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360 has a built in hardware scaler. PS3 doesn't. I have NHL 08 on both. Looks smooth on the 360, looks aliased and blocky on the PS3.
Sony screwed up by not adding a true hardware scaler. The BenQ only scales up. It does not post process and that's why it has no lag at lower resolutions but shows up as aliased and jagged when really low resolutions are scaled up (like 1280x720).
Now I know which platform I'll get GTA IV on
Only the Westinghouse L2410NM has a good internal scaler that smooths out the low res 720p games from PS3, but adds input lag at all resolutions of 32 to 50 ms. It also crushes dark colors a lot, so it's a different set of compromises.
My NEC LCD2690 also does a great job but that is a monitor that costs over $1000.00.
The issue with most monitors is that they don't perform a lot of internal image processing (with a few exceptions) and you pretty much see what it gets.
And to be honest, I find the Ps3 shows more banding and aliasing than the 360 by far.
DVDs I haven't tried. Blue Rays are pretty good on this though.
Regards,
10e
360 has a built in hardware scaler. PS3 doesn't. I have NHL 08 on both. Looks smooth on the 360, looks aliased and blocky on the PS3.
Sony screwed up by not adding a true hardware scaler. The BenQ only scales up. It does not post process and that's why it has no lag at lower resolutions but shows up as aliased and jagged when really low resolutions are scaled up (like 1280x720).
Now I know which platform I'll get GTA IV on
Only the Westinghouse L2410NM has a good internal scaler that smooths out the low res 720p games from PS3, but adds input lag at all resolutions of 32 to 50 ms. It also crushes dark colors a lot, so it's a different set of compromises.
Do some searches first. This actually depends more on the programmers than the hardware. GTA and many current games are reporting essentially identical visuals. Listen to this review, he found AA better on PS3:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/209601.html?playlist=popular
As far as your monitor smoothing 720p better than another. Well I would like to see comparison screen shots of that. I don't expect any kind of significant difference here unless it is significantly blurring everything.
You can't fix broken AA by smoothing later in the monitor. It has to be done properly in the 3d rendering.
Make sure you actually run games in 1080p, that support it (do Any?). If you send 720p in a game that supports 1080p, then you have no one to blame for jaggies but yourself. If the console can upscale, compare that upscaling to the monitors.
Again the problem is consoles that can't really do 1080p with many polygons and can barely even do AA at 720p. Don't blame the monitor because the "next gen" consoles barely handle 720p (many games are actually 640p) when you are displaying on a 1080p monitor.
PC games FTW.
I cant view your pics but I think I know what your talking about...
I have just sent 2 of these back because of it.
My prob is: when viewing a 1080p signal using either 1:1 or Aspect display modes, the black bars top and bottom are not actually solid black but made up of faint white flickering lines that look like some sort of noise or interference
It is not just PS3, I have tried other sources including PC and everything does it, also both DVI and HDMI inputs do it.
Whats worse I contacted Benq tech support and they know about it but cant do anything
Real shame I was otherwise very happy with it
Please do let me know if it fixes the issue.
. I haven't tested it yet, if the problem persists with the VGA cable.Please do let me know if it fixes the issue.
If an exchange helps I might consider it.
I have 0 dead/stuck pixels, so I will have to weigh the risk of getting one with bad pixels. Especially if the issue doesn't necessarily occur with all graphic cards since I will be getting a dedicated card (instead of the built-in) in a couple of months anyway.
For now I plugged it thru the VGA cable after it happened to me twice this morning as I was doing some paperwork and reading my emails, and I finally was angry enough to get up off my ass and exchange the cables
Did you try it with the HDMI input?
yup, VGA seems to be working, I left it asleep for about 15 minutes and when I tried to wake it up, there was no problem.
I agree totally, the noise makes 1080p unusable to me too. Worst thing is watching PS3 bluray movies it just constantly catches my eye, looks even worse with dark scenes.
Wouldnt bother sending it back, I had 2 both were exactly the same, one was manufactured Feb 08 the other Mar 08. Thought I had finally found the perfect monitor for my needs but the search goes on... You could try contacting Benq tech support, would be interesting to see if they give you same answer as me.
They said to me it is a "limitation" of the panel itself and nothing can be done. They did however say the FP241W doesn't have the problem and suggested that as an alternative, didn't offer me one at a reduced price though
now i am tempted to do an exchange
I'll wait for your report in a few days
Could it be a cable issue?!?! I don't have another cable to double check. Did you try a different cable with your older monitor?