Assembling a high capacity NAS

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  1. carlmart

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    Nothing?

    You can get 'X540' cards from many vendors. There are Intel branded ones, but it's a chipset that is / was widely used. Indistinguishable in practice.
     
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    This guy has experienced what he is saying. I know because so I have I. ALL DRIVES DIE & data corruption is real.

    The worst server recovery I have ever have to done was from an array that was corrupting data for months before we realized. Millions of documents rarely accessed. Most of our backups contained bad data by the time we realized. We got lucky and had a few years old tape backups around to restore data as we came across corrupted files.
     
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    If there's no difference, then I'll go for the new Intel old models cheaper ones. I can't find any X540 cards sold for a similar price.
     
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    I am pretty sure the Intel i350 is the last NIC Intel ever made for the 1gb speed area. It launched in 2014 along with the X540 for 10gb NICs. The PRO/1000 came out in 2005 I believe.
    After the i350 Intel stopped making 1gb cards because there is no point as they have alll the features thewy can ever need and the customer base moved past them. The lowest speed card they make is 10gb now, and the newest one of that is the X722 series. However that series only comes in fiber connectivity options. The newest 10gb Intel NIC with RJ45 copper connectors is the X710, which came out in 2016.
    The differences between the chipsets are that each generation gets more server features, like the new ones have RDMA. A couple gens back they have things like iSCSI storage over Ethernet, and each generation can offload more tasks to the NIC which frees up CPU resources as well as consumes less power. Unless you plan to use any of the server features then the newer ones really dont matter. Like for basic NAS use, you wont really use them. But if you were setting this up as a SAN instead, you would want a newer card.
     
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    Yep single 8TB or 10TB 5400rpm 256mb cache, and if you keep the casing you can reinstall them in the enclosure in the event of a failure for a 2y warranty.
     
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    Pity they can only be used for RAID NAS.
     
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    Not sure what you mean? They can be used as regular drives just fine.
     
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    This is what I read about what HDD to use:

    Long story short, here is what I suggest:

    • Install a NAS hard drive for RAID and NAS setup. The WD Red and Seagate IronWolf drives are good for this type of use. If the prices are similar, go for the Pro version as they offer a longer warrantee period.
    • Install a regular version for desktop use like the WD Blue or Seagate BarraCuda. If budget permits, get the faster WD Black or Seagate BarraCuda Pro version. They also comes with five years warrantee against two for the basic model.
     
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    That notation is accurate yes but its a hierarchy in the sense that the NAS drives can be used for the regular purposes.
    You just have unused features you don't need/wouldn't use and a higher cost compared to the desktop drives, thats why they're recommended in that way.
    The easystore drives are comparable NAS drives and are in external USB enclosures intended for 'desktop' use even.
     
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    The enterprise seagate is a better drive though. I prefer 7200rpm because you get 70-100MB/s more speed on it, and the enterprise type would probably mean it has a 5 year warranty.
    This drive is pretty good, in that it is a latest generation helium filled model. However it does run 10MB/s slower than a standard WD Red, which is already slower than the seagate ones. And then you have warranty issues as well on these ones. But hey, they sure are cheap.
     
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    I would like to see your testing and data on that, I could see 20-30MB/s faster but 70-100? That has to be burst and/or caching on those instances.
    7200 RPM are only about 20% faster factoring the same capacity, cache size, brand, and drive type.

    Sustained reading/writing from what I've seen on most HDD are about 105-110Mb/s for 5400 rpm and 7200rpm about 125-130 depending on the head location.
     
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    Ive just always seen my 7200rpm Seagates around 300-330MB/s, while my 5400RPM drives are typically around 200-220MB/s, with absolute peak never having gone above 250MB. Review I looked up on these white label EasyStore's also showed them almost in the 200MB range


    EDIT: loked up some reviews on the 10TB seagates and they are showing around 250MB/s for them. So IDK maybe I am remember burst speeds.
     
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    Likely, but no worries, just trying to get ya informed.

    You can peak and valley the ranges alot more looking at a larger sample size check out some of the data here: https://hdd.userbenchmark.com/