently so let's just sit tight... and send some feedback to AMD about how it isn't smart to do releases a freaking monday instead of a friday, i mean, come on, when will you have more time to test and enjoy the new drivers, during the work week or the weekend?
 
gsync and sli issues:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/770405/gsync-sli-unsmooth-gsync-sli-smooth/

stop sucking nvidia's balls.

NVidia offers a propriety tech...AMD offers same tech, probably with less issues, for less money.

Heat output? who honestly and truly cares about that?
PhysX? ROFL.

SLI frame pacing does not work great.

I never said the 980 sli was not faster...it is, but not by much, especially considering the 290 and 290x have been out for over a year. My point was to say that if you are willing to get 10fps less, you could get the same performance as a $1,300 setup for more than 50% less money.

And a as heads up, go read the leaked information about AMD's new Omega driver. Then go fap and use your tears as lube.

leave that troll alone. he has been threadcrapping on ocn too. the more you engage him the more you are falling for his bait. :D
 
I will be public come monday apparently so let's just sit tight... and send some feedback to AMD about how it isn't smart to do releases a freaking monday instead of a friday, i mean, come on, when will you have more time to test and enjoy the new drivers, during the work week or the weekend?
It's most likely so they have engineering staff available if there is a really bad bug discovered.
 
Nvidia is the one that can't make a 970 and 980 GTX SLi together .. Who's playing catch up?
 
Nvidia is the one that can't make a 970 and 980 GTX SLi together .. Who's playing catch up?

Hell they can't even get the 970's or 980's SLI's to work right for some people.

People having to fix an issue with a hacked bios? Talk about poor support.
 
yeah, no. I've owned both (not a 295x2, but R9 290 Crossfire setup) and the 980s in SLI were slightly smoother in most games I play. Compatibility-wise multi-GPU has absolutely terrible on both camps lately though.

AMD is playing catch-up here also with the Super Resolution feature - though it's good they finally added it.

At least AMD knows a good thing when they see it. Unlike nVidia who just tries to downplay anything their comp does.
 
Wrong, Gtx 970 sli keeps up fine while being cheaper (295x2 is a one shot clearance item like the 7990 was and will be gone quickly forever) , 980 SLi is faster. Sli frame-pacing works great in everything, G-sync is proven tech as is DSR, shadowplay does low to no impact recording up to and including 4k 60hz with high quality hardware encoding too. Add in physx and other value adds and it's still a no brainer to go 970 sli. Less heat output too thanks to drastically lower power consumption.

Snap up these firesaled 295x2 boards while you can if you want but it's not an everyday price and already is almost sold out a day or 2 later now for good.

Read what our hosts here have to say 290X crossfire vs. 980 SLI. Then read what you said and realize that 295x2 outperforms 290X crossfire. Sorry, but nothing you said is accurate.

At the end of the day, what we find is that GeForce GTX 980 SLI performance is left wanting at 4K, not because Maxwell isn't fast, but because the current implementation of SLI is more inconsistent and less efficient compared to AMD's XDMA technology on the AMD Radeon R9 290X. This is a case of aging SLI actually hindering very capable GPUs. SLI needs an upgrade, it needs to evolve.

We think this just ultimately comes down to AMD's better implementation of multi-GPU technology using its XDMA technology. Since the Radeon R9 290/X has been out its efficient and smooth CrossFire performance has been heralded. Ultimately, we think that Maxwell may be held back by its current implementation, at least at 4K gaming. Is it better than the previous Kepler generation? Oh hell yes, a lot better.
 
Wrong, Gtx 970 sli keeps up fine while being cheaper (295x2 is a one shot clearance item like the 7990 was and will be gone quickly forever) , 980 SLi is faster. Sli frame-pacing works great in everything, G-sync is proven tech as is DSR, shadowplay does low to no impact recording up to and including 4k 60hz with high quality hardware encoding too. Add in physx and other value adds and it's still a no brainer to go 970 sli. Less heat output too thanks to drastically lower power consumption.

Snap up these firesaled 295x2 boards while you can if you want but it's not an everyday price and already is almost sold out a day or 2 later now for good.

Have you disagree with you. The 295x2 is faster in 4k then 970 SLI, and keeps up with 980 SLI at 4k (which is what you run).

SLI Frame pacing has some issues in a few games (not all), Gsync+DSR+surround+SLI does not work nor does Gsync+surround+SLI work (it might now).

Also lets not bring up the horrible SLI support lately for games. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=394961

MFAA does not work with SLI, and only works on certain games.

Physx is like Mantle. A nice bonus on certain games.

Right now the best bang for the buck is a 290x if thats all you care about. But power/performance the 970 GTX is the best of the bunch.

Lets not bring up the SLI Voltage problem Nvidia has, http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1837361 which says isn't a problem, although it clearly is.

Lets not bring up the 970 Coil whine issue...
 
Rotated Eyefinity Support for AMD Radeon™ R9 285
- Enables a mix of portrait and landscape oriented displays

What is so new about that card compared to 290 series so that they can introduce PLP support for it, even though that card has just enough power to play Solitaire :mad:

Bring that support to real GPU's as well or release the 3xx series NOW, or just f**k off if you can't do either.

/me is really MAD.
 
Physx is like Mantle. A nice bonus on certain games.

PhysX a nice selective thing.
(who cares)

Mantle a game changer for the whole PC gaming industry the last 30 years.
By far the best thing that has happen in a long long time.

I wouldnt even say what you said in the same sentence.
 
PhysX a nice selective thing.
(who cares)

Mantle a game changer for the whole PC gaming industry the last 30 years.
By far the best thing that has happen in a long long time.

I wouldnt even say what you said in the same sentence.

Eh just how i feel. Once DX12 goes mainstream, you probably wont see mantle as much anymore.

Just like Physx, we just dont see it much anymore.
 
Have you disagree with you. The 295x2 is faster in 4k then 970 SLI, and keeps up with 980 SLI at 4k (which is what you run).

SLI Frame pacing has some issues in a few games (not all), Gsync+DSR+surround+SLI does not work nor does Gsync+surround+SLI work (it might now).

Also lets not bring up the horrible SLI support lately for games. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=394961

MFAA does not work with SLI, and only works on certain games.

Physx is like Mantle. A nice bonus on certain games.

Right now the best bang for the buck is a 290x if thats all you care about. But power/performance the 970 GTX is the best of the bunch.

Lets not bring up the SLI Voltage problem Nvidia has, http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1837361 which says isn't a problem, although it clearly is.

Lets not bring up the 970 Coil whine issue...

Considering your main source link is a single guy complaining of sli problems and almost every respondent to the thread says they aren't having any issues of note and enjoy how well it works, that just goes to show how invalid your arguments are. The rest are of similar inaccuracy and frankly not worth my time to talk to you about. And just FYI there is no special coil whine issue above and beyond what any random sampling of people report. Nothing special about Gtx 970 cards there. Finally MfAA is being enabled for sli soon per Nvidia's driver notes, so I don't get the point of trying to call that as "only works on single forever" as you imply.
 
Considering your main source link is a single guy complaining of sli problems and almost every respondent to the thread says they aren't having any issues of note and enjoy how well it works, that just goes to show how invalid your arguments are. The rest are of similar inaccuracy and frankly not worth my time to talk to you about. And just FYI there is no special coil whine issue above and beyond what any random sampling of people report. Nothing special about Gtx 970 cards there. Finally MfAA is being enabled for sli soon per Nvidia's driver notes, so I don't get the point of trying to call that as "only works on single forever" as you imply.

LOL denial is the proper way of a true Nvidiot.

I know you could easily say im an AMD guy, buy considering I own 2 970's and I am not the only one with all the issues stated above. I am not the only one complaining.

Also all you have to do is go look at the driver threads on guru3d.com. ALOT of people are having driver and SLI issues.

AND if there are 2 Goldentiger's around you both must be having SLI and Voltage problems that are stated on this Nvidia website?

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...y-lower-voltage-than-the-other-driver-bug-/1/

344.65: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=394541 NUMEROUS driver and SLI problems.

344.75 http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=394788 Alot of the same issues as the .65 drivers

344.80 hotfix (wait Nvidia doesn't have drivers problems?!?!?) http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=394889
 
Launch day buyer of Radeon 4850, 5870, 7970, and r9 290 here. Go on calling me an nvidiot all you want (it just diminishes your arguments further, which is fine ;)), but the bottom line is amd has dropped the ball many times and extremely often over the years. I have given their stuff a fair shake every generation since the 9700 Pro back when 256mb was top end, and they've consistently disappointed enough people clearly that in just half a quarter of Gtx 900 series cards being available, nvidia has over 72 percent of the discrete card market with next quarter looking even higher. That's not a sign that people are having a great time with their Radeon products if they're being outsold so hugely. People voted with their dollars despite your protests.
 
Launch day buyer of Radeon 4850, 5870, 7970, and r9 290 here. Go on calling me an nvidiot all you want (it just diminishes your arguments further, which is fine ;)), but the bottom line is amd has dropped the ball many times and extremely often over the years. I have given their stuff a fair shake every generation since the 9700 Pro back when 256mb was top end, and they've consistently disappointed enough people clearly that in just half a quarter of Gtx 900 series cards being available, nvidia has over 72 percent of the discrete card market with next quarter looking even higher. That's not a sign that people are having a great time with their Radeon products if they're being outsold so hugely. People voted with their dollars despite your protests.

LOL dropped the ball.

FX5800? 280 GTX? 480/580 GTX? Both companies dropped the ball numerous times.

I also was a launch day buyer. TNT 2 Riva, Geforce 1/2, 4600 GT, 9500 pro, 7900 GT, 8800gt, 4870 etc etc etc.

Right now both companies drivers suck, both forms of SLI Crossfire suck, and both companies are shady and both have no problem fucking over the consumer.
 
LOL dropped the ball.

FX5800? 280 GTX? 480/580 GTX? Both companies dropped the ball numerous times.

I also was a launch day buyer. TNT 2 Riva, Geforce 1/2, 4600 GT, 9500 pro, 7900 GT, 8800gt, 4870 etc etc etc.

Right now both companies drivers suck, both forms of SLI Crossfire suck, and both companies are shady and both have no problem fucking over the consumer.

I'll agree on the fx5800 but the gtx 280 and Fermi cards were actually very good and well reviewed, though nvidia was rightfully slammed for their heat and noise issues on the 4xx cards just as amd is today with their r9 series cards.

Can't disagree at all with the last bit about neither company caring about their customers except for profit, that's what most corporations are about as for profit companies looking to please shareholders. Hardly unusual but certainly true.
 
I'll agree on the fx5800 but the gtx 280 and Fermi cards were actually very good and well reviewed, though nvidia was rightfully slammed for their heat and noise issues on the 4xx cards just as amd is today with their r9 series cards.

Can't disagree at all with the last bit about neither company caring about their customers except for profit, that's what most corporations are about as for profit companies looking to please shareholders. Hardly unusual but certainly true.

Actually the 280 GTX was so overpriced, that when the 4870 was released, Nvidia had to slash prices by $150-200 bucks.

I personally go for the best bang for the buck, There was no denying that the 970 GTX for $329 with 780TI performance was so hard to pass up.

But right now, its hard not to suggest getting a 290x for $299 when it can compete with the 980 GTX @ 4k
 
Actually the 280 GTX was so overpriced, that when the 4870 was released, Nvidia had to slash prices by $150-200 bucks.

I personally go for the best bang for the buck, There was no denying that the 970 GTX for $329 with 780TI performance was so hard to pass up.

But right now, its hard not to suggest getting a 290x for $299 when it can compete with the 980 GTX @ 4k
Every company with an uncontested superior product does this. The R9 290X was $549 at launch and now you can buy them for $300. It's how businesses work, doesn't really reflect the quality of the product. I had a GTX 280 and it was a nice card at the time (I bought it after the 4870 was released so I got quite a deal).
 
Every company with an uncontested superior product does this. The R9 290X was $549 at launch and now you can buy them for $300. It's how businesses work, doesn't really reflect the quality of the product. I had a GTX 280 and it was a nice card at the time (I bought it after the 4870 was released so I got quite a deal).



Same with the Radeon 7970, priced at 549 when Gtx 580 was cheaper. The gtx 680 came out a month later and performed 5 to 10 percent faster while running cooler and quieter at 500 dollars so amd had to drastically cut the pricing on the 7970's in response. Par for the course and has nothing to do with product quality, in fact it's as dashit said, both companies want your money and as much of it as possible. They will both as businesses, bend you over backwards when they can.
 
Eh just how i feel. Once DX12 goes mainstream, you probably wont see mantle as much anymore.

You will still see it for Windows 7 support, and since much of Mantle is being reused for DX12 and OpenGL NG it will just drive forward the adoption of the new standard, unlike what happened with DX10 and Vista.
 
just because DX 12 is coming out means nothing guys.

Mantle was released awhile back and just now are the games who opted for support are being released.

The release of DX12 is for future games, not the ones being developed right now. It will likely be 1-2 years before you see the first DX 12 title.
 
it's Monday, where are the drivers ?

still waiting to play Farcry 4 with crossfire.. this year please.
 
Tomorrow. There is a big announcement from AMD, Dice and some others.
 
I hope these drivers fucking work.

I'm still stuck on 14.9 whql drivers.

I cannot get anything beta to work on my system.

I tried 14.11 beta 2 and it crashed to desktop every time I started a game.
Loaded the drivers after uninstall and DDU 4 times, nothing. Same happened with the 14.9 beta2 drivers.

14.9 whql runs fine.

What makes you guys so sure there will be a Crossfire profile for FC4 in this package?
 
I hope these drivers fucking work.

I'm still stuck on 14.9 whql drivers.

I cannot get anything beta to work on my system.

I tried 14.11 beta 2 and it crashed to desktop every time I started a game.
Loaded the drivers after uninstall and DDU 4 times, nothing. Same happened with the 14.9 beta2 drivers.

14.9 whql runs fine.

What makes you guys so sure there will be a Crossfire profile for FC4 in this package?

almost in the exact point as you.. im stucked at 14.9 every beta have some kind of issue with some specific games.. 14.9 runs perfect.. so im really hoping these new to work good.
 
almost in the exact point as you.. im stucked at 14.9 every beta have some kind of issue with some specific games.. 14.9 runs perfect.. so im really hoping these new to work good.

Yeah. Just have to keep our fingers crossed.
I hope to god this new stuff even works with Crossfire.
 
AMD driver team(s) doing big things on both the Windows and Linux fronts as of late.

We get Catalyst Omega on Windows that essentially came out of nowhere outside of the leak ~72 hours before they drop. Kudos to AMD for keeping them underwraps...really surprised we didn't hear about this before this week.

On Linux we get the AMDKFD driver for HSA support, AMDGPU, a proper kernel driver, providing a unified framework that'll support both their closed-source catalyst and open-source radeon drivers. Intel and AMD will now both be offering kernel drivers, nVidia has some catching up to do on that front.

I'm looking forward to trying both of these out when available. They've really been hammering out their issues and improving the quality of their drivers the second half of this year. Kudos to our communities, [H] and other review sites that pressed the issue and made them take notice starting with things like the frame times/pacing.

Competition, competition is good for us everyone knows both AMD and nVidia have released shitty drivers and that they both have issues and these kinds of things only make for a better experience for us end users.
 
Now they need to get rid of that third party ad-ware and in-house a true shadowplay competitor.
 
Now they need to get rid of that third party ad-ware and in-house a true shadowplay competitor.

It just got updated tonight with better quality of capture, better GVR detection, and more features. I suppose this is in reference to the new Mantle driver coming tomorrow and Dragon Age Inquisition patch enabling Mantle within the game finally. Well it is enabled now, but it gives worse performance sometimes in comparison to the stock DX11 rendering path. DICE, AMD, EA, and others are supposed to be having a love festival tomorrow as Dragon Age Inquisition won Game of the Year and is a Mantle title. Guess I'll tune in and see what the big deal is.

Also AMD likes to give developers tools and let them run wild dreaming up uses for their products. Thus we have AMD hardware capture built into quite a few capture programs from OBS, the AMD Gaming Evolved app, Mirillis Action!, etc to name a few. They don't like to mandate a rigid set of rules for using their products like Nvidia does. For me having options is awesome so I've really liked AMD products for the last couple of generations. Nvidia could open their product lines up a little and lure me right back as I'm not an AMD or Nvidia fanatic.
 
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Read the article.
Im not buying this.
A big driver release once a year with betas once in a while to essentially add game profiles.
So we can look forward to only seeing things fixed once a year.
that.....this big deal release....and no CrossFire for FarCry4.
meh AMD.....we're going back to the future.
 
Read the article.
Im not buying this.
A big driver release once a year with betas once in a while to essentially add game profiles.
So we can look forward to only seeing things fixed once a year.
that.....this big deal release....and no CrossFire for FarCry4.
meh AMD.....we're going back to the future.
I haven't had any problems with any of their drivers released this year. I realize that some people do have legitimate problems, but I feel like a lot of the negative press is still because of the impression people had of AMD drivers from years ago. Some people have issues with NVIDIA too. Neither of them are flawless.

And the Raptr/AMD Gaming Evolved app is actually pretty nice now. I've used it to capture video and stream to Twitch and it's pretty well done. It's not perfect, and I wish they'd get rid of all the F2P stuff and focus solely on core features like DVR, streaming and optimization tools, but you can basically ignore that part of the app and it's very unobtrusive. I hated it when I first tried it but it has definitely improved.
 
I haven't had any problems with any of their drivers released this year. I realize that some people do have legitimate problems, but I feel like a lot of the negative press is still because of the impression people had of AMD drivers from years ago. Some people have issues with NVIDIA too. Neither of them are flawless.

And the Raptr/AMD Gaming Evolved app is actually pretty nice now. I've used it to capture video and stream to Twitch and it's pretty well done. It's not perfect, and I wish they'd get rid of all the F2P stuff and focus solely on core features like DVR, streaming and optimization tools, but you can basically ignore that part of the app and it's very unobtrusive. I hated it when I first tried it but it has definitely improved.

I havent been able to go past 14.9 whql.
So I get to update again in December 2015 if Im lucky.
Sorry.....thats bullschizzle.
Its a nice try but Ive seen this trick before.
 
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