Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

Yeah, I hate it when turning down graphical options could give someone a competitive edge. :(

I guess it is tough to solve problem since there many people with low end computers who are ready to pay 60 Dollars for the game and Dice cannot ignore those.
 
They should still have every bush and form of concealment on low, just make them look really shitty if need be. There should not be an inherent advantage to turning down settings, period.
 
They should still have every bush and form of concealment on low, just make them look really shitty if need be. There should not be an inherent advantage to turning down settings, period.

I might be wrong but all bosshes , trees, grass etc is visible on Low settings. what is missing on Low is some shadows, AA, terrain is a bit more uglt, less particle effects.
 
I watched the whole video and there doesn't seem to be anything damning in it. I think some of you need to go play on a 64 player Metro 24/7 server and then re-assess. Also, never condemn someone because of his/her stats - that's absolute bullshit and got me banned so many times in CS:S; it was ridiculous. To explain it all:

I'm not condemning him just because of his stats - when I first was looking at his profile I was amazed and impressed. Once I watched the Youtube video, I knew it was hacks.

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2) - You'll notice he's in a clan. Playing with competent people in a diversified squad makes this game exponentially easier to play. If he's got back up in the form of squad perks, the random boost, and constant resupply, it just makes it all that much easier.

Watch the video. Teamplay has absolutely nothing to do with the points he's racking up.

3) - Just as a rebuttal to the hacking accusations, you'll also notice he's played all the classes for awhile, with at least two service stars in each. This gives experience and skill in all situations with all weapon types. It's very useful and makes you a more well-rounded player which increases your ability in every class (e.g. learning the patience and discipline of taking aimed shots with a bolt-action rifle can translate to better marksmanship in all classes). You'll also notice he's taken the time to do all the co-op missions.

So have I. When I use the PKP or auto shotty however, I'm not able to keep my crosshair dead center on someone's chest with 0 movement whatsover. Watch this next video, as he's snapping to miniscule heads in the distance that are nearly invisible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAN9D3-W8Q&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

4) - Miscellaneous things like the high accuracy comes from using shotties and rpgs, etc.

Please think through things before branding a good player a hacker; it's unjust and forces consequences on someone just enjoying a game.

P.S. - My soldier as "credentials" - http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/DoctorK6/stats/177418661/

I did think it through, very much. If you want to know the honest truth, I paid for one of the private hacks back in the CS days, and the behavior of the aiming was very much the same as this guys.
 
I'm not condemning him just because of his stats - when I first was looking at his profile I was amazed and impressed. Once I watched the Youtube video, I knew it was hacks.
You clearly don't know hacks then.
Watch the video. Teamplay has absolutely nothing to do with the points he's racking up.
I was explaining his overall stats with that comment, not the video (and I did watch it; there's not a think that's damning in it). And yes, in 24/7 Metro servers you really don't need team play to stack up points simply because everyone knows what the hell to do - there's ammo and health on the ground everywhere and there's usually 3-5 dedicated "revivers" on each team.
So have I. When I use the PKP or auto shotty however, I'm not able to keep my crosshair dead center on someone's chest with 0 movement whatsover.
Then that says something more about you than him, doesn't it?
Watch this next video, as he's snapping to miniscule heads in the distance that are nearly invisible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAN9D3-W8Q&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
And you're watching it through a tiny YouTube video. Go back and watch it in 1080p, those are all easy shots. Hell, there's so many bodies stacking up because that team is getting raped you can guarantee kills by just spraying the corners like he was.
I did think it through, very much. If you want to know the honest truth, I paid for one of the private hacks back in the CS days, and the behavior of the aiming was very much the same as this guys.
Then you should have actually played and learn to be a better player and you wouldn't be making these accusations now. Sorry, but you just sound like any other "upset noob." I used to play CAL matches and we would laugh about how many times we got banned that week, and laugh about people just like you making the accusations much like you are now. Sometimes people who can't fathom the skill/ability they are seeing call bullshit. Honestly, if played one-on-one against xyz famous basketball star (I don't watch the NBA), he'd own you and you wouldn't call bullshit. So why would you do it here?

If you look at it, this guy has his ducks in order. He's got a great frame rate and he's mapped his mouse perfectly. This is how professionals do it. When I used to play CS:S I would hit guys before I rationally thought of it because it was so ingrained as a cerebellar activity. Your mind literally maps the space from your hand and getting a headshot is like catching a ball or picking up a glass of water. I'm not saying the guy isn't a hacker, but there's nothing damning in either of those videos. You should check out videos of CAL matches to get a better idea. Here's the first one YouTube had to start you off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmrMx0rmCPs . The aiming is very much the same - quick, snap, and accurate. It's just practice, practice, and more practice.
 
Thisy guy has a strong right hand. He keeps his mouse so strong that there is no recoil in his gun. I should go to gym to be a better BF3 player, defenetely.

.......... I smells something else other than gym.. :p
 
If you look at it, this guy has his ducks in order. He's got a great frame rate and he's mapped his mouse perfectly. This is how professionals do it. When I used to play CS:S I would hit guys before I rationally thought of it because it was so ingrained as a cerebellar activity. Your mind literally maps the space from your hand and getting a headshot is like catching a ball or picking up a glass of water. I'm not saying the guy isn't a hacker, but there's nothing damning in either of those videos. You should check out videos of CAL matches to get a better idea. Here's the first one YouTube had to start you off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmrMx0rmCPs . The aiming is very much the same - quick, snap, and accurate. It's just practice, practice, and more practice.

:rolleyes: Ok, agree to disagree. Watched plenty of CS videos. I've also played CAL - O, IM, M and I. My clan was top of OGL west and open prior to there even being a CAL or any other league. Played TSO on LAN the year they placed at CPL. I've been playing FPS since Quake, and I know the difference between a top professional and an aimbot. In summary, I don't need to be lectured like some rank noob who runs around calling hax everytime he gets headshot.
 
I might be wrong but all bosshes , trees, grass etc is visible on Low settings. what is missing on Low is some shadows, AA, terrain is a bit more uglt, less particle effects.

Could be, but from that screenshot it looks like there's some stuff missing. Maybe not, though.
 
:rolleyes: Ok, agree to disagree. Watched plenty of CS videos. I've also played CAL - O, IM, M and I. My clan was top of OGL west and open prior to there even being a CAL or any other league. Played TSO on LAN the year they placed at CPL. I've been playing FPS since Quake, and I know the difference between a top professional and an aimbot. In summary, I don't need to be lectured like some rank noob who runs around calling hax everytime he gets headshot.
And I don't mean to come off as lecturing, hence the quotation marks, and sorry if I did. In the spirit of "put up or shut up" I just joined a quick 24/7 match and recorded the whole thing. I tried to play in a style that mimics what the guy in the video was doing, although the teams were fair. I used the PKP, Kobra sight, and silencer to try to get as close as I could. The video is 12GB though, so I'm going to clip it as best I can to get it uploaded ASAP. The point is to show how easy it is to play like that.
 
Thisy guy has a strong right hand. He keeps his mouse so strong that there is no recoil in his gun. I should go to gym to be a better BF3 player, defenetely.

Yeah, you might be right. I stopped using the Pecheneg because of the unbearably silly vertical muzzle climb, which he seems entirely unaffected by. But then it's been some time, like I say, so maybe I'm just misremembering.
 
I watched the whole video and there doesn't seem to be anything damning in it. I think some of you need to go play on a 64 player Metro 24/7 server and then re-assess. Also, never condemn someone because of his/her stats - that's absolute bullshit and got me banned so many times in CS:S; it was ridiculous. To explain it all:

1) - You'll notice his most played class is medic - assault rifles + grenade launcher + revive = shit ton of points. Some more experienced can argue m320 vs. medic pack for points, but either way medic class is the best "points" class.

2) - You'll notice he's in a clan. Playing with competent people in a diversified squad makes this game exponentially easier to play. If he's got back up in the form of squad perks, the random boost, and constant resupply, it just makes it all that much easier.

3) - Just as a rebuttal to the hacking accusations, you'll also notice he's played all the classes for awhile, with at least two service stars in each. This gives experience and skill in all situations with all weapon types. It's very useful and makes you a more well-rounded player which increases your ability in every class (e.g. learning the patience and discipline of taking aimed shots with a bolt-action rifle can translate to better marksmanship in all classes). You'll also notice he's taken the time to do all the co-op missions.

4) - Miscellaneous things like the high accuracy comes from using shotties and rpgs, etc.

Please think through things before branding a good player a hacker; it's unjust and forces consequences on someone just enjoying a game.

P.S. - My soldier as "credentials" - http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/DoctorK6/stats/177418661/
I agree with your entire assessment. I watched the entire video, and even the accused 2:11-2:15...no hack there, I clearly saw a brief glimpse of a body in the smoke and watched his gun aim in the direction then sprayed and prayed. People are forgetting what weapon this guy is using...if this was the same video but someone using a bolt action rifle, then it would be hax.

I myself have played like that on occasion in BFBC2. It did take a couple extra pills of ritalin and several cups of coffee, but it is doable. I saw no damning evidence. Even when he is snapping to other players to shoot, he is not dead center in the crosshairs, but he is still getting kills simply because of the gigantic spread and the ridiculousness of the USAS-12/ext mag/explosive shell combo.

When you get good and in the zone, you can start to predict where people will be. On the cramped maps like this, there are only so many places people can be.

In BC2, I even got to the point where I could hear the enemy rounding the corner of a building and blindly fire a grenade at the ground or wall where they would pop out. People would call hacks on that one all the time.



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So have I. When I use the PKP or auto shotty however, I'm not able to keep my crosshair dead center on someone's chest with 0 movement whatsover. Watch this next video, as he's snapping to miniscule heads in the distance that are nearly invisible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAN9D3-W8Q&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
This video is a bit more damning, but only because of the sheer lack of recoil. I have personally experienced myself where I had an LMG suddenly have zero recoil after an extended burst and all bullets hit on target, but the second I stopped firing, it resumed to normal firing behavior. It also only happens about 1 in 20 times. This guy had zero recoil for every one of those kills. If he was actively compensating for it (by slowly pushing mouse up as you fire) you would notice the telltale sign of the muzzle dropping really low after he fired.
 
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Does BF3 have any VoIP support at all? I've just been through a few levels of coop with my clanmate and there's no way we could have finished without teamspeak.

"I'll take the left, you take the right. 1... 2... 3..."

Sound familiar? :D

When you create a party in Battlelog, you get a voice channel you can create.
 
The best fix for mines, in my opinion, would have been this:

Players may now only have a maximum of (x) [5?] mines on the field at any one time. This limit persists after death and all mines are removed if your kit is changed, with exception of same-life kit swaps.

TBH these needs to apply to all deployables. I think all deployables should persist through lives until somone gets rid of them from the other team. Right now the game just does not reward aggression it rewards camping. Take the claymores. If you die they are gone, so you have no reason to try to move up close to enemy lines and deploy them because you have a high risk of getting killed. It was the only reason I liked AT mines before was they persisted.
 
TBH these needs to apply to all deployables. I think all deployables should persist through lives until somone gets rid of them from the other team. Right now the game just does not reward aggression it rewards camping. Take the claymores. If you die they are gone, so you have no reason to try to move up close to enemy lines and deploy them because you have a high risk of getting killed. It was the only reason I liked AT mines before was they persisted.

AT mines persist on map even after you die 20 times :)
 
I myself have played like that on occasion in BFBC2. It did take a couple extra pills of ritalin and several cups of coffee,

This video is a bit more damning, but only because of the sheer lack of recoil. I have personally experienced myself where I had an LMG suddenly have zero recoil after an extended burst and all bullets hit on target, but the second I stopped firing, it resumed to normal firing behavior.

If you stop the coffee and the drug you will notice that LMG have a bug ( or may be nerf by DICE) ; if you hold the trigger for a long time, yes the recoil disappear , but the bullets too, the bullets hit the guy but it does like if you was shooting a guy in your team, you see the head of the guy move a little bit , but no kill, so you kill no one. It was the same in BFBC2.

I already talk about it. I have to make short burst with a LMG or else no kill..
 
I'm not condemning him just because of his stats - when I first was looking at his profile I was amazed and impressed. Once I watched the Youtube video, I knew it was hacks.

Not even close to hacks man. He's a good player, playing against some horrible players in a metro spam fest that can be easily exploited. I saw no stand out incidents that would lead me to believe he is hacking.
 
mortars need to be nerfed hard. this is nuts.
Yep. Only took the community a month to break that map.

Alright, Adobe was being a POS so I had to use Any Video Convertor to get this to a workable size. The original uncut video is full 2560x1600 and 12.3GB :p. I'll cut and upload a 1080p version if people really want it, but that will take several hours and I think this video gets the point across. This is my entire match from first spawn until round end, I spawned in a bit after the match started I think (flags already capped, I think it's a 750 ticket server). As I mentioned in my previous post, I grabbed a PKP with the Kobra scope and silencer to mimic the other players loadout. Other than that I just played as I would. This is my first real match in two weeks and I only sat down for one, so I wasn't "in the zone" so to say. Probably why I got owned by that MAV :p. Anyway, enjoy, please comment on the likeness to the other video and if it gives any merit to my comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1b9_ajM6Y
 
Not even close to hacks man. He's a good player, playing against some horrible players in a metro spam fest that can be easily exploited. I saw no stand out incidents that would lead me to believe he is hacking.

It helps that he is using the single most overpowered close quarters gun in the game, and even more, that friendly fire is off. He can just randomly spray rounds down the hall and get lucky without worrying about his own team.
 
If you stop the coffee and the drug you will notice that LMG have a bug ( or may be nerf by DICE) ; if you hold the trigger for a long time, yes the recoil disappear , but the bullets too, the bullets hit the guy but it does like if you was shooting a guy in your team, you see the head of the guy move a little bit , but no kill, so you kill no one. It was the same in BFBC2.

I already talk about it. I have to make short burst with a LMG or else no kill..

It's not a bug. They designed it so that sustained fire actually becomes more accurate as you become accustomed to the recoil - it's been like that since 2142.

However, it doesn't always seem to work and in the case of the PKP (with its hugely heavy barrel and frame) the muzzle climb on bursts is hugely exaggerated and the sustained fire just becomes a horrible cone of inaccurate spray.
 
lately ive really lost the "fun" aspect of bf3. BFBC2 I still found fun and BF2 I played for years. BF3 just seems to irritate me. The map designs are off, everything turns into a fuster cluck. Caspian border is fun, Kharg is fun, but the others maps just seems so closed in. Anyone else feel this way?

I cant wait for Karkand.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1b9_ajM6Y

So 720p is borked for some reason, but it's available in 480p for now. Basically I get owned until about 4:00, warm up until about 10:00, around 12:00 I have a good run and it stays decent from there. Anyway, I think the PKP behaves largely the same in my video as it does in the other users, i.e. it looks like no recoil but it's just me compensating for it.
 
lately ive really lost the "fun" aspect of bf3. BFBC2 I still found fun and BF2 I played for years. BF3 just seems to irritate me. The map designs are off, everything turns into a fuster cluck. Caspian border is fun, Kharg is fun, but the others maps just seems so closed in. Anyone else feel this way?

I cant wait for Karkand.

Same here kinda, I want bf2 fun back...
 
lately ive really lost the "fun" aspect of bf3. BFBC2 I still found fun and BF2 I played for years. BF3 just seems to irritate me. The map designs are off, everything turns into a fuster cluck. Caspian border is fun, Kharg is fun, but the others maps just seems so closed in. Anyone else feel this way?.

Same here , my son and I don't want to play tonight. even in pair it's not fun anymore. Give me the taste to try Farmville on Facebook, lol


... He's a good player, playing against some horrible players in a metro spam fest that can be easily exploited. ..


Ya look at the good players I have on my team this afternoon , even this Colonel Carnage ( what a carnage 1/7 ) , I come at the end of the round and manage to finish first ( in my team ) with 3 kills ......lol. I change server right aways after ..Half of those loosers was not even in a squad


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Same here kinda, I want bf2 fun back...

Even though there is "freedom" in the battlefield, It just feels like we are guided and fooled by the ways around the map. In bf2 you could run every possible way to get to the flags. In bf3 its like you only have 2 - 4 ways and easily become camping spots.
 
Even though there is "freedom" in the battlefield, It just feels like we are guided and fooled by the ways around the map. In bf2 you could run every possible way to get to the flags. In bf3 its like you only have 2 - 4 ways and easily become camping spots.

or those coward mortars , of course in city maps as they are to chicken to face an helicopter
 
Guys, we were discussing the video where the guy on the Metro kills 10 ppl in a row with a shotgun and then repeated this trick many times during the video.

I noticed the way he kills many enemies in a row:
1. He drops a couple of smoke grenades to hide himself runnig into enemy crowd.
2. He runs fast past the enemies inside the smoke.
3. He kills like 10 enemies in a row since they do not expect him among them.

I tried this trick on Metro 64 player Conquest Hardcore. I do not have the shotgun unlocked so I used some other automatic gun. Basically, after some practise I was able to run through enemy lines inside the smoke and then to kill 5 to 8 guys in a row. The trick is that enemy didnät expect me to be behind they backs and do not realise who is killing them.

That was fun as hell. I ended round with like 60/20 K/D ratio. This is first time I get that much kills in a round.

The sad thing is that I was the only one using smoke grenades. People really shoud start using those to win.
 
I just make a carnage, I try Squad death match for fun and look at my first round....Top Vilains ( Colonel 13 ) run under the skirt of his mommy


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Guys, we were discussing the video where the guy on the Metro kills 10 ppl in a row with a shotgun and then repeated this trick many times during the video.

I noticed the way he kills many enemies in a row:
1. He drops a couple of smoke grenades to hide himself runnig into enemy crowd.
2. He runs fast past the enemies inside the smoke.
3. He kills like 10 enemies in a row since they do not expect him among them.

I tried this trick on Metro 64 player Conquest Hardcore. I do not have the shotgun unlocked so I used some other automatic gun. Basically, after some practise I was able to run through enemy lines inside the smoke and then to kill 5 to 8 guys in a row. The trick is that enemy didnät expect me to be behind they backs and do not realise who is killing them.

That was fun as hell. I ended round with like 60/20 K/D ratio. This is first time I get that much kills in a round.

The sad thing is that I was the only one using smoke grenades. People really shoud start using those to win.

Thing is you lose the med pack for the grenade launcher. :( With the few medics the team has already losing the med pack can hurt. However I might have to try this with a good squad because it sounds fun. :p
 
When you create a party in Battlelog, you get a voice channel you can create.

I've been wondering about that. We have our own TS3 server so we never bothered. But people keep complaining about lack of VoIP support so i assumed it was just for chatting while on the website and not ingame.
 
TBH these needs to apply to all deployables. I think all deployables should persist through lives until somone gets rid of them from the other team. Right now the game just does not reward aggression it rewards camping. Take the claymores. If you die they are gone, so you have no reason to try to move up close to enemy lines and deploy them because you have a high risk of getting killed. It was the only reason I liked AT mines before was they persisted.

Would really help if the beacon doesn't self destruct every time i respawn. I couldn't join my squad because i have to maintain our spawn point. Which meant spawning on the beacon every time. It's great as a backup spawn point, but you can't put them up in high danger zones or they'll get destroyed by an errant rocket or grenade.
 
I just make a carnage, I try Squad death match for fun and look at my first round....Top Vilains ( Colonel 13 ) run under the skirt of his mommy


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You see scores like that - you kind of have to wonder what's going on. You are 44-4 and no one else even has a positive K/D? You have almost 10x the points of the next guy?

Things that make you go hmmmm.
 
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