Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

haunter said:
this,.

horns are the fire button



lies.

I killed numerous jets in the viper last night with AA misles.

what AR are you even talking about?

flash suppressor has made all the LMG's better. I was raping with the M27/Holo/Grip/FS last night




because it allowed an untouchable spawn point to be created?



increased suppression is kind of awesome. makes cover and movement tactics all more important.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYQiSG-71c&hd=1
It happens with helicopters too

The L85 is now bugged and has an exploit where it's pinpoint dead center accurate at all times.

The M27 isn't an LMG, it's literally an M4 with a slightly bigger magazine. Weapons like the M249 and PKP handle considerably different (read: now far shittier on the move)

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. said:
I know it's a game, but MAV riding is also blatantly unrealistic. Not in the bend realism a little bit to suit gameplay purposes but in a throw the laws of physics out the window kinda unrealistic.

It was also an easy way to get to places you should be and glitch.
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Yea cause riding on the wings of planes / jets and sitting on top of fucking helicopters was totally realistic and made perfect sense in previous titles. Same with getting pushed along at 80mph by a truck because there are no available seats.

Like seriously. Realism as an argument is retarded in Battlefield.
 
Banyan said:
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i'm so tired of dlc and bullshit like this. in the future i'm not giving any money to companies that hatch schemes like this and item malls.
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Are you fucking kidding me? $40 for all unlocks? That is INSANE.

Those prices overall are ridiculous.
 
Yet people will buy them and continue the trend towards IKEA-based gaming.

It's the future, I'm telling you!
 
MavericK96 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 for all unlocks? That is INSANE.

Those prices overall are ridiculous.
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Then don't pay????????????????

If people want to unlock their weapons let them. A dollar isn't worth the same to everyone else as it is to you.
 
Never fails. I would buy a book describing the patching process with this series. EVERY patch they have ever released has broken more things than it fixed. Ultimately, the original version is the best one. lol

Whatever, sucks that I still like the game. I guess I need to start looking elsewhere for competitive MP.
 
Valshistixol said:
Suppression is so over the top now it's fucking ridiculous. I don't understand why they changed it.
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Use the squad cover perk. Helps alot. Also when under fire, fall back, use cover, to try and get your accuracy back. Also remember it works both ways. Get the first shot and you increase your chance to win.

I haven't had any technical problems with the patch. What assault gun is everybody complaining about?
 
MavericK96 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 for all unlocks? That is INSANE.

Those prices overall are ridiculous.
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Then just don't buy them. There's literally no benefit outside of you not having to "work" to unlock them.

TF2 does the same shit. You can get basically anything in the game for free... or if you can't be assed to maybe wait a few days / trade for it then you can buy it. They aren't better or worse than when you get them any other way so who gives a shit how someone has fun.
 
WarriorX said:
Use the squad cover perk. Helps alot. Also when under fire, fall back, use cover, to try and get your accuracy back. Also remember it works both ways. Get the first shot and you increase your chance to win.

I haven't had any technical problems with the patch. What assault gun is everybody complaining about?
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While squad cover was buffed it wasn't buffed anywhere near as much as suppression was. Suppression before the patch was pretty balanced IMO. I don't think you should win a fire fight because you shot a bullet in the general direction of someone first.
 
Banyan said:
i'm so tired of dlc and bullshit like this. in the future i'm not giving any money to companies that hatch schemes like this and item malls.
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I'm quite happy that they priced it that high. Hopefully that means less people will be likely to buy it. Those that really want the new weapons and have no time to play to unlock them may be willing to pay that. But this way it won't be a bunch of kidlets trying to shortcut their way to wins.
 
socK said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYQiSG-71c&hd=1
It happens with helicopters too

The L85 is now bugged and has an exploit where it's pinpoint dead center accurate at all times.

The M27 isn't an LMG, it's literally an M4 with a slightly bigger magazine. Weapons like the M249 and PKP handle considerably different (read: now far shittier on the move)



Yea cause riding on the wings of planes / jets and sitting on top of fucking helicopters was totally realistic and made perfect sense in previous titles. Same with getting pushed along at 80mph by a truck because there are no available seats.

Like seriously. Realism as an argument is retarded in Battlefield.
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Well Im not sure what needs to be done to get the bug for the L85A3. I used it and it is not 100% accurate. Either it requires a certain setup, or some unknown actions but in general it isnt 100%. I use burst fire and if I go full auto it recoil in all sorts of directions.

Watched some videos about the L85A3 and they where legit in terms of recoil.
 
socK said:
Yea cause riding on the wings of planes / jets and sitting on top of fucking helicopters was totally realistic and made perfect sense in previous titles. Same with getting pushed along at 80mph by a truck because there are no available seats.

Like seriously. Realism as an argument is retarded in Battlefield.
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And every single one of those things should be patched out/fixed.
 
socK said:
Yea cause riding on the wings of planes / jets and sitting on top of fucking helicopters was totally realistic and made perfect sense in previous titles. Same with getting pushed along at 80mph by a truck because there are no available seats.

Like seriously. Realism as an argument is retarded in Battlefield.
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. said:
And every single one of those things should be patched out/fixed.
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I have mixed feelings. Back in BF1942 it was really fun to mess around on a LAN and do all of those things. The problem now is, with no user-run servers, no LAN play, unlocks, etc, they have made BF3 inherently more "serious" a game, and screwing around isn't as fun anymore because it gets you nowhere since everything is "ranked" and most of the time you are on a server with people who want to play seriously.

Basically, I agree that it should all be patched out if the purpose of the game is to make a somewhat competitive game. The current "exploits" just allow people to stat whore and basically cheat, so it makes the game not fun.
 
Valshistixol said:
Suppression is so over the top now it's fucking ridiculous. I don't understand why they changed it.
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because it was mostly worthless before, you could suppress with a 249 and still get headshotted

use squad cover.....

socK said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYQiSG-71c&hd=1
It happens with helicopters too

The L85 is now bugged and has an exploit where it's pinpoint dead center accurate at all times.

The M27 isn't an LMG, it's literally an M4 with a slightly bigger magazine. Weapons like the M249 and PKP handle considerably different (read: now far shittier on the move)
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sorry its a support weapon. I used the 249 for a bit too and didnt notice me sucking with it

but I only played for about an hour and 45 min

I dodged some heatseakers but usually I assumed it was due to my chaff cloud......and I got more than a few AA missle kills....weird
 
stevelopez91 said:
Are you sure about the M4A1 nerf?.. I just checked the patch notes and found this...
"-M4A1: No Change. Well-rounded carbine, with good rate of fire and controllable recoil."

You can verify by checking this link. http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/0...playstation-3-xbox-360-and-pc-will-come-soon/

I think some people are just assuming some of their guns were nerfed as an excuse :D
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The only 'nerf' was for the foregrip/suppressor combo but that is for every gun. Change the suppressor for a heavy barrel and the M4A1 is great.
 
socK said:
Weapons like the M249 and PKP handle considerably different (read: now far shittier on the move)
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I've never tried it, but I imagine it's probably pretty hard to hip-fire a belt fed machine gun in real life also. This isn't Predator.
 
Forceman said:
I've never tried it, but I imagine it's probably pretty hard to hip-fire a belt fed machine gun in real life also. This isn't Predator.
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I'd be thankful if they did nerf LMGs finally. They were total rape machines before.
 
I'm actually thinking about getting the Recon pack too, I'm only lvl 16 right now playing mostly engy and I don't know if I feel like being completly useless for 4 maps before I can actually use a decent gun and kill people.

We'll see....
 
MavericK96 said:
I'd be thankful if they did nerf LMGs finally. They were total rape machines before.
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I was using the Type 88 last night and didn't really see any difference in anything other than the flash suppressor (which works well). It did seem like the bipod was much faster than before, but that may have just been my imgination.
 
Vorret said:
I'm actually thinking about getting the Recon pack too, I'm only lvl 16 right now playing mostly engy and I don't know if I feel like being completly useless for 4 maps before I can actually use a decent gun and kill people.

We'll see....
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when i unlocked stuff for the recon class i just used the non kit-specific smg's like the UMP45 or the PDW. i have to be in a rare mood to actually lay back and snipe using a rifle. usually i find it boring.
 
Forceman said:
I've never tried it, but I imagine it's probably pretty hard to hip-fire a belt fed machine gun in real life also. This isn't Predator.
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depends. 5.56 is easy, 7.62 is pretty hard and not advisable. anyway, on topic: just went 67 - 17 on 48p caspian with m249/3.4x scope/front grip/laser pointer. in short bursts from the hip, it's still deadly.

related thoughts: being suppressed now really hurts. also did some chopperin' on kharg (grinding for laser painter/guided missile in the scout heli...) and boy - heat seekers are really erratic, although they seem to work 8 out of 10 times. i don't use them in the jet though, so cannot confirm the bug.
 
Well, after 140 hours, I think I can say this game really pisses me off. It's just irritating to play, even when I'm doing well.
 
Forceman said:
I've never tried it, but I imagine it's probably pretty hard to hip-fire a belt fed machine gun in real life also. This isn't Predator.
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I've got a video that shows our machine gunner firing a 240B in a firefight from the hip for a considerable burst... is pretty cool :)
 
stevelopez91 said:
Are you sure about the M4A1 nerf?.. I just checked the patch notes and found this...
"-M4A1: No Change. Well-rounded carbine, with good rate of fire and controllable recoil."

You can verify by checking this link. http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/0...playstation-3-xbox-360-and-pc-will-come-soon/

I think some people are just assuming some of their guns were nerfed as an excuse :D
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This is what I'm talking about. Why is it, when a new patch comes out for any game people are always "omg they nerfed what I love omg omg" geez, chill, play the game and don't worry about this stuff.

People think the worst so much so of course, in their mind, it is true.
 
Stayfr0sty said:
Umm AA missiles actually lock on faster now it makes them much more usefull....
They just seemed to decrease the distance of lockon to compensate.



New minimap still sucks, they need to make it like BF2 and with ZOOM buttons.
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Minimap can be zoomed with "N".

Anyway, thanks guys on the jeep horns... indeed, mouse1/fire1 works :D. I can now beep like a maniac as I run people down :p!
 
m3ta1head said:
Can't join any servers post patch. Get the 'Joining Server' message infinitely. I've scoured google and tried every single fix I could find with no luck at all. Multiple browsers, multiple origin/bf3 reinstalls, driver reinstalls, fucking around with punkbuster, registry changes, nothing has worked.

If I try and join a server, battlelog will pop up saying 'Joining Server' and stay like that. It'll open up Origin and show the window that says the game is launching, but bf3.exe never starts and never shows up in task manager.

Fuck this shitty excuse of a game.
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Does anyone have a solution for this problem? The game is completely broken for me.
 
merlin704 said:
Because it's unrealistic. Why should the mines get to stay after death?
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Well.... I dont support the idea of the mines remaining...

But saying its unrealistic is kind of wrong...

If I plant mines and then die... those mines wont disappear just because I died.

:)
 
I generally dont like it when a game goes through major changes like this. You get used to the imbalances of the scars and the quarks of riding the MAV. That's what makes the game what it is then they change it up in a significant way and it feels bizarre, not the experience you grew to enjoy.

I can learn to look past that eventually, but the game is borderline unplayable do to performance issues for me. Worked fine and smooth until this latest patch, now moderate battles drop my frame rates noticeably.
 
Game would have been fine if in the beginning they just removed all lock-on weapons and replaced them with an alternative that required aim, but could be just as effective.

EDIT: Ok, just played for about 15 minutes. WTF DICE? They completely changed aspects of the game. And my 15 minute session? Crash to desktop.
 
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merlin704 said:
Because it's unrealistic. Why should the mines get to stay after death?
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So is you coming back to life in the first place. Some level of "unrealism" is required in order to make it a fun game. If you go up against a tank and lose, then you should actually lose and not be able to respawn and detonate C4 and get kills.
 
wtf. played one round and now have an origin error: invalid license error 0x0006.


goddamn fucking bullshit. I goddamn cant wait until another game comes out so i can quit this abortion of a game.

On help chat right now trying to fix things
 
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