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ATI Catalyst 5.7

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Release Notes

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Issues Resolved in Catalyst™ Software Suite 5.7
The following section provides a summary of the issues that have been resolved in the latest version of Catalyst™. These include:

Flight Sim 2004: Launching the application under Windows XP and enabling Anisotropic Filtering (AF) within the Catalyst™ Control Center no longer results in the AF functionality not being enabled within the game
Trackmania Sunrise: Playing the game under Windows XP no longer results in the operating system failing to respond when attempting to exit the game after leaving the PC idle for an extended period of time
Warcraft III: Playing the game under Windows XP no longer results in display corruption being noticed when rotating the display 90 degrees counter-clockwise.
Creating a custom hot-key for rotation currently no longer results in the custom hot-key to become unavailable for the secondary display device when extended desktop is enabled and the display devices are set to 1280x1024.
Changing the format from NTSC to any PAL format no longer results in the PAL format not working.
Changing the regional option found in the control panel to Japan followed by installing the display driver no longer results in the TV format failing to change in accordance with the regional option
Changes to the Overlay Display in Clone Mode option found in the Theater Mode settings of the Catalyst™ Control Center are now retained
The Scale to full screen option found in the Theater Mode Settings of the Catalyst™ Control Center is now working properly
Rotating the display by 180 degrees no longer results in all the text on the desktop failing to appear
Truncated text in the localized French version of the Catalyst™ Control Center is now resolved
The profile manager hotkey notification dialog box is now translated for all supported languages
ATI Color Controls can now be reactivated using a hotkey combination if the ATI Color Controls have changed by the color management tool of a third party application
The TV is now detected when both the SVIDEO and the Composite connectors are used
Windows Movie Maker 2.0: The Movie maker preview playback no longer displays a blank image when attempting to playback an mpeg file
Windows Movie Maker 2.0: Attempting to record a TV source for 6 hours or more, no longer results in audio corruption being heard after approximately 4 hours of recording
Subtitles are now displayed when playing a DVD under Windows XP Media Center Edition
The Catalyst™ Control Center Hotkey Manager is now completely localized for Japanese

Known Issues for Catalyst™ Software Suite 5.7
The following section provides a brief description of known issues associated with the latest version of Catalyst™. These include the following:

Archlord: Playing the game under Windows XP SP2 may result in intermittent display corruption being noticed on the lower portion of the display device when moving the character within the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19788
Battlefield 2: Geometry corruption or missing textures maybe noticed when playing the game for an extended period of time under Windows XP with an ATI Radeon® X800 XT installed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19709
City of Heroes: Playing the game under Windows XP Media Center Edition may results in display corruption being notice when attempting to task-switch between the game and the desktop. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19792
Doom3: Playing the game under Windows XP Media Center Edition may result in a noticeable performance decrease or corruption of the MCE on-screen display dialog box when lowering or muting the audio during game play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19791
Farcry: Playing the game under Windows XP SP2 with the display set to 1024x76832bpp along with AA disabled results in flashing textures being noticed when setting the game's video options to high detail. This issue is know to occur when using an ATI Radeon® 9100 or 8500 series product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-10089
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas: Playing the game under Windows XP with an ATI Radeon™ 8500 installed and having Anti-Aliasing set to 2x may result in corruption being noticed in menu corruption being noticed within the game when the display resolution is set to 1024x768. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19794
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas: Geometry corruption may be noticed when running the mission under Windows XP and using the default setting for the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19795
Gunz Online: Attempting to change the screen brightness within the game may result in the operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19793
MU Online: Opening a chat window and playing the on-line game results in Hesitation being noticed when pressing the Enter key. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19541
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time: Attempting to launch the game under Windows with an ATI Radeon™ X800 series installed results in an error message being displayed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19787
Rainbow six3: Athena Sword: Playing the game under Windows 2000 with an ATI Radeon® X700 installed results in the game failing to retain its resolution option of 1600x1200 if you Alt-tab out of the game and then Alt-tab back to the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-535
Serious Sam: The Second Encounter: Playing the game for approximately 5 to 10 minutes under Windows XP with the game quality set at normal/default, results in display corruption being seen in the menu. Further details can be found in topic number 737-10090
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Saving a game and attempting to load the saved game under Windows XP results in the preview window display a blank preview screen. Further details can be found in topic number
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: Running the Dantoonie level of the game may result in hesitation being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19378
World of Warcraft: Enabling Full-Screen Glow in the game may result in a blue screen image being displayed when walking under water. This issue is know to occur when using an ATI Radeon® 9100 or 8500 series product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19075
World of Warcraft: Display corruption is noticed when switching between the game and the Windows desktop, when the desktop is set to 1280x1024 and the graphic preferences is set to Optimal Quality. Further details can be found in topic number
The Apply button in the Custom settings of the Advanced mode found under the Catalyst™ Control Center Video standard settings is grayed out when playing a media file. Further details can be found in topic number 737-497
Changing the DPI setting found in the General tab of the display properties to Large size (120 DPI) results in the change not taking effect when launching the Catalyst™ Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-18885
Installing Realtek Audio/Marvel Lan driver under Windows 2000 results in the operating system failing to respond when performing the ATI driver installation. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19543
Creating a custom hot-key for rotation currently results in the custom hot-key to become unavailable for the secondary display device when extended desktop is enabled and the display devices are set to 1280x1024. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19542
Connecting two display devices using the DVI and CRT connectors on a system containing an ATI Xpress 200 results in the system failing to resume when entering standby state. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19538
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Thank you, those things under known issues for 5.7 dont sound too good o_O

Battlefield 2: Geometry corruption or missing textures maybe noticed when playing the game for an extended period of time under Windows XP with an ATI Radeon® X800 XT installed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-19709

I will wait to see reviews and sorts..


 
Nothing in the fixes to indicate I really need to uodate. 5.6 will be fine for me.
 
heh, me too...looking, ooh, performance increases, my x800pro will....er, wait....
 
Enhancements to our driver's internal memory management bring significant benefits to 64MB and 128MB framebuffer configurations in Catalyst™ 5.7.

The resulting performance gains are most apparent in high resolution, everything on modes, when running applications that use a significant amount of graphics memory. Examples include:

* 5-15% gains in 3DMark05 on some products
* 20-60% gain in Far Cry Regulator across multiple settings
* 25-60% gains in Half-Life 2 at 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF
* 40-60% gains in UT2004 at 1600x1200 6xAA 16xAF
* 50-100% improvement in Comanche4 at 1600x1200 6xAA 16xAF
* 50-200% gains in certain ShaderMark tests at high resolution
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that sounds good.
 
Damnit.. I can only look at those projected performance increases and curse at my nvidia card :p
 
From what I've heard those performance increases apply to 64MB and 128MB cards. Those of us w/X800 cards can forget about those huge increases.
 
benefits to 64MB and 128MB framebuffer configurations
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This does refer to video ram right? Too bad the improvements are at resolutions and settings I can't play at anyway...
 
Most importantly, 64 and 128meg cards should't be running those res's anyway.
25-60% increases in HL2.....Well jumping from 15 to 21fps is about 60% but it won't help much.
 
One of my friends played HL2 on a 9800pro. It was probably 128mb. And he's REALLY picky about frame rates.
 
When installing I had a really bad problem with the catalyst control panel part (it simply wouldn't install) and when I try and remove it, all the files were deleted but it stays in the control panel's add/remove software list. I'm going to have a thorough uninstall and driver/reigstry clean and redownload them, hope this resolves the problem :)
 
Well just tried two more times and I cannot get CCC working, there's no icon or anything, it's just in the add/remove software list. Is it possible for me to use the 5.6 CCC with the 5.7 drivers?

*EDIT*

Does 'Internal Error 2753' ring any bells? I can't find information anywhere for my problem, I'll try the drivers with the CP and if that doesn't work it's back to omega 5.4's.
 
CleanSlate said:
Those percentage increases sound sexy.
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They sound to me more like a blatant attempt by ATi to boost their benchmarking portfolio! The list of programs that benefit most from the 'improved internal memory management' (remember that old chestnut?) read like a who's-who of popular video card review benchmarks. I mean... 3DMark05, Commanche4, ShaderMark, SPECviewperf - how many of you guys are 'playing' any of them right now?

Don't think this is just me having a pop at ATi - I'll bet NVIDIA do *exactly* the same shit but this is just so....shameless. C'mon ATi don't be so barefaced about your benchmarking optimizations. Now c'mon guys - show me some real gains in real games! :)
 
coz said:
They sound to me more like a blatant attempt by ATi to boost their benchmarking portfolio! The list of programs that benefit most from the 'improved internal memory management' (remember that old chestnut?) read like a who's-who of popular video card review benchmarks. I mean... 3DMark05, Commanche4, ShaderMark, SPECviewperf - how many of you guys are 'playing' any of them right now?

Don't think this is just me having a pop at ATi - I'll bet NVIDIA do *exactly* the same shit but this is just so....shameless. C'mon ATi don't be so barefaced about your benchmarking optimizations. Now c'mon guys - show me some real gains in real games! :)
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n00b of chulak, they're not going to list each and every single game that performance will increase in. Note they said titles that use a large amount of graphics memory, which isn't limited to the ones they showed.
 
tornadotsunamilife said:
Brent! Can you save me from the perils that is my installation of CCC with this driver set?
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Did you try the Catalyst Uninstall Program that you can download from ATI?

Go to where you download the Cat 5.7 drivers, there is a utility called "CATALYST Uninstaller", it's 300KB. Give it a whirl, to make sure everything is uninstalled.

Then re-install Cat 5.7 with CCC
 
I've tried everything. I've ran driver cleaner, catalyst uninstaller, third-party uninstallers, registry cleaners, wiped my temporary files etc. (all in safe mode) I constantly get the error 'Internal Error 2753. atishylx.exe.' (not sure if that's the exact right spelling). Looks like I may have to wirte a 'ticket' or something :(
 
coz said:
They sound to me more like a blatant attempt by ATi to boost their benchmarking portfolio! The list of programs that benefit most from the 'improved internal memory management' (remember that old chestnut?) read like a who's-who of popular video card review benchmarks. I mean... 3DMark05, Commanche4, ShaderMark, SPECviewperf - how many of you guys are 'playing' any of them right now?

Don't think this is just me having a pop at ATi - I'll bet NVIDIA do *exactly* the same shit but this is just so....shameless. C'mon ATi don't be so barefaced about your benchmarking optimizations. Now c'mon guys - show me some real gains in real games! :)
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But I bet a whole lot of people play:

* 20-60% gain in Far Cry Regulator across multiple settings (to some extent anyway)
* 25-60% gains in Half-Life 2 at 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF
* 40-60% gains in UT2004 at 1600x1200 6xAA 16xAF
 
Ok this is me with the 'new drivers' apparantly

This is only recognition I get that CCC has been installed (ignore the previous two with the AVG icon next to them, I have no idea why they are there and have stopped bothering after two months) and I therefore presume I'm using the 5.7 catalyst driver set. I've downloaded the file several times to make sure there's no corruption and if i choose to 'repair' the CCC installation then I just restart and end back at square 1. There are no icons or files for this CCC and I have no idea what to do.
I've been on rage3d, google etc. and it seems I'm the only one with the problems. I think I may just go back to the 5.4 omegas.
 
Ruiner said:
Most importantly, 64 and 128meg cards should't be running those res's anyway.
25-60% increases in HL2.....Well jumping from 15 to 21fps is about 60% but it won't help much.
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Hah, I ran my old 6600GT & P4 3.0E at 1680x1050. Only thing that's different now is that I can actually have AA on without sacrificing performance.

Anyhow, my 3dmark05 score remained exactly the same, as well as my CS:S stress test score (give or take 1fps).
 
5.7 just corrupted some of my (agp).sys files and made it such that I could not see anything (black screen) when I came into windows, not even in safe mode, I had to recover windows to get it to work.

Be wary, even if it was just a horrendous HD failure at the same time 5.7 was giving me hell.

~Adam
 
FanATIc said:
CCC is peachy under Win64
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Not here. It installs, shows an icon...but when I try to access it....nothing. I can uninstall it and it removes the tab from the display properties too....
 
TheRapture said:
Not here. It installs, shows an icon...but when I try to access it....nothing. I can uninstall it and it removes the tab from the display properties too....
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You install .Net Framework 1.1?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3&displaylang=en

oddly enough it doesnt have Win64 under supported OS, but it does work, just runs like any other 32bit app until they release 2.0 which will have official 64 support. It will also come up with a window right before installing saying theres a problem with the build, and it gives a list of about 4 steps, dont forget to do that or it may not work correctly.

I'v had a bitch of a time figuring out a safe way to remove drivers, and the catuninstallers do not work correctly on this mostly because the build is 2 years old. Safest way i'v been okay with is getting Drivercleaner Pro, updating it, uninstall all the old drivers manually through control panel, rebooting in safe mode (F8 right before windows load screen), and running Driver Cleaner for all ATI related files, reboot again to normal and installing the CCC package. This worked without a hitch.
 
coz said:
They sound to me more like a blatant attempt by ATi to boost their benchmarking portfolio! The list of programs that benefit most from the 'improved internal memory management' (remember that old chestnut?) read like a who's-who of popular video card review benchmarks. I mean... 3DMark05, Commanche4, ShaderMark, SPECviewperf - how many of you guys are 'playing' any of them right now?

Don't think this is just me having a pop at ATi - I'll bet NVIDIA do *exactly* the same shit but this is just so....shameless. C'mon ATi don't be so barefaced about your benchmarking optimizations. Now c'mon guys - show me some real gains in real games! :)
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Actually you will find that we have improved performance for 64 and 128MB cards for many different games. The memory management stuff is not just specific to benchmarks. The reason why in our release notes we highlight benchmarks is because we can actually measure scientifically the improvments. We cant make statements about games without benchmarks becuase it would sound fishy. Imagine if the notes read:

Guild Wars is now faster
Lego Star wars is alot faster,
Sims2 is a bit faster.

you know what I mean?
 
Brent_Justice said:
Go to where you download the Cat 5.7 drivers, there is a utility called "CATALYST Uninstaller", it's 300KB.
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Don't know why, but that version of CAT Uninstaller is an older build. There's a newer build available (6.14.10.1010) that's about 40KB larger.

CATALYST MAKER said:
Imagine if the notes read:

Guild Wars is now faster
Lego Star wars is alot faster,
Sims2 is a bit faster.
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LOL
 
Talonz said:
But I bet a whole lot of people play:

* 20-60% gain in Far Cry Regulator across multiple settings (to some extent anyway)
* 25-60% gains in Half-Life 2 at 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF
* 40-60% gains in UT2004 at 1600x1200 6xAA 16xAF
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At those res+AA settings with 64MB and 128MB cards? :confused:
 
CATALYST MAKER said:
you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I see your point Terry. I've just learned over the years to be sceptical when you and your evil twin (who works for the NV Forceware team ;)) release a new driver promising huge gains that never materialise in the user's actual gaming experience. When I see some independent benchmarking by users and hardware review sites showing those same gains with playable frame-rates in real games (as opposed to synthetic benchmarks) then I'll become a true believer.

Hell, I'll even send you a beer for doing such a great job on the drivers. :)
 
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