One would think security is a serious issue in corporate environments. However, usually all it takes is one person in upper management to demand access to corporate e-mail because he bought an ipad or whats to play with one.
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Apple SUCKS At Security
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One would think security is a serious issue in corporate environments. However, usually all it takes is one person in upper management to demand access to corporate e-mail because he bought an ipad or whats to play with one.
The fact that you can fix the issue doesn't mean that it isn't an issue, especially since it appears the default setting is to have that functionality enabled.
the problem is, what idiot defaults software to the unsecure mode? the software should come disabled and if the user wants to put them selves as risk, so be it. no different than user account control windows, it ships in annoying nag mode but anyone who knows how to disable it is probably safe to do so.
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I've been able to install Network Printer drivers completely automatically since Windows Vista, what have you been doing?
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I didn't realize that dual socket Mac Pro workstations with FC storage wasn't high end.
Same goes for iMacs with high end mobile gpu's, ssd's, sandy bridge and 1440p lcds weren't high end?
Absolutely nothing Apple makes can even remotely be considered high-end. Get back to me when their laptops have mSATA bays and IPS displays like my 15" laptop does.
Oh, and their IPS are consistently THE WORST in the entire industry. They have horrible quality control, and they use CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP wLED backlighting instead of the far superior CCFL or RGBLED.
wLED is what they use for TN monitors. It's an absolute joke in an IPS of VA panel...because they suck when it comes to color reproduction. But Apple uses them to reduce cost while keeping prices the same. Good 'ole Apple. Always thinking of ways to fuck over the consumer.
I stand corrected, thanks.
Corporate use of apple products is already quite widespread. Corporations actually have a lot of control via these devices via Mobile Device Management (MDM) servers.
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Then high end doesn't mean anything if it doesn;t relate to power and is just marketing nonsense. Would you consider a ferrari high end or worth buying if it didn't go over 50mph? If not intended for overclocking, why do the x series have an unlocked multiplier?
imacs are desktops, so have to be compared to desktops. The fact they put it in weird form factor doesn't take away from the fact its a non mobile computer, they are definately not laptops. Compared to a mid range SFF they are hamstrung, yet cost considerably more.
Ive noticed this too. They might as well use TN panels with the bad color shift/repropduction which they have (in a thing supposedly built for "graphics work"
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Yeah I was gonna say, I even have a pretty old HP USB print server and with Win7 it finds and installs the drivers for the printer automatically on all 3 machines I've tried.
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crApple has such a big ego, they think that nothing bad will ever happen to their products. Their users are upstanding virtuous citizens so implementing security is just a waste of time.
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Were you using Windows 98?
Absolutely nothing from your rant could be considered a logical high end thought.
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A ferrari is going to go 180mph stock or not, adding any kind of performance mods is just gonna make it go faster (overclocked). Its the same reason a 2600 and 2600K exists.
I can't comment on the ACD's since the imac I owned went to my niece, and my mbp screen was good enough.
but we've gone way off topic, haha. gonna go play some witcher 2.
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I get the joke you're trying to make, but everything I said is 100% fact. ESPECIALLY in regards to Apple's shitty IPS displays. You'd think considering they get their displays from LG just like nearly every other company does they would be the same, but between their garbage quality control and their shit backlighting, they are consistently the worst IPS monitors in the industry.
Any graphic professional who tells you he uses Apple monitors because of their "high quality" is an uninformed dolt and you should tell them to buy a true graphic monitor like an Eizo or NEC right away.
This is a pretty bad bug, but relatively easy to fix I'd think. I verified it on my own iPad 2 and while you are limited in what you can interact with, if the email app is left open you can access any of the cached messages. That's what I consider a VERY BAD THING. Especially in a business environment.
This argument was true a few years ago, but iPads/phones are really starting to take over in the business world now days. I see presentations given off of iPads all the time now. BlackBerries are rapidly being replaced by iPhones. My company started giving everyone iPhones this year instead of BBs.
Then high end doesn't mean anything if it doesn;t relate to power and is just marketing nonsense. Would you consider a ferrari high end or worth buying if it didn't go over 50mph? If not intended for overclocking, why do the x series have an unlocked multiplier?
imacs are desktops, so have to be compared to desktops. The fact they put it in weird form factor doesn't take away from the fact its a non mobile computer, they are definately not laptops. Compared to a mid range SFF they are hamstrung, yet cost considerably more.
Ive noticed this too. They might as well use TN panels with the bad color shift/repropduction which they have (in a thing supposedly built for "graphics work"
Your paying for the nice form ffactor. U have to compare the same segments.
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Honestly I'm about as hardcore of a PC user as they come. GTX 580 sli rig, couple 30 inch monitors, watercooled 4ghz... Owned every video card worth a damn since the Rendition & voodoo1 was out...
And I'll be the first to say I think all the apple bashers haven't actually tried using apple products... Up until I got an iphone 3gs there was no way you'd convince me to use mac, I now have a iphone 4s (gave my iphone 4 to my girlfriend) and a macbook air... and they're great. Mac OSX has some amazing interface touches windows/linux just doesn't have, you really don't know what you're missing until you use a magic trackpad, I find myself doing the same work on a 13" macbook air as I would on a dual or triple monitor setup due to the trackpad. The interface is fantastic.
As for security, apple is built on unix, I wouldn't exactly say it isn't security conscious... a linux user can dive right into mac because of their similarities - can't really say I share the sentiment that others do that mac's are not secure...
I think people really need to experience things first hand before they bash them. Closed-minded thinking never really got us anywhere in life now did it? Just ask people like einstein, martin luther king etc...
And I'll be the first to say I think all the apple bashers haven't actually tried using apple products... Up until I got an iphone 3gs there was no way you'd convince me to use mac, I now have a iphone 4s (gave my iphone 4 to my girlfriend) and a macbook air... and they're great. Mac OSX has some amazing interface touches windows/linux just doesn't have, you really don't know what you're missing until you use a magic trackpad, I find myself doing the same work on a 13" macbook air as I would on a dual or triple monitor setup due to the trackpad. The interface is fantastic.
As for security, apple is built on unix, I wouldn't exactly say it isn't security conscious... a linux user can dive right into mac because of their similarities - can't really say I share the sentiment that others do that mac's are not secure...
I think people really need to experience things first hand before they bash them. Closed-minded thinking never really got us anywhere in life now did it? Just ask people like einstein, martin luther king etc...
We just replaced all the iPhones and BlackBerries with Androids. Too many problems with keeping them secure, wireless issues, and managing their data in a windows environment.
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Eh. I've played around with a lot of Apple products in the stores, from friends, etc...Nothing really special enough to get me to pay that "Apple tax" on everything. Only thing Apple I own is a 30 GB iPod Video, which has served me well and the price was right back when I got it.
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Just one more thought - in windows, each program has an individual updater. One or two programs it's no big deal, but as you start having 20 or 30 processes running, it starts to add up. In mac, software update will update ALL software on the machine... Just like RPM's or YUM in CentOS or something like that...
Another example is the 2011 macbook air, which boots from cold to up and running in like 6 seconds. I'm talking ready-to-use not waiting for 3 minutes at the desktop before it's actually useable, and this is from a powerdown cold state.
There are good traits some people here aren't really giving apple credit for.
Another example is the 2011 macbook air, which boots from cold to up and running in like 6 seconds. I'm talking ready-to-use not waiting for 3 minutes at the desktop before it's actually useable, and this is from a powerdown cold state.
There are good traits some people here aren't really giving apple credit for.
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At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, I was the same way even when I got the air. My intention was to format it and put windows 7 on it, I bought it not for mac osx but because of it's form factor and the closest competing windows equivalent was like $500 more and not as high quality (was looking at a samsung 13" ultralight).
I needed a working laptop ASAP for presentations so I never formatted it, I intended to do it in a couple days after the meetings were done. After using it for a couple days, it totally changed my mind. I've left it on and haven't even dual booted windows 7 in fact, and haven't missed a beat.
Windows 7. I'm very aware how things are SUPPOSE to work, but I also know exactly how it worked in my case. I'd install the driver, tell it network printer, and it would never find the printer, just kept insisting it wasn't there, then I'd have to manually create the printer as a local printer instead and go in and manually go to ports, add port, and specify protocol and IP address of the printer. Same thing on every computer too so it wasn't just one doing it. Meanwhile, I know on a Macbook Air I was expecting the same ordeal to set it up, but nope, it found it, it installed what it needed, and did it all by itself.
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It's called SSD's
. I had an Intel SSD in my old MBP 13" and now my Dell XPS L502x, and both would boot to a functional desktop in about ~10 seconds... I never timed either with a stopwatch. OSX will have slightly faster boot times, but we're talking a couple of seconds difference with similar hardware.I used OSX for nearly 2 years and I don't see what the big fuss is about. Although simple, I felt gimped and awkward the entire time (I've toyed with Linux quite a bit as well). The build of the laptop was nice, but really the only thing I miss is the trackpad. My Dell touchpad has a few similar gestures, but it's no where near as responsive as the trackpad. Luckily it's very minimal for my mobile needs.
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Really?
Have had to use them in a few studios where people don't have common sense. Had to use an imac 2 days ago and a mac pro a few weeks before that and one of those mac book pros last week while fixing it for someone. Ive used them, which is the reason I don't like them.The OS is ok...unless you have more than one window, then it gets annoying because of the lack of a functional taskbar and the annoying animated dock thing which takes up a huge portion of the screen, meaning on a small screen its really annoying using programs with large vertical usage, and the animated aspect makes it a moving target which is hardly practical for "serious" computer work. The keyboards have keys in stupid places, because...they do (seriously, tilde key in the \ position
why!?) makes adapting to them really easy... Then the stupid using the command key instead of ctrl for absolutely no reason, lack of full right click support to many programs etc etc. makes it a less than fun experience. blah blah blah. Multi touch trackpads are on many laptops, theres nothing special or unique about those giant "magic" ones (and you could get drivers for other OS if you really wanted).Have you used all the different linux enviroments?
Its not closed minded to dislike something based on it being, well...crap, infact quite to opposite.
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A poorly chosen default option is a security issue, as most users will leave it at default.
In red.The OS is ok...unless you have more than one window, then it gets annoying because of the lack of a functional taskbar and the annoying animated dock thing which takes up a huge portion of the screen, meaning on a small screen its really annoying using programs with large vertical usage, and the animated aspect makes it a moving target which is hardly practical for "serious" computer work.
Expose/Spaces works wonders, and if you've used the OS for more than a few hours you'd realize just how beneficial this would be in any OS when multitasking. Hit F3 and all open programs are easily arranged with live previews. I don't know how no one would not like this? and The Dock is easily customizable and yeah the default setup sucks and becomes cluttered way easy. Take 5 minutes to customize it and it can easily be corrected to your preference.
The keyboards have keys in stupid places, because...they do (seriously, tilde key in the \ position
Command/Option key gets confusing and I agree a good portion of the shortcuts aren't well thought out imo. You get used to it to a certain degree but even still I come across some that just make me think, Really???
Multi touch trackpads are on many laptops, theres nothing special or unique about those giant "magic" ones (and you could get drivers for other OS if you really wanted).
I've toyed with hacked synaptic drivers, and other multitouch trackpads but I have yet to find one as "smooth" as the macbook pro's laptop and I would dare say its maybe one of the most precise notebook trackpads i've came across.
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Problem is its extra clicks/key presses. On for example windows, you want to click to a different application, you click on it, and hover for the preview should you so wish. With the OS/X system you have to reach over to a little used area of the keyboard, press the key (the keyboards are a pet hate of mine, the fact its white and gets dirty quickly and has horrible switches doesnt help) then press a key, find what you want and click on it. Then the same again to get back. theres no alt/tab. Theres no start menu either (which is why im annoyed at the windows 8 preview
) nor a clear the desktop key, nor snap type things (which is a huge PITA to be without), program windows can only be resized by the lower right corner...yet the buttons are in the top left... which means desktop/window management is poor and things get cluttered constantly.Cant comment much on the trackpads as I haven't used one every day...but they are similar to most trackpads I've used. Still its no mouse.
Problem is its extra clicks/key presses. On for example windows, you want to click to a different application, you click on it, and hover for the preview should you so wish. With the OS/X system you have to reach over to a little used area of the keyboard, press the key (the keyboards are a pet hate of mine, the fact its white and gets dirty quickly and has horrible switches doesnt help) then press a key, find what you want and click on it. Then the same again to get back. theres no alt/tab. Theres no start menu either (which is why im annoyed at the windows 8 preview
Cant comment much on the trackpads as I haven't used one every day...but they are similar to most trackpads I've used. Still its no mouse.
alt/tab = command tab
No start menu sucks, but it looks like Windows 8 search is the same thing as os
Windows management isn't like windows and I don't like it either. Like the min/max doesn't do what I want it to do.
I use the built in search (spotlight) to launch all my programs (command+space). I think the dwm is still better in osx despite not having the snap-to feature because expose/spaces is just that much better imo.
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Yeah, Apple. Bunch of idiots having security flaws in stuff.
If only they were more like MicroSoft...
If only they were more like MicroSoft...
The keyboard is a non-issue on imacs/mac pros, use a keyboard you prefer. You're gonna end up using the one you prefer for windows, I don't see why you'd be locked down to use the default keyboard. The laptops have black keys and I don't consider the "F" keys to be a little used area of the keyboard. Command and Option take the place of the windows key and alt key.
Whoops, added in red.
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Microsoft takes security very seriously these days. No they aren't perfect but they are better at the WHOLE process than Apple, from acknowledgement to communication to classification. Apple doesn't even rate it's flaws in terms of potential impact.
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Problem is its extra clicks/key presses. On for example windows, you want to click to a different application, you click on it, and hover for the preview should you so wish. With the OS/X system you have to reach over to a little used area of the keyboard, press the key (the keyboards are a pet hate of mine, the fact its white and gets dirty quickly and has horrible switches doesnt help) then press a key, find what you want and click on it. Then the same again to get back. theres no alt/tab. Theres no start menu either (which is why im annoyed at the windows 8 preview
Cant comment much on the trackpads as I haven't used one every day...but they are similar to most trackpads I've used. Still its no mouse.
What? The OSX Dock is pretty much the same thing as the taskbar. If you want to "click to a different application", you just click on it. Same as you would on the taskbar. If you want to make multitasking even easier, add a hotcorner. Move the mouse to the lower right corner of the screen and it shows Expose. Most people have the Applications folder in the dock. You click on that and you get a menu that looks almost exactly like the classic start menu. Windows can be resized from ANY corner now.
Nothing is safe once you have physical access to a device/PC.
MS = Mark it as Critical Security, send out a bulletin
Apple = If they ask, tell them it's a feature