Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

WorldExclusive said:
Overall the game is still awesome. Atleast we get Back to Karkand, maybe they save face then.
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There have been strong hints from the images and info from the developers on twitter that the maps will be seriously altered and scaled down. I wouldn't expect anything close to a BF2 experience... on the BF2 maps.

It will be further proof that this game on PC is a joke. Mark my words.
 
Dethred said:
There have been strong hints from the images and info from the developers on twitter that the maps will be seriously altered and scaled down. I wouldn't expect anything close to a BF2 experience... on the BF2 maps.

It will be further proof that this game on PC is a joke. Mark my words.
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Well if that happens, I'll rage also.

BF3 was my last hope for PC gaming. If this game was going to be a letdown, my parts would have been in the FS thread. I can play Skyrim, Batman, GOW3 etc. just fine on the console and finally play Madden again.
So far I'm having a lot of fun, so for now I'm staying with PC gaming. It can still be ruined if they scale down BtK and ask us to pay for all types of DLC.
 
GTA IV on the PC looked barely better than the console version but was demanding as hell..

BF3 is definitely much better looking on the PC and with much broader capabilities (e.g. 64 players) but there are still plenty of wrinkles. I suppose I'm luckier than many of you in that I never played BF2 (BFBC2 was my first Battlefield) so my potential for disappointment is very limited.

Based on what I'm reading I'd have probably reacted in the same way as I did when Epic Games made UT3, after having been a die-hard fan of UT2004.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Well if that happens, I'll rage also.

BF3 was my last hope for PC gaming. If this game was going to be a letdown, my parts would have been in the FS thread. I can play Skyrim, Batman, GOW3 etc. just fine on the console and finally play Madden again.
So far I'm having a lot of fun, so for now I'm staying with PC gaming. It can still be ruined if they scale down BtK and ask us to pay for all types of DLC.
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Unfortunately your (and my) last hope for PC gaming was a console port. Ironic isn't it? I think that's the nail in the coffin. There are games like Heroes and Generals coming out that are PC exclusives, but those developers don't have the resources to compete with all the frills and graphics that developers lure people in with these days.
 
Dethred said:
Unfortunately your (and my) last hope for PC gaming was a console port. Ironic isn't it? I think that's the nail in the coffin. There are games like Heroes and Generals coming out that are PC exclusives, but those developers don't have the resources to compete with all the frills and graphics that developers lure people in with these days.
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You can thank Microsoft for sitting on their shitty Xbox 360 and the stagnation that we're all headed for as consequence.

It's sad that we have to impatiently wait for the lowest bar to get raised and that's not going to happen anytime soon.


That being said, I'm very happy with BF3 as a whole and I feel like the PC version is something to behold and be proud of.
 
friend'scatdied said:
GTA IV on the PC looked barely better than the console version but was demanding as hell..

BF3 is definitely much better looking on the PC and with much broader capabilities (e.g. 64 players) but there are still plenty of wrinkles. I suppose I'm luckier than many of you in that I never played BF2 (BFBC2 was my first Battlefield) so my potential for disappointment is very limited.
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BF2 was a masterpiece. Many didn't like it, but those who did got thousands of hours out of it. Not many non-MMO games can do that these days.
 
The minimap spawn system (which sucks btw) is because of consolitis. it is a lot harder to click on points with a joystick than it is to press down and scroll through the points. CONSOLE PORT
 
Nettwerk said:
Just Cause
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_JIKrjs5IY
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Amazing!





TheResidentEvil said:
The minimap spawn system (which sucks btw) is because of consolitis. it is a lot harder to click on points with a joystick than it is to press down and scroll through the points. CONSOLE PORT
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No, just a crappy choice regardless of platform.


People throw around the console port term too loosely and freely to the point it's lost its meaning.

People just aren't happy with anything anymore, it seems. I wonder if some of you even like games.
 
You people are crazy, this game is fantastic. Yes, it has a few bugs, and for some folks out there the bugs are more prevalent than others. I've been lucky that the only real bugs I've had are the green flicker from my nvidia card.

There can definitley be something said about the UI and the commo-rose implementation, but they are not game breakers, just not the ideal that some folks have in their minds.

The Maps are great, sure Metro is terrible for conquest, but for the most part, 64 player servers are just fine, the maps are large and vast, go from a great mix of CQB to wide open battles across territory. Tehrahn Highway rubberbands no matter what the settings are but I'm sure they will find a way to fix it.

Rush is an insane way to play, so much fun with 32 players and with a team of your friends.

I feel like the people who are complaining must be A) Terrible at the Game B) Running it on a crappy machine C) Suffering from some of the bugs D) All of the above.

I just don't get how you can complain about a game being trash and glad you didn't give it your money. I've got 22 hours into the game, gonz0z, and if I put that into my money spent per hour - 60/22 - thats less than 3 bucks and hour for entertainment in just my first week.
 
Dethred said:
I just wanted to drop in and say "I told you so" to all the people in here that trolled that this was really a PC game.
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Dethred said:
DICE now can comfortably say "Hey, let's say its 'lead PC platform' and all the PC crowd will use that as justification for not giving a fuck about the massive signs that its a console port".
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Dethred said:
So a developer can make a console game and then give it really good graphics and make sure it requires two video cards... and..... Its therefore not a console port?
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Dethred said:
I wouldn't expect anything close to a BF2 experience... on the BF2 maps.
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Dethred said:
It will be further proof that this game on PC is a joke. Mark my words.
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Dethred said:
I think that's the nail in the coffin.
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i can tell you're the kind of guy that walks around the office bumming everybody out. BF3 didn't live up to your expectations. we've all been there before. deal with it and move on.

how can people be so whiny about such a light-hearted hobby?
 
I have BF3 running ultra all the way and have had great game session after great game session at a level that the consoles can only dream of across the boards and yet inevitably I come on here and I see people talking shit. It's not good enough for them. It's long since become a negative cliche about this place I'm sorry to say. You go off these forums and you run into that perception real quick like. It's justified sometimes I guess when I see the likes of this.

I get the line about quality control and bad console ports and complete botches like Rage...I get that. I'm with you all on that.

But to turn around and trash something like this game? Screw it.

Some of you are really hopeless. It's unbelievable.
 
I play all kinds of console ports and I dont even complain one bit about it but seriously suggesting the spawn system is not because of this being a console port even after they admit its a console port is what is unbelievable.
 
Even if it's a straight-up console port... who cares?

If all console ports had this level of quality and played to the strengths of the PC platform, then I wouldn't give a shit if all PC games were console ports.
 
AceCR42 said:
Even if it's a straight-up console port... who cares?

If all console ports had this level of quality and played to the strengths of the PC platform, then I wouldn't give a shit if all PC games were console ports.
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Thank you. Well said. Common sense shows up at last.




TheResidentEvil said:
I play all kinds of console ports and I dont even complain one bit about it but seriously suggesting the spawn system is not because of this being a console port even after they admit its a console port is what is unbelievable.
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You're practically a parody of yourself at this point.

I didn't think the phrase console port could be used that many times in such a short statement. Take a walk outside. Catch your breath.


I agree that spawn system leaves a lot to be desired. But I can't take the leap from that point to condemning the entire game as a piece of shit and a bad console port.

I just can't take that leap with you and a few others and I really can't take any of it seriously. Sorry.
 
I'm having a blast. If all console games are like this, then I'll dust off my Xbox 360... oh wait.... BF3 on console is nothing like this.
 
Ladies and gentlemen,

We just got back from the doctor's office and we have some fantastic news....

Battlefield 3 and I are happy to announce that we are having a baby!

We are so excited!!!
 
AceCR42 said:
Even if it's a straight-up console port... who cares?

If all console ports had this level of quality and played to the strengths of the PC platform, then I wouldn't give a shit if all PC games were console ports.
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This must be the greatest port of all-time. Then what was Crysis 2? I still can't figure that one out.

Many of these same people who cry port will buy Skyrim, a 6GB console title that will called GOTY for PC.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Many of these same people will buy Skyrim, a 6GB console title that most will call GOTY.
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I'll probably be one of them although I think BF3 is probably going to win out.

I'll have to do my cheat which is "GOTY by genres" breakdowns ;)
 
Q-BZ said:
I didn't think the phrase console port could be used that many times in such a short statement. Take a walk outside. Catch your breath.


I agree that spawn system leaves a lot to be desired. But I can't take the leap from that point to condemning the entire game as a piece of shit and a bad console port.

I just can't take that leap with you and a few others and I really can't take any of it seriously. Sorry.
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PC gamers this gen just have a huge persecution complex.

I remember when CDPR announced that Witcher 2 was going to be released on the 360, you'd have dozens of threads everywhere reading "see i always knew this was a console game!". Think about that for a second.


This must be the greatest port of all-time. Then what was Crysis 2? I still can't figure that one out.
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See, Crysis 2 was the textbook definition of a console port. Barebones options and played identical to the console versions. It was improved later on, but I guess the damage was done.
 
AceCR42 said:
PC gamers this gen just have a huge persecution complex.

I remember when CDPR announced that Witcher 2 was going to be released on the 360, you'd have dozens of threads everywhere reading "see i always knew this was a console game!". Think about that for a second.
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I saw it and my reaction was and is: :rolleyes:

The Witcher 2 on the PC is on a different planet vs the console version. Same goes with BF3.


See, Crysis 2 was the textbook definition of a console port. Barebones options and played identical to the console versions. It was improved later on, but I guess the damage was done.
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I'll say it: Crysis 2 NOW, with the stuff in it that should have been there in the first place, is a good game. Not great, but good. Post patches and textures and DX11 it looks awesome.

I don't excuse the half assed and incomplete form it came out on the PC as at all.



At the end of the day, something is either a good game or a bad game. It's that simple, at least for me. YMMV.
 
I do hope DICE spreads out the flags though. The 32-48 player servers are more fun to me than 64 man servers.
 
Porter_ said:
i can tell you're the kind of guy that walks around the office bumming everybody out. BF3 didn't live up to your expectations. we've all been there before. deal with it and move on.

how can people be so whiny about such a light-hearted hobby?
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In case anyone here didn't know what irony was. The above quote is the very definition. This guy spent a few minutes gathering my quotes so he could whine about valid complaints.
 
Q-BZ said:
I agree that spawn system leaves a lot to be desired. But I can't take the leap from that point to condemning the entire game as a piece of shit and a bad console port.

I just can't take that leap with you and a few others and I really can't take any of it seriously. Sorry.
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i didnt say anything about the entire game except the spawn system is because its a console port. you wont even find a single post in this entire thread saying my review of the game at all. I pre-order it and have like 2 hours in. I don't have an opinion besides the spawn system and it sucks.
 
WorldExclusive said:
I do hope DICE spreads out the flags though. The 32-48 player servers are more fun to me than 64 man servers.
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No question.

Spawn killing happens by accident all the time. No question refinement needs to be done on the entire "spawning mechanism" of the game.


The best game I've played by far was last night on one of our TDM servers and it was a small crew of about 6 people per team.

Hell, I even netted positive on my kill-death ratio and it worked out great.



TheResidentEvil said:
i didnt say anything about the entire game except the spawn system is because its a console port. you wont even find a single post in this entire thread saying my review of the game at all. I pre-order it and have like 2 hours in. I don't have an opinion besides the spawn system and it sucks.
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Sorry I misread you. :)
 
The denials of this being a console port despite the developer admitting it... they sustain me.
 
Dethred said:
The denials of this being a console port despite the developer admitting it... they sustain me.
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Can you be more specific about what you don't like about the game? I may have missed earlier posts from you in this regard but at least here recently all I'm seeing is vague comments like these with nothing behind them.

There's good console ports and bad console ports.


In this situation, I don't know how someone can't at least concede that this isn't a very good console port in a worst case scenario.



Blue_Scholar said:
I'm interested in that particular statement, can you please guide me to a link where they confirm this. Thanks.
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Same here.
 
Blue_Scholar said:
I'm interested in that particular statement, can you please guide me to a link where they confirm this. Thanks.
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"We said originally that the PC was the lead SKU of the game, but in mid-production we switched to console as lead platform to make sure we could get all the versions done for release," Troedsson confirmed.
 
think they are talking about the fact that DICE stated that they went from a PC focus to a console focus mid way through development..

They probably really swtiched "because PC players are whiny bitches and we are sick of hearing them complain."
 
In fact all that statement tells me is that this was planned as a true PC title from the start, since they had to shift focus rapidly to even get the console versions out in time.

The alternative would have been to delay the console versions till next year which would have meant millions lost in sales.
 
TheToE! said:
"We said originally that the PC was the lead SKU of the game, but in mid-production we switched to console as lead platform to make sure we could get all the versions done for release," Troedsson confirmed.
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Ok. Fair enough.


All I can go by is the final product and I see a pretty friggin' great game so I'm still waiting for the haters to get more specific about their complaints with the game.
 
Dethred said:
In case anyone here didn't know what irony was. The above quote is the very definition. This guy spent a few minutes gathering my quotes so he could whine about valid complaints.
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your 'valid complaints' are nothing more than you bitching and moaning.
 
Dethred said:
The denials of this being a console port despite the developer admitting it... they sustain me.
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Watch, they'll start coming out of the woodwork. Prolly by the time I hit submit on this post, there will already be some DDR's(DICE-DICK-RIDERS) defending them. Just watch!;) BTW! Q-BZ....I'm not throwing you into that group, your posts are well thought out, and it's clear your not a mindless fanboy.
 
TheToE! said:
Watch, they'll start coming out of the woodwork. Prolly by the time I hit submit on this post, there will already be some DDR's(DICE-DICK-RIDERS) defending them. Just watch!;) BTW! Q-BZ....I'm not throwing you into that group, your arguments are well thought out, and it's clear your not a mindless fanboy.
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i'm sure most of us don't care if people don't like the game; it's not our creation or hard work. but the never ending whine-fest is grating. if i don't like a game i'll make a post or two saying that. i won't hang around the thread bitching. it's like a bunch of women in here.
 
TheToE! said:
"We said originally that the PC was the lead SKU of the game, but in mid-production we switched to console as lead platform to make sure we could get all the versions done for release," Troedsson confirmed.
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And what is your point? I could care less if they designed it for a TI-82 calculator - I'm playing the game right now, and it is amazing. Seriously, you guys are like some kind of religious fanatics - you could find a Mother Teresa, find some stupid comment she made a while back and then make her out to be Satan.

Remove the stick from your asses and enjoy the best MP FPS ever made. The visuals, the feel of the game, is fantastic. Never have I felt that I move through an environment so naturally as in BF3; just the little touches of vaulting a low obstacle rather than some unnatural CS crouch+jump adds so much. And playing a map like Seine Crossing is just unbelivable; for the first day or two half of my "playing" time was just staring at awe at what was going on around me. It still happens every now and then, where I actually pause and go, "Wow."

But, I know this post won't do anything, back to your regular scheduled negativity and pointless hate.
 
Q-BZ said:
Ok. Fair enough.

All I can go by is the final product and I see a pretty friggin' great game so I'm still waiting for the haters to get more specific about their complaints with the game.
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I'm not a hater, I'm actually enjoying the game but I do have some issues with the game in it's current state.

Squads - There is still no easy way for you to create a squad with your friends. If you have a group of 4 people and you join a server with more than 75% capacity, you'll most likely wind up on opposite teams and very likely on different squads. Trying to change squads and get everyone on the same one is nearly impossible, especially once the server fills up.

Party Joining - Certain browsers don't display the popups properly, and others are hindered by anti-virus. Options are to disable anti-virus (no thanks) or use a browser that you don't want to. For me, I'm still unable to get it to work properly on any browser even when I disable my anti-virus.

Rubber banding - I know a lot of people recommend disabling Hyperthreading to achieve better results, but it doesn't work for everyone. Like man other people, I have some video/audio encoding that I do when I'm not gaming so disabling/enabling HT constantly is not really a good option. I still think there are issues with the netcode that are causing this.

Mouse issues - There are numerous documented cases (and videos) of the stuttering, input lag, negative acceleration and other mouse issues. The sensitivity adjustments and "Raw" mouse are not clearly defined so it's difficult to find a solution. I finally found decent settings after playing around with the in-game settings and my drivers but it still doesn't feel quite right.​

I could go on, but I'll stop here. The bottom line is that there are plenty of valid issues that need to be addressed. You can't simply dismiss these as someone being a "hater" when they clearly need to be fixed. But I have some faith that DICE/EA will fix these things in due time.
 
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