Are you still using Windows XP? If so, why?

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On the Ghost Recon: Future Soldier forums (side note: newest patch still hasn't fixed the game? Three fucking patches and the game is still broken, how is this even possible?! What exactly are you "patching"?! Anyways...) and there a lot of people on there bitching about the fact that no Windows XP fix has come out yet as Ubi said they would eventually support it.

My question is...why? What self respecting PC gamer in the year 2012 is still trying to use XP, I mean, whats the point EXACTLY? From what I've read it BARELY supports DX10 citing major stability issues, DX11 isn't even possible. I've been using Windows 7 since it was released and have never had any issues playing any games out. Why are people, especially gamers, holding on the XP like as if Windows 7 is some plaque?

Unless some gamers are still using some ATI RAGE Pro I just don't get it!

So, are you still using Windows XP, if so, why exactly?
 
Subscribing just to see the reasons posted - I'm genuinely curious as well.
 
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest? This includes operating systems...?
I know in the business world XP is used an order of magnitude over Windows Vista and Windows 7 combined. In the gaming world, I expect it comes down to money.
 
I use XP on one gaming system and Windows 7 on another. What I like about XP if the low overhead and compatibility with older games. Windows 7 always seems to be doing something in the background. I see so much disk activity at all times even with very little going on.
 
Rizen said:
You're assuming that everyone pays for Windows.
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Also, Win7 has been something like $30 a number of times. If you can afford the games to play on it and the high-end hardware, you can afford Windows 7.
 
MavericK96 said:
Also, Win7 has been something like $30 a number of times. If you can afford the games to play on it and the high-end hardware, you can afford Windows 7.
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^This. It's not about the money when you're dropping $200+ for graphics cards and $20-$60 a pop for games.
 
Actually to be frank I'm planning to run xp on my arcade box. I'm using a lot of older apps an emus that don't want to play nice with windows 7.

Also my copy of Icewind Dale runs like shit in Windows 7. I'm thinking about installing it in Virtual PC but it's been low on my priorities.

Lastly so I have this issue I was curious about because I'm dumb. When I set a program to run as administer that fucking dialog comes up asking me if it's ok to run it every fucking time. Wtf does it do that if it's set to run as admin???????

(Yes I know what xp compatibility mode is , no it doesn't help in these specific apps I'm running.)
 
Windows XP has this cool blue taskbar, plus it runs on older computers.
 
MavericK96 said:
Also, Win7 has been something like $30 a number of times. If you can afford the games to play on it and the high-end hardware, you can afford Windows 7.
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even OEM runs for 99$ and I dont think its a matter of afford anyways.. i think most people would just rather get it for free since it is so readily available... for free.

Rizen said:
You're assuming that everyone pays for Windows.
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^this


JacobC1983 said:
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest? This includes operating systems...?
I know in the business world XP is used an order of magnitude over Windows Vista and Windows 7 combined. In the gaming world, I expect it comes down to money.
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i work for a pretty large corporation and they still use XP... licensing is expensive as shit.
 
I still use XP on my netbook. Don't game on it though. On my gaming machine it's Windows 7. Of course I got it free from my University.

I don't really blame people for staying on XP. For many people there's little reason to do it. For many it still costs money. And unless you have some powerful GPU, there's still not much difference to the gamer whether it's running DX9 or DX10 or whatever.

So the counter question to "why are you still using XP?" is "why should I upgrade?". Us nerds sometimes forget upgrading is actually a pain in the arse for many people opposed to fun or even just matter of course.
 
One of the main reasons for upgrading from XP IMO would be for the 4+ GB RAM support, as well as DX10/11. Plus, the automatic driver installation/support on 7 is WAY easier than XP. It's just a lot less work to get up and running.

(This is coming from someone who generally does a reformat more than once a year)
 
MavericK96 said:
Also, Win7 has been something like $30 a number of times. If you can afford the games to play on it and the high-end hardware, you can afford Windows 7.
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This, I paid around that for most of my licenses. It is very affordable.
 
I have one system in the house that runs XP. Two reasons, one, it's a early version netbook, two, it runs HPTuners without issue. Which is a boon to the turbocharged basketcase sitting in the driveway.

No point in wasting money on what works as it is.
However, most of my time is spent on newer hardware systems and I have no wish to run XP on them.
Occasionally I hanker for an old school game from the 90's I wish to relive, but for the most part I have no use for XP anymore.
 
MavericK96 said:
One of the main reasons for upgrading from XP IMO would be for the 4+ GB RAM support, as well as DX10/11. Plus, the automatic driver installation/support on 7 is WAY easier than XP. It's just a lot less work to get up and running.

(This is coming from someone who generally does a reformat more than once a year)
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Yeah none of that is terribly compelling for a lot of people. The one guy I know running XP on his gaming rig only has 4GB, 9000 series nvidia card (don't remember which one) so DX9 vs DX10/11 isn't all that important to him and he only installs new drivers when he needs them and usually gets me to install them for him :p
 
Well, I game on my Win7 machine, but I still have an old laptop with XP. XP still does just about everything you need for daily use, aside from gaming and media production. The only issues I run into on my old machine are not XP related, but hardware limits due to a slow CPU and limited RAM (can't stream 1080p flash).
 
I doubt they have re-vamped it in the last few years, but if it really has improved I'd be impressed. The main problem was driver and application support, which was mediocre at best. I had a ton of problems getting some basic hardware and stuff like Daemon Tools to work properly with it.

I mainly tried it because I wasn't a fan of Vista, but with 7 now there doesn't seem to be much reason to go back.
 
MavericK96 said:
I doubt they have re-vamped it in the last few years, but if it really has improved I'd be impressed. The main problem was driver and application support, which was mediocre at best. I had a ton of problems getting some basic hardware and stuff like Daemon Tools to work properly with it.

I mainly tried it because I wasn't a fan of Vista, but with 7 now there doesn't seem to be much reason to go back.
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Vista was absolute shit hahaha fucking worst networking support ever implemented in an OS.

Windows 7 is basically XP efficiency with Vista convenience. Driver support is amazing and I have had no issues at all.
 
vista worked fine.... networking support? explain?

i had vista on most of our office workstations for over a year with out issues...
 
JacobC1983 said:
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest? This includes operating systems...?
I know in the business world XP is used an order of magnitude over Windows Vista and Windows 7 combined. In the gaming world, I expect it comes down to money.
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This only really applies to Rolex's, Cars, and things that are 3x the cost of something reasonable, not operating systems.

dremic said:
even OEM runs for 99$ and I dont think its a matter of afford anyways.. i think most people would just rather get it for free since it is so readily available... for free.
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I think discussing Piracy = not allowed on here.

Rizen said:
You're assuming that everyone pays for Windows.
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...really? My appetizer I had the other night cost more than Windows, I think it's an affordable thing for anyone that considers gaming these days.
 
Because Win 7 on a beefy rig (mine) is fast as hell, its not hell bent on freeing up as much ram as possible all day every day and letting your rig go into paging file slow-fest like XP does, even with boat loads of ram XP always annoyed me w/ this behavior (and yes i know and did all the all the registry hacks to try get it to play nice ect.)!

Upgrading most drivers w/o an annoying restart instead of XP's "we detected something may have changed -restart NOW...bitch." MASSIVE improvements in the GUI! Just hold Ctrl and mouse wheel up or down to change size of icons - very useful for me as I have folders with literally THOUSANDS of pics from screen shots to other crap. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the ability to drag a window to the side of your screen and have it autosize to ½ the screen or drag to the top or hold the win key and use arrows to quickly move them -useful for backup operations when you don’t wanna deal w/ folder comparison proggys to look @ stuff. I never vista, but I also like some desktop gadgets running, hd usage meter, network w/ bandwidth used for the month, cpu usage. Areo is smooth as butter,

I HATED XP’s pos GDi+ choppy lagfest for rendering, and even with proper drivers and a GPU it just feels chunky to use Vs. 7 now. With dosbox, and virtual machines… there is no reason for me to use XP anymore… Infact if you have hardware similar to my rig and are still on XP I would submit to you that you should try 7 for a month… I mean geez… the boot time ALONE sells people on 7 lol :cool:
 
BiH115 said:
This only really applies to Rolex's, Cars, and things that are 3x the cost of something reasonable, not operating systems.
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this is your opinion and if you think otherwise, you're ignorance is pathetic.

Through college and medical school I saw several poor student gamers stay with XP through windows 7 days to save funds for more games while they worked and had student loans.. Get out of your ego.
 
JacobC1983 said:
this is your opinion and if you think otherwise, you're ignorance is pathetic.

Through college and medical school I saw several poor student gamers stay with XP through windows 7 days to save funds for more games while they worked and had student loans.. Get out of your ego.
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I had all kinds of debt, and I'm up to my eyeballs in student loans, that doesn't mean shit. Ontop of that I had to support several family members and myself, nothing was handed to me. Let's not go there. I haven't slept a wink since freshman year undergrad/grad. $30-90 bucks is a toss in a bucket for someone that considers gaming a hobby.
 
But it can feed you for a week and make another loan payment. If one can afford it, they upgrade to windows 7, if they can't, they won't. Simple as that. Making responsible decisions is pride worthy, even for a hardcore gamer.
 
WinXP was fine for its time. I don't see the need outside of certain driver and program compatibility these days. That said, there are a few machines at work running win98 because the programs they need will not run on anything else.
 
i recently switched from vista to windows 7, honestly i don't really see any benefit from it. Sure its cleaned up a little bit but am i missing something? What made vista so bad? And I'm actually typing this on windows xp because well it still works, and i don't feel like buying multiple licenses for operating systems.
 
orvil01 said:
i recently switched from vista to windows 7, honestly i don't really see any benefit from it. Sure its cleaned up a little bit but am i missing something? What made vista so bad? And I'm actually typing this on windows xp because well it still works, and i don't feel like buying multiple licenses for operating systems.
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Shoddy drivers
And Microsoft and the OEMs slapping 'Vista Ready' on any hunk of junk they could push out the door. Vista was a OK OS, but a terrible user experience when paired with 512mb of RAM and an (even at Vista release) generation old integrated graphics.


By SP1 for Vista it was fine OS, but by then the damage had been done. It didn't end up being bad, but it was one of those: never get a second chance to make a first impression stories. Windows 7 is a little more refined in just about every way, but it's biggest leap over Vista was a couple years of driver development and hardware improvements.
 
Vista is not really bad now, but it was terrible when it first came out. All the horror story's getting vista to work on even basic machines caused me to lose sleep for months.

I view your operating system as a boat your sailing the internets on. XP is the old sail boat with so many patches on it's hull you are not sure how it's still floating and you know it's got to be leaking. 7 is the new cruise ship with a shiny hull.

Linux is the pirate ship!
 
KarsusTG said:
Vista is not really bad now, but it was terrible when it first came out. All the horror story's getting vista to work on even basic machines caused me to lose sleep for months.

I view your operating system as a boat your sailing the internets on. XP is the old sail boat with so many patches on it's hull you are not sure how it's still floating and you know it's got to be leaking. 7 is the new cruise ship with a shiny hull.

Linux is the pirate ship!
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And OSX, is that the fancy looking Yacht.
 
i run xp home on my file server in a vbox for torrenting. only software installed is chrome, utorrent and a vpn client. tried running ubuntu in a vbox but, it would always disconnect from the vpn, sometimes in a few minutes, sometimes in a few hours. either way, bad.
 
Zepher said:
And OSX, is that the fancy looking Yacht.
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It's a fancy looking yacht body kit glued onto a rusty old fishing boat to try and impress the ladies when it's moored at Monaco. One which you probably wouldn't want to try and sail anywhere (I have OSX on my MBA and I was impressed by how dated and clunky it is).
 
I haven't had XP on my machine since 2010, its time to let go and move on. Yes, XP was a great OS but unfortunately its showing its age and I don't see why people still use it. Unless if you have an old PC, but installing XP on a high end PC makes no sense to me.
 
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