We'll just have to disagree then.Zarathustra[H];1039728995 said:I couldn't disagree more with this line of thought.
We don't even know how offensive it actually was. Like I said, dongle and forking a repo are terms in the field, people need to grow up and stop acting irrationally on their being offended.She shouldn't have to turn around and ASK to be in a non-offensive professional work environment. It should be a basic universal expectation. I don't condone her "public shaming" bit, but I'd support her every bit of the way had she instead done the trade-show equivalent of "going to HR."
I don't like a lot of what Penn & Teller do, I do think they are dicks, but I do agree with this video that someone posted earlier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bwGsOBTlhE
Name calling? Really?There is no place for talk like that in a professional setting (or really anywhere) and coming out to bat for that douchebag, you really look like you are defending the "good old boys" gentleman status quo.
1. "talk like that" is dongle and forking a repo? Am I going to have to stop talking about polishing my shaft and lubing my hole as well simply because it can be taken as sexually. I'm going to have to stop drilling and reaming holes as well? Stop screwing things? Stop referring to an adhesive as being white and gooey?
2. The "douchebag" as you called him actually turned around and gave a level headed and sincere apology with an explanation of what happened after the event. He's not a douchebag, he's the one who had a lapse in judgment and is paying for it dearly.
Again, are you talking about "sexism" or just "sexual innuendo"? Please be specific here. I'm all against sexism, but sexual innuendo (which I believe this was more than actual sexism) I couldn't give two fucks about and would PREFER if everyone removed the sticks from their arses and learned to deal with it and not be offended at something so absurd or if they are offended to deal with it like adults.I'm all for making an extreme example of anyone who even dares approach the grey zone of workplace sexual conduct, with the hope that maybe future generations will be influenced and find it unacceptable.
Although it doesn't directly apply, as he's talking about swearing rather than sexual innuendo and connotations, I think what Stephen Fry said is true...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0Ny6WhfLU
That's just bullshit. It's nothing to do with boys being boys, girls make lewd comments as well. The fact you link sexual innuendo to the bullshit that happened at Steubenville just shows how you are trying oh so hard to be offended by linking some non-sexist sexual comments to something heinous as that. It's like linking someone saying "I'd fucking kill for a sandwich" to someone murdering a bunch of people then fucking their corpses.If we are all lucky, in the next couple of generations there will be absolutely zero tolerance for "boys being boys" type bullshit.
While you are right, there is no direct equivalence, and this is very very minor in comparison, it is "boys being boys" thinking like this that leads to the kind of coverups and bullshit that happened in Steubenville. It needs to be completely and totally eradicated if we are to have a decent society.
Also, get off your fucking high horse. You're complaining about comments on dongles and forking repos and having a decent society, but you turn around and call the guy a douchebag after he's made an sincere apology, perhaps you should practice what you preach and show a bit of acceptance to create this decent society of yours (which I'm imagining something along the lines of a dystopian society where no one is allowed to say anything but what fits in with the mandated culture).