Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

Yep, looks like they are back up, still having a hard time joining one though...matchmaker is taking forever and I am too slow to join one that is almost full...
 
There needs to be a sniper limit of about 1/10th of the team so about 3 snipers per team on a 64 player map, otherwise you just get noob mountain from BC2 all over again, I don't expect this to change, the only thing you can do is either join them on the hill and just shoot for good K/D and accept your loss, or switch servers, there's simply nothing you can do to prevent it, people are going to do whatever they please even if that dicks over the entire team.

The thing is that the guys lying on the rocks are getting slaughtered. The rocks provide zero cover at this point because the polygonal mesh under the graphic is incomplete. I just Q spot like BC2 and then head-shot them right through the rocks. I bet you three quarters of the campers you see have horrible K/D but they are just tired of getting killed and don't understand the game yet.

Trees > Rocks in BF3 Beta.

A lot of people think that 30 fps is an acceptable framerate for this game and they are delusional. Turn everything off! You NEED 50fps+ to transition between movement and firing as specially with all the vaulting your player has to do. If you stay in one spot in BF3 you will get slaughtered.

I just scored a 48 and 12 on the attacking team with sniper and planted the bomb 3 times. I went from level 25 to 27 in one round. The auto-snipers are god mode with 12x zoom and laser site. I don't use anything else anymore because there isn't any point. I can kill 5 people point blank or half way across the map with the same gun.
 
The thing is that the guys lying on the rocks are getting slaughtered. The rocks provide zero cover at this point because the polygonal mesh under the graphic is incomplete. I just Q spot like BC2 and then head-shot them right through the rocks. I bet you three quarters of the campers you see have horrible K/D but they are just tired of getting killed and don't understand the game yet.

Trees > Rocks in BF3 Beta.

A lot of people think that 30 fps is an acceptable framerate for this game and they are delusional. Turn everything off! You NEED 50fps+ to transition between movement and firing as specially with all the vaulting your player has to do. If you stay in one spot in BF3 you will get slaughtered.

I just scored a 48 and 12 on the attacking team with sniper and planted the bomb 3 times. I went from level 25 to 27 in one round. The auto-snipers are god mode with 12x zoom and laser site. I don't use anything else anymore because there isn't any point. I can kill 5 people point blank or half way across the map with the same gun.

Just wait until they fix the hit detection and weapon damage. You'll be fucked.
 
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I just upgraded the other day from a gtx260 to a gtx570 @ 950mhz and it made a world of difference.

Was getting fps in the high 40's on medium settings on the gtx260 and the game felt very laggy and was kinda hard to track onto people quickly.

Now with gtx570, All ULTRA settings, 4x AA-Medium, 16x AF, no motion blur, 1280x960 @ 120hz on my CRT I'm averaging around 95 fps, running at this lower resolution really helps, the gtx570 is around 90% usage, if I run 1600x1200 it's pegged at 100% usage and fps is much lower. That's the nice thing with CRT's they still look great at lower rez with higher refresh.


ULTRA:
65-85 fps outside
100-150 fps inside

It's very smooth and super easy to get kills now, I feel like I have the jump on everyone.

The Class I'm using...

Assault
UMP-45 w/ Red Dot
MP-443 w/ Tactical
Flak Vest or Squad Sprint

Here's last nights games. My play style is rambo, I like to take mcoms...

20-8
34-19
20-10
66-33 ->9974pts :D I've never seen anyone break 10k, was super close :(
57-28
39-14
25-12
18-2

I agree completely... YOU NEED AT LEAST 60FPS ALL THE TIME. I swear as soon as I lowered my settings my scores tripled.
 
flash light s are too bright in the day time imo. Maybe military flash lights are crazy bright like that but are they seriously that blinding 100 feet away on a bright, sunny day?
 
flash light s are too bright in the day time imo. Maybe military flash lights are crazy bright like that but are they seriously that blinding 100 feet away on a bright, sunny day?

Go outside on a sunny day and tell me a mag light is not blinding you in the face.

Light is light unfortunately.
 
This game is a fucking shambles. Even labeled as beta, it's seriously broken. I find I am reminded why I don't play online shooters anymore.
 
Are we seriously not going to be able to change our name when the full game comes out as it is in the beta?

My EA account Id is not what I use in video games.... isnt this obvious that most people do not want their EA account name as their in game name?
 
Does anyone else miss the little things from BF 2 like the medic telling you, "You'll live buddy, now get back to the fight."
 
Does anyone else miss the little things from BF 2 like the medic telling you, "You'll live buddy, now get back to the fight."

100% miss those, particularly the medic line you quoted. such fond memories :)
 
I have latest beta drivers, asus G74S laptop, 12gb ram gtx 560m slightly overclocked core i7 cpu and at low settings I only get low 40's fps.. It my machine or is does the game run poorly for most? 1920 x 1080 res

** at medium I get high 30's on outside map.
 
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I bet you three quarters of the campers you see have horrible K/D but they are just tired of getting killed and don't understand the game yet.

Glad I'm not one of them.

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I have latest beta drivers, asus G74S laptop, 12gb ram gtx 560m slightly overclocked core i7 cpu and at low settings I only get low 40's fps.. It my machine or is does the game run poorly for most? 1920 x 1080 res

** at medium I get high 30's on outside map.

That's about what you should be getting. GTX560m is about as powerful as a desktop GTS450.
 
Make sure you guys turn off the AntiAliasing Post processing. Makes the game look so much better.
 
Glad I'm not one of them.

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Meh, nice KDR but that coupled with your low points per minute makes me think you're a camper. Pretty easy to get a nice KDR when you aren't risking your neck to cap and disable M-COM's. Your 0.68 win/loss ratio kind of backs the theory up, seems all those kills aren't doing shit to help your team win.

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I may only be a little over 1 with my KDR (got off to a rough start until I found a weapon I liked) but I score over 300 more points per minute than you which is due in large part to the fact that I'm constantly planting on (100 points) and destroying (200 points) M-COMS. Also, I'm quite proud of my 2.0 win/loss ratio.

So yeah, nice KDR but honestly I wouldn't be bragging about those stats.
 
so..Asked a freind while playing Caspian Borders..if there was missles/bombs on the plane..he said nope..so basically..Missles are the 6-7 unlock on the plane..they dont come with them..you only get a gun..whoopdeedoo..I can strafe and maybe shoot down another plane..boring. but then I have to dedicate lots of hours in a plane just to ge tmy Missles, that should be on the plane in the first place.

so basically..the planes will still be for the elite pilots than can dedicate long hours in the plane. us noobs that play the game casually..will not see missles until 100 hours into the game..seeing how unlocks work with kills. I hope its not this way..but its how it looks by the unlock stuff online.
 
how do i host my own bf3 server once game goes live?

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server down? nothing showing up for me
 
so..Asked a freind while playing Caspian Borders..if there was missles/bombs on the plane..he said nope..so basically..Missles are the 6-7 unlock on the plane..they dont come with them..you only get a gun..whoopdeedoo..I can strafe and maybe shoot down another plane..boring. but then I have to dedicate lots of hours in a plane just to ge tmy Missles, that should be on the plane in the first place.

so basically..the planes will still be for the elite pilots than can dedicate long hours in the plane. us noobs that play the game casually..will not see missles until 100 hours into the game..seeing how unlocks work with kills. I hope its not this way..but its how it looks by the unlock stuff online.

It's really a terrible idea because anyone who doesn't buy the game and immediately start flying jets and choppers will be at a huge disadvantage because not only are bombs and heat-seeking missiles unlocks but countermeasures are as well.

So, within a day any pilot new to the game will be going up against people who have heat-seeking missiles to attack with and they won't even have countermeasures to defend against them. All they'll have is a machinegun, they'll get thoroughly dominated, and they won't get in a jet again.
 
Meh, nice KDR but that coupled with your low points per minute makes me think you're a camper. Pretty easy to get a nice KDR when you aren't risking your neck to cap and disable M-COM's. Your 0.68 win/loss ratio kind of backs the theory up, seems all those kills aren't doing shit to help your team win.


I may only be a little over 1 with my KDR (got off to a rough start until I found a weapon I liked) but I score over 300 more points per minute than you which is due in large part to the fact that I'm constantly planting on (100 points) and destroying (200 points) M-COMS. Also, I'm quite proud of my 2.0 win/loss ratio.

So yeah, nice KDR but honestly I wouldn't be bragging about those stats.

Got something against/to say about campers? ;)

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No, those are very respectable stats, it's clear you're contributing heavily to whatever team you play on.

Kuyaglen's stats however, more reflected the average camper, someone entirely consumed by their KDR who's narrow focus is more a detriment to their team than a boon. It's not often that I see a camper who truly knows what they're doing and is really making a difference in swinging the tide of battle to their team's favor. It's clear by your stats you're one of the rare few, congrats ;).

I am surprised at your accuracy though, I didn't think I'd ever find someone with worse accuracy than me, haha. Did you also have a poor run with the assault rifles at the start of the game? My accuracy is closer to 40% with my weapons of choice, the MK11 and the SVD, but sadly my absolutely abysmal performance with the M16, the AK, and the M14 drag that down quite a bit :(.
 
Meh, nice KDR but that coupled with your low points per minute makes me think you're a camper. Pretty easy to get a nice KDR when you aren't risking your neck to cap and disable M-COM's. Your 0.68 win/loss ratio kind of backs the theory up, seems all those kills aren't doing shit to help your team win.

I may only be a little over 1 with my KDR (got off to a rough start until I found a weapon I liked) but I score over 300 more points per minute than you which is due in large part to the fact that I'm constantly planting on (100 points) and destroying (200 points) M-COMS. Also, I'm quite proud of my 2.0 win/loss ratio.

So yeah, nice KDR but honestly I wouldn't be bragging about those stats.

Yeah, my current Score/Min is 412, but I'm still able to retain a K/D of 1.45 and a W/L of 1.6. Unfortunately my accuracy is down in the 14% range, but I also play Assault almost exclusively, so that's expected.

But the point is, this game is about far more than K/D. If you're worried solely about K/D, you're playing it wrong.
 
score/min also means nothing. I spent alot of time playing around and taking pictures with friends and all my hours in Caspin was to explore and play around (and wait for jets hehe)

so..Asked a freind while playing Caspian Borders..if there was missles/bombs on the plane..he said nope..so basically..Missles are the 6-7 unlock on the plane..they dont come with them..you only get a gun..whoopdeedoo..I can strafe and maybe shoot down another plane..boring. but then I have to dedicate lots of hours in a plane just to ge tmy Missles, that should be on the plane in the first place.

so basically..the planes will still be for the elite pilots than can dedicate long hours in the plane. us noobs that play the game casually..will not see missles until 100 hours into the game..seeing how unlocks work with kills. I hope its not this way..but its how it looks by the unlock stuff online.

I got 810 points for 2 kills in a heli when Caspin was open and the 6th unlcok requires about 20000 points so maybe less than 100 kills will unlock everything, but I think you can only use 1 unlock with the jet (I guess all will use the one that escapes the engineer FIM-92 anti-air rocket)

Me too, but I sit back by a tree in some brush or something and let my little eod robot arm the MCOMS. It's damn hilarious to arm one, watch the team disarm it and before they are 2ft away have the mcom rearmed lol. Also if they get too close I use the torch tool to kill a disarmer lol...good times.

I unlocked it but don't know how to use it, how do you use torch and arm with it?
 
It's really a terrible idea because anyone who doesn't buy the game and immediately start flying jets and choppers will be at a huge disadvantage because not only are bombs and heat-seeking missiles unlocks but countermeasures are as well.

So, within a day any pilot new to the game will be going up against people who have heat-seeking missiles to attack with and they won't even have countermeasures to defend against them. All they'll have is a machinegun, they'll get thoroughly dominated, and they won't get in a jet again.

Yeah, that sucks. BF2 was bad enough with the jet and chopper mafia - can't imagine how bad it'll be with unlocks. Did the choppers in Caspian have the TV missiles, or are they all single seat?
 
This is why I hate the increasing use of what were traditionally considered MMO and RPG type elements in online FPS games. Someone who's played longer or plays more hours shouldn't have an inherent advantage over someone else as long as their skill and game knowledge is the same.
 
Are the caspian servers completely gone again? I heard they were running again but no joy... And the server browser was completely blank for a while too!
 
No, those are very respectable stats, it's clear you're contributing heavily to whatever team you play on.

Kuyaglen's stats however, more reflected the average camper, someone entirely consumed by their KDR who's narrow focus is more a detriment to their team than a boon. It's not often that I see a camper who truly knows what they're doing and is really making a difference in swinging the tide of battle to their team's favor. It's clear by your stats you're one of the rare few, congrats ;).

I am surprised at your accuracy though, I didn't think I'd ever find someone with worse accuracy than me, haha. Did you also have a poor run with the assault rifles at the start of the game? My accuracy is closer to 40% with my weapons of choice, the MK11 and the SVD, but sadly my absolutely abysmal performance with the M16, the AK, and the M14 drag that down quite a bit :(.

I understand your point, and campers do have a bad stigma, I generally don't knock people's play styles. Rather than the player themselves. Like you say, people who "camp" can turn the tide of battle. Again, like you imply, it's more about intelligence and to add onto that playing smart > pure brute force and skill. Take a scenario in Metro for instance, a sniper staying back in spawn on defender side on top of a high rock taking sniper shots. That guy is a camper, but is also playing passively. He is just playing sniper to gain kills, you could argue, he's defending MCOM sites. But, I have never seen that done efficiently - ever . My tactic as a camper is passive-aggressive. As a defender, I rush the right side wall, picking out strays from the start, work my way right by the attacker spawn and plant a mobile spawn point(for me or my team to respawn on) - then I set up my tent behind the rocks and take my picks. This way I am gaining kills, causing confusion for the other team - taking their focus away from the MCOM and ultimately running their tickets out. I average 20 kills at the first part of the match - that's 20% of attacker tickets by my hand alone. With a K/D of around 2.00. Because I know when to take shots, when to pull back and when to stay in cover.

As for my accuracy, it's low because I pre-fire a lot. Let's say I know someone is behind cover right by a corner, whether because I am battling him or simply because he's been marked. I'll keep him surpressed by pre-fire so that my squad/teammates can rush up and mop him up. On top of that in the subway portion I play as assault and spray a lot
 
I understand your point, and campers do have a bad stigma, I generally don't knock people's play styles. Rather than the player themselves. Like you say, people who "camp" can turn the tide of battle. Again, like you imply, it's more about intelligence and to add onto that playing smart > pure brute force and skill. Take a scenario in Metro for instance, a sniper staying back in spawn on defender side on top of a high rock taking sniper shots. That guy is a camper, but is also playing passively. He is just playing sniper to gain kills, you could argue, he's defending MCOM sites. But, I have never seen that done efficiently - ever . My tactic as a camper is passive-aggressive. As a defender, I rush the right side wall, picking out strays from the start, work my way right by the attacker spawn and plant a mobile spawn point - then I set up my tent behind the rocks and take my picks. This way I am gaining kills, causing confusion for the other team - taking their focus away from the MCOM and ultimately running their tickets out. I average 20 kills at the first part of the match - that's 20% of attacker tickets by my hand alone. With a K/D of around 2.00. Because I know when to take shots, when to pull back and when to stay in cover.

As for my accuracy, it's low because I pre-fire a lot. Let's say I know someone is behind cover right by a corner, whether because I am battling him or simply because he's been marked. I'll keep him surpressed by pre-fire so that my squad/teammates can rush up and mop him up. On top of that in the subway portion I play as assault and spray a lot

That's exactly how I play, and yet people constantly complain and call me a camper and whatnot.

Edit: SERVERS ARE BACK UP!
 
That's exactly how I play, and yet people constantly complain and call me a camper and whatnot.

Edit: SERVERS ARE BACK UP!

I wouldn't concern myself of what people think of your gameplay style.
If you're not cheating, then it's all good. Make the player pay for camping.

A well placed grenade always gets the camper running.
 
score/min also means nothing. I spent alot of time playing around and taking pictures with friends and all my hours in Caspin was to explore and play around (and wait for jets hehe)



I got 810 points for 2 kills in a heli when Caspin was open and the 6th unlcok requires about 20000 points so maybe less than 100 kills will unlock everything, but I think you can only use 1 unlock with the jet (I guess all will use the one that escapes the engineer FIM-92 anti-air rocket)



I unlocked it but don't know how to use it, how do you use torch and arm with it?

Torch will only activate when your in range of an enemy and no graphic shows, just audio. To arm/disarm an MCOM just roll up to it and it should say hold left mouse button to activate.
 
Got a few questions here on improving performance. Current system stats are in my sig under the main computer. I don't have money for a completely new system but I could do a partial upgrade now then upgrade again later. So, which would benefit me more:
(1) New i5 2500k/mobo/ram
(2) New video card Ati 6950 2gb.
(3) Third mystery option?

Also, what kind of CPU utilization are you guys seeing so far?

Copied and pasted from my post in the BF3 performance thread:
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The CPU usage is around the high 90's occasionally holding at 100% for a second or so here and there. RAM usage is a measly ~1-1.5gb total for the game. The CPU/RAM use did not seem impacted by total screen resolution high or low. I didn't test video settings.

With everything on low I got the following results:

At 2480x800:
GPU % use: Average @ 92.6%
GPU ram use: Average @ 852mb
FRAPS: Min: 24 / Max: 79 / Average: 48.43


At: 3968x1200
GPU % use: Average @ 98.4%
GPU ram use: Average @ 1066mb
FRAPS: Min: 18 / Max: 52 / Average: 23.2
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I want to continue to use three monitors. I find the field of view quite faptastic.
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As a defender, I rush the right side wall, picking out strays from the start, work my way right by the attacker spawn and plant a mobile spawn point(for me or my team to respawn on) - then I set up my tent behind the rocks and take my picks.

Personally I have an issue with spawn camping, though not to the point of raging about it (if it's 'allowed' in the game, then it's a legit tactic no matter how irritating). It just sucks all the fun out of it for me if I am getting nailed right at the attacker spawn because someone has posted up like you've described. It's a sound tactic for victory, but it's a little cheap in my opinion.

Again: it's allowed in the game, so it's legit. I just don't personally engage in it.

One tactic I found useful in Metro as a defender is to set up behind the rocks right behind the B MCom in the first stage. I found that from that vantage point I could cover the low approach, as well as, the high middle ground, effectively defending B and (partially) A at the same time. Dropped a mobile spawn point there behind the rocks which gave good spawn cover, and I was good to go.

I was thrilled by this discovery because in BC2 I never found myself a very effective sniper, and was never able to contribute to my team very well in this role. However, in BF3, I was able to snipe and support my team at the same time which was quite exciting!
 
I don't mind campers. I've done my share of it, well and poorly.


I'm getting mighty damn tired of being killed by a corpse 3 areas back though.
 
I don't mind campers. I've done my share of it, well and poorly.


I'm getting mighty damn tired of being killed by a corpse 3 areas back though.

Yeah I was once killed by an invisible man. Kill-cam was back at the beginning of the map.
 
I doubt I'll be playing this at release...

So here's my expert sniper tip for all of you.

Don't use any scopes that give off a reflection. Use only the ACOG 4x or the PSO-1 4x scope. Picking off other snipers with these is so easy it's like cheating. They won't see your scope reflection, but you will see theirs. Just shoot for the reflection for a headshot. Other players also won't notice you and you can rack up the kills. It still works just fine at long range. I pick off people I can barely see. You just need to get comfortable with it.

Also, any time you hit someone with your bolt action and they don't die, switch to your pistol and pop off a clip at them to finish them off. I use the silenced glock. It's the best in my opinion.


Trust me. Try it. Now you can camp in peace. Add a nice mobile spawnpoint in case you get killed. When playing defender, I think my best is 14-0 before moving into the subway. It's a lot harder not to die in there.
 
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I doubt I'll be playing this at release...

So here's my expert sniper tip for all of you.

Don't use any scopes that give off a reflection. Use only the ACOG 4x or the PSO-1 4x scope. Picking off other snipers with these is so easy it's like cheating. They won't see your scope reflection, but you will see theirs. Just shoot for the reflection for a headshot. Other players also won't notice you and you can rack up the kills. It still works just fine at long range. I pick off people I can barely see. You just need to get comfortable with it.

Also, any time you hit someone with your bolt action and they don't die, switch to your pistol and pop off a clip at them to finish them off. I use the silenced glock. It's the best in my opinion.


Trust me. Try it. Now you can camp in peace. Add a nice mobile spawnpoint in case you get killed. When playing defender, I think my best is 14-0 before moving into the subway. It's a lot harder not to die in there.

You were playing against bad snipers.
 
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