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Bill Gates Regrets Control-Alt-Delete Key Command

sfsuphysics said:
Having a single button logout key would be fucking idiotic. Work work work, whoops accidentally hit the ONE key, now sure it's not as catastrophic as say hitting reset but as others have said why is it such a bad thing?
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I want my ANY key.
 
I have never once in over 30 years thought twice about ctrl alt delete. For what it does it's perfect. It's impossible to do it on accident, which is what you want for a system interrupt key sequence.
It's not like you have to stretch your fingers across the keyboard in some almost impossible contortionist act.
 
I could care less about the 3 key salute, my pet peeve is the back slash used in directory paths in Windows. I use FreeBSD, Linux and Windows so I'll invariably type the wrong slash when I start typing a path in Windows. If Bill wants to apologize for something, apologize for that.
 
sadsteve said:
I could care less about the 3 key salute, my pet peeve is the back slash used in directory paths in Windows. I use FreeBSD, Linux and Windows so I'll invariably type the wrong slash when I start typing a path in Windows. If Bill wants to apologize for something, apologize for that.
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Forward slashed paths work in Windows too.
 
ChoGGi said:
I have to press ctrl+shift+esc for task manager, where are the complaints about that one?
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Or just right click on the task bar > Task Manager.

I've gotten pretty used to CTRL-Alt-Deleting with just my right hand though (use the CTRL+Alt keys on the right side of the keyboard), so I don't see the issue at all really.
 
W/o ctrl+alt+delete now, I'd miss this shirt.I couldn't imagine life w/o the three finger salute.

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God, this talk reminds me of my Amiga and the bloody soft reset invoked by Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga.
 
Yea, same reason I hate sleep buttons on laptops. The only time you hit it and it works, is when it was done on accident in the middle of doing actual work.... It should be a complex 3 button combo for tasks like that.
 
For those unfamiliar, the combo for login was to thwart malware that abused login mechanisms, and the key combo overcame that. So it's not relevant in modern computing.
 
Yeah, F MS for making us hit three keys, that as others have said are not used in most applications together, to get the job done. Its all MS's fault three key combos are around.

Then again...I seem to remember Control+Open Apple+Reset being used a lot on our Apple II's in elementary school.
 
ChoGGi said:
What's wrong with the key combo? I have to press ctrl+shift+esc for task manager, where are the complaints about that one?
Not that I am complaining, what else would be better combos?

Edit: It seems this article was about some mac users complaining how it only takes one key to bring up the login prompt for mac, but three whole keys for windows?
"An earlier version of this post stated that ctrl+alt+delete turns on a PC."

and
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/20/technology/bill-gates-control-alt-delete/index.html
""We could have had a single button. But the guy who did the IBM keyboard design didn't want to give us our single button," Gates said at a Harvard University event at the time.


Users can press a single key to log in -- not three -- on Apple's Mac computers"
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That and Mac f**ked up with the PowerMac and had a single key on the keyboard that brought up the console. Most people didn't know any console commands, much less how to exit out of the console, since typing exit and quit didn't work. Nor did pressing the console button remove the console. So if you were working on something and accidentally hit the console button, you were shit out of luck, especially so since most programs did not autosave... In my programming class in high school, we had to use PowerMacs and only a few of us actually knew how to use the console, the rest of the class had no clue. So occasionally we would walk around and ask, "Did you save?". If the answer was no, hope you remembered how to get out of the console, click.
 
i would prefer a one handed 3key combo.
something closer together where you don't have to mangle your fingers in an awkward position
 
Kdawg said:
i would prefer a one handed 3key combo.
something closer together where you don't have to mangle your fingers in an awkward position
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I have no problem hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del with my left hand. Practice makes perfect, perhaps you just are not practicing enough with your hands...
 
Ugh...so the new old man quote in the near future will be - "When I was a kid....we had to use CTRL+ALT+DEL.....and we liked it!"
 
Originally, CTL-ALT-DELETE was a soft reset of the machine. In the video, the man who invented it was eluding to starting an application this way because people would eject their disk, put in a new one, then soft reboot the machine to load the new program on that disk. It stayed as a soft reboot until Windows NT (which is when its used changed to that of today). And there *is* a two-key lock screen. Its "Windows-L", so I am unsure why anyone would complain about doing this to lock their screen.
 
T4rd said:
Or just right click on the task bar > Task Manager.

I've gotten pretty used to CTRL-Alt-Deleting with just my right hand though (use the CTRL+Alt keys on the right side of the keyboard), so I don't see the issue at all really.
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Not on my task bar :)
I'm fine pressing ctrl+alt+esc, and the amount of times I press ctrl+alt+del are few enough that I usually just reach over and do it with my right hand (thumb>ctrl,index>alt,pinky>del).


I do remember accidentally pressing ctrl+alt+del on win95, then pressing it again thinking I didn't, then when it catches up rebooting.
sadsteve said:
Ok, open a command prompt and type "dir c:/Windows" and see what happens.
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It printed a list of files in my windows folder. Oh, you meant without the quotes ;)
 
Man, that must be rough on him. Stay strong Bill! We're all pulling for ya!
 
I will say one of the things I originally (and still do) liked about Linux was the ability to change/create my own key combos and not be completely reliant on old standards.
 
sadsteve said:
I could care less about the 3 key salute, my pet peeve is the back slash used in directory paths in Windows. I use FreeBSD, Linux and Windows so I'll invariably type the wrong slash when I start typing a path in Windows. If Bill wants to apologize for something, apologize for that.
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Forward slashes work in Windows. You can also install Linux subsystems for Windows. All you need to do is put the computer in Developer mode, then take a look at your Add/Remove Windows Features. If you install that, you get full BASH capability in Windows natively.
 
ChoGGi said:
Edit: It seems this article was about some mac users complaining how it only takes one key to bring up the login prompt for mac, but three whole keys for windows?
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Makes sense, Mac users are only 1/3 as smart anyway. ;) :p
 
Dead Parrot said:
IIRC, some versions of the Apple II had a single reset button next to the return/enter key. Maybe the 3 button reset combo was a reaction to dumping a night's worth of Apple II coding before he saved?
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Didn't you have to press another button along with the reset button to reset though? Or is my memory not as good as I thought it was and I just imagined that?!

...It is possible, my memory isn't that great....
 
MavericK said:
Makes sense, Mac users are only 1/3 as smart anyway. ;) :p
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Well they're coping just fine with a Unix based OS. Meanwhile the Windows users keep whining about Linux being hard to use like it's 1999 when a modern packaged distro's no harder to use than macOS....
 
BulletDust said:
Well they're coping just fine with a Unix based OS. Meanwhile the Windows users keep whining about Linux being hard to use like it's 1999 when a modern packaged distro's no harder to use than macOS....
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I think it has more to do with not supporting most of the software they use, but this is not a Linux thread so...yeah.
 
Armenius said:
I've never accidentally hit the Windows key. How do you people do it so often that you need to hook and disable it?
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Depends on the keyboard or if you use a laptop a lot.. I've never had an issue hitting it on my desktop.. but my laptop I constantly hit it and the stupid function key..
 
MavericK said:
I think it has more to do with not supporting most of the software they use, but this is not a Linux thread so...yeah.
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Which is also, in most cases, factually incorrect and stuck in 1999 also - But that's a discussion for another thread.

In most cases the software issue all comes right back good old MS and their office suite that's marketed as 'most compatible' but is actually the least compatible with ISO standards office suite around, just another area where modern computing is actually worse off because of Microsoft.
 
H2R2P2 said:
Forward slashes work in Windows. You can also install Linux subsystems for Windows. All you need to do is put the computer in Developer mode, then take a look at your Add/Remove Windows Features. If you install that, you get full BASH capability in Windows natively.
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I already use msys2 for my bashing and project making. I played with the Linux subsystem but actually like msys2 better.
 
If it was so bad, then why didn't they change it when the decided it was a problem? It's computers. Shit changes.
 
r00k said:
Do you not remember the keyboards with the Sleep Wake and Power buttons? Bump one of those and "$#!+" Worse was that, back then, sleep and wake took a fair bit of time to do their thing, and iirc were not very reliable.
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I had a keyboard with all three buttons. after hitting them constantly and powering off my PC during CS games, i took a knife and pryed them out.
 
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