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another building new pc thread

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szanki

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i'm thinking about building a new pc and i need some advices
im thinking about buying the new pc either before summer or after summer
i have been looking around and thats what i found so far...

video card- EVGA GeForce 8800GTX 768MB - $649.99
mobo- EVGA LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i - $249.99
or
ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $239.99
cpu-Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz - $970.00
ram-CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) - $155.99
hdd-Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 400GB - $119.99
case- COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution - $259.99
power supply- OCZ GameXStream 700W - $139.99
or
Thermaltake 700W- $164.99

all of it adds up to about $2500, and i would like to spend about 2000-3000

i heard that after april 22nd there will be a major price cut on cpu, so im sure i will wait for that

and here are couple of questions about that setup
1. will there be any other major price cut on any of the parts that i want to buy in next 3-5 months?
2. i heard that qx6700 is not very good choice, because its not fully quad core and it doesnt use its full power, so i was thinking if intel is going to release more quad cores in next 4-5 months?
3. i've been looking at couple of geforce 8800gtx video cards and some of them have 575mhz core clock and other have 625mhz, is there really a big difference between those two?
4. do i need a water cooling system for the setup that i want to buy? or would 7 120mms fans be enough to keep it cool?
5. is 700w will be enough to run this setup? and in the future im also thinking about buying another video card and 2 more gb of ram
6. is there anything that i should change or add in my setup?

i would really apreciate if someone could help me, ebcause im really confused about what i should do :)
 
Silencer 750W

I think that if you are waiting until after the CPU price drops that will impact your decisions.
 
1) No one truly knows. Price drops occur somewhat unexpectedly IMO.
2) Dunno too much about quad core
3) A slight performance difference. Not big but there is an increase. Just pick the one thats cheapest and manually overclock it.
4) No, you won't need watercooling. Air cooling should be fine. Just make sure you layout your case nicely for the best airflow
5) yes but that Thermaltake power supply is a crap one. The Silencer 750W that PinataUT suggested might be a better choice. Check out http://www.jonnyguru.com/ for power supply reviews. You should be able to find a good quality power supply that fits your needs.
6) The RAM. That particular Corsair RAM is not good for overclocking. I recommend that you get the Buffalo Firestix 2 x 1GB kit. It's a much better overclocking RAM.
 
yah, what danny and PinataUT said.

the qx6700 isn't a good choice because of its price. the headroom is not great for OC'ing, esp since you have to get all 4 cores stable, and the chip runs rather hot (compared to c2d's) at stock. the Q6600 is supposed to be $266 sometime in the 2nd half of 2007, so I'd at least wait for that.

yorkfield is the quadcore to wait for, but you'll be waiting past Q4'07 for it, and will need a bearlake chipset (most likely). i say go with a dual core for now, and drop in a kentsfield later (Q6600).

if you can wait, then wait. if you need it, buy it.
 
i have found couple of things that may be better for my setup

Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400LLK - $204.99
or
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ - $229.99

ABIT AB9 QuadGT LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $189.99
or
ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $178.99

and for the cpu im thinkg about buying x6800 unless there will be any new quad core cpu before october

i was also thinking about buying
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - $159.99
but im not sure if i really need it, because is there really any difference between 7200rpm and 10000?

and i have one more question what kind of power protection do i need? because i have no idea about what is the best
 
Both of those new ram choices use micron ICs, which are good if you need to OC the ram. In your case, I don't think you need such overclockable ram. Go for the cheaper Corsairs or G.Skills instead.

If you can afford the raptor, go for it. Theres a slight performance boost, but not much. Its more of a luxury than a necessity.

Since you want SLI, go for the P5N32-E SLI PLUS instead.

Nobody knows when the Q6600 will be out... but I still stand behind my suggestion to go dual core for now, since prices are just ridiculous on C2Q right now. What will you be doing that requires a quad core CPU?
 
the pc will be mostly used for gaming and watching hd videos
i just wanted the quad core to be safe for little longer and not having a problem after couple months with dual core, but now i see that x6800 is a better choice than qx6700, because i just want to have a really good computer that will last for a year or two without any need of changing mobo etc. ( besides adding 2gb of ram and another video card)
and im not really into overclocking so thats why i want a really good pc that would handle any game on highest settings without need of overclocking
 
szanki said:
the pc will be mostly used for gaming and watching hd videos
i just wanted the quad core to be safe for little longer and not having a problem after couple months with dual core, but now i see that x6800 is a better choice than qx6700, because i just want to have a really good computer that will last for a year or two without any need of changing mobo etc. ( besides adding 2gb of ram and another video card)
and im not really into overclocking so thats why i want a really good pc that would handle any game on highest settings without need of overclocking
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You can save sooo much money if you consider overclocking, though. You can get an E6600 way past X6800 speeds, easily, and with minimal effort.

Another thing, those motherboards you mentioned:

szanki said:
ABIT AB9 QuadGT LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $189.99
or
ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $178.99
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...don't do SLi, you'll have to get a motherboard which uses the nForce 680i chipset.
 
Mansize_tissue said:
You can save sooo much money if you consider overclocking, though. You can get an E6600 way past X6800 speeds, easily, and with minimal effort.

Another thing, those motherboards you mentioned:



...don't do SLi, you'll have to get a motherboard which uses the nForce 680i chipset.
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how about thos one:
EVGA LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i - $249.99
i just want sli cuz i want 2 8800gtx and i want to be prepared for the future:)
 
szanki said:
besides adding 2gb of ram and another video card)
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Just so you know, only a 64bit OS can see and use 4GB of RAM. So if you're going with regular or 32bit Windows XP or Windows Vista, then the max RAM you can use is about 3GB to 3.25GB of RAM
 
Mansize_tissue said:
you'll have to get a motherboard which uses the nForce 680i chipset.
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No you don't... the 650i SLI chipset is fine. A mix between the two chipsets is even better, with the P5N32-E SLI PLUS... all the power of a 680i chipset, but without all the problems.

SLI as an upgrade path is useless unless you plan on getting a high resolution monitor (24" or larger). There will always be a better single card solution.

Also, the X6800 is a waste of money. Its main selling point is its unlocked multiplier. What good is an unlocked multiplier to someone who doesnt even plan on OC'ing? useless. BTW, you can OC these Core2Duos without sacrificing stability, and its pretty damn easy to OC now, too. Check the OC database... an E6600 could easily reach 3.6Ghz.
 
Mansize_tissue said:
Oh yeah, i should have made myself clearer. Thank you for correcting me, though.

szanki, are you willing to consider overclocking this new rig?
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well it looks like i will oc even though i wasn't thinking about doing it, because im little scared about messing smth up and destorying my pc but it looks like its not that hard to do
for the 680i sli mobo it really doesnt matter if i have to spend 50 $ more, i just want the best mobo that would be good for my setup

and for the cpu i was looking around and it looks like x6800 can be really overclocked a lot, so thats why i was thinking it would be the best choice for cpu

because the main thing i want is being able to play any game on the highest settings on my 37' lcd, without need to upgrade my pc after 5 months
 
szanki said:
well it looks like i will oc even though i wasn't thinking about doing it, because im little scared about messing smth up and destorying my pc but it looks like its not that hard to do
for the 680i sli mobo it really doesnt matter if i have to spend 50 $ more, i just want the best mobo that would be good for my setup

and for the cpu i was looking around and it looks like x6800 can be really overclocked a lot, so thats why i was thinking it would be the best choice for cpu

because the main thing i want is being able to play any game on the highest settings on my 37' lcd, without need to upgrade my pc after 5 months
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Your 37" LCD probably has a lower resolution than most 24" monitors, so there's not really any problem there.

I really would advise you to get the E6600 over the X6800. The difference in performance can easily be matched by the cheaper E6600, which should be able to reach around 3.4Ghz. After reading around here for a while overclocking almost seems second nature, and i've not even built my rig yet. I think i'm looking forward to building, overclocking and tweaking it almost as much as gaming with it. Seriously, there's very little to be afraid of with the people here to guide you in the right direction.
 
yah... what mansize said.

szanki said:
for the 680i sli mobo it really doesnt matter if i have to spend 50 $ more, i just want the best mobo that would be good for my setup
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There are alot of problems with 680i boards, thats why Asus did the hybrid chipset board... you'll get the dual 16x SLI lanes with the SLI PLUS, too.
 
Mansize_tissue said:
Your 37" LCD probably has a lower resolution than most 24" monitors, so there's not really any problem there.

I really would advise you to get the E6600 over the X6800. The difference in performance can easily be matched by the cheaper E6600, which should be able to reach around 3.4Ghz. After reading around here for a while overclocking almost seems second nature, and i've not even built my rig yet. I think i'm looking forward to building, overclocking and tweaking it almost as much as gaming with it. Seriously, there's very little to be afraid of with the people here to guide you in the right direction.
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my 37' lcd is 1080p so its 1920x1080 so its not that bad, and you say that e6600 can be overclocked to 3.6ghz, but i've also seen the x6800 oc to 5.4ghz, i know that results like this are only possible for professionals that know how to oc really good
i just want to choose whats the best things out there and something that will keep me happy and run all the games smoothly

edit: how about Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor ?
is it any good?
i found the e6600 there is a lot good reviews about it but im still worried that it is only 2.4ghz and 4mb cache and it will not last as long as qx6700 or x6800
but of course it costs $600 less than 6700 and 6800, so i could buy another 8800gtx if i would go with e6600
or maybe anoybody knows if the e6850 3.0ghz 1333mhz will come out before october?
 
szanki said:
my 37' lcd is 1080p so its 1920x1080 so its not that bad, and you say that e6600 can be overclocked to 3.6ghz, but i've also seen the x6800 oc to 5.4ghz, i know that results like this are only possible for professionals that know how to oc really good
i just want to choose whats the best things out there and something that will keep me happy and run all the games smoothly

edit: how about Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor ?
is it any good?
i found the e6600 there is a lot good reviews about it but im still worried that it is only 2.4ghz and 4mb cache and it will not last as long as qx6700 or x6800
but of course it costs $600 less than 6700 and 6800, so i could buy another 8800gtx if i would go with e6600
or maybe anoybody knows if the e6850 3.0ghz 1333mhz will come out before october?
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That 5.4Ghz OC was probably only achieved with liquid nitrogen or something for cooling. The E6600 is probably the best processor to achieve an optimum overclock with air cooling, at a very attractive price. The cashe doesn't make a whole lot of difference, but 4mb on the E6600 is still huge compared to AMD's counterparts, this is why i'm getting the E6600 over the lower models because you get double the cashe and a higher multiplier for not an awful lot more. But you have to pay a lot more if you want something which is substantially better than the E6600. Plus, like you said, you could get 2 8800GTXs if you get the E6600, which will make a lot more difference in games than a faster processor would.
 
Mansize_tissue said:
That 5.4Ghz OC was probably only achieved with liquid nitrogen or something for cooling. The E6600 is probably the best processor to achieve an optimum overclock with air cooling, at a very attractive price. The cashe doesn't make a whole lot of difference, but 4mb on the E6600 is still huge compared to AMD's counterparts, this is why i'm getting the E6600 over the lower models because you get double the cashe and a higher multiplier for not an awful lot more. But you have to pay a lot more if you want something which is substantially better than the E6600. Plus, like you said, you could get 2 8800GTXs if you get the E6600, which will make a lot more difference in games than a faster processor would.
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i know that e6600 is a lot cheaper than the other cpu like x6800 and qx6700 but my main concern is that would 6600 be able to handle all the games that are going to come out
and for the 2nd 8800, is it better to just get 2 8800 or get one and wait for r600 to come out and then get it and put those two together ( if its even possible)
i tihnk i might also wait for the 6850 because maybe it will come out before october
 
szanki said:
i know that e6600 is a lot cheaper than the other cpu like x6800 and qx6700 but my main concern is that would 6600 be able to handle all the games that are going to come out
and for the 2nd 8800, is it better to just get 2 8800 or get one and wait for r600 to come out and then get it and put those two together ( if its even possible)
i tihnk i might also wait for the 6850 because maybe it will come out before october
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If you wait until October, then you'll be hearing about Nvidia's 9 series and everything coming out later, and you'll want to wait for that, too. When it comes to computer hardware, there is no such thing as "future proofing" and if you wait for the next best thing, you will always be waiting. 2x8800GTX in SLI is nice now, but think about all of the people that bought 7900GTX SLI...the 8 series came out and suddenly a single 8800 card is faster than two 7900 series cards.

SLI is historically the worst option in terms of future-proofing because your money is best used by buying a single card now and replacing it with a faster single card later. 8800GTX SLI is absurdly expensive and requires a large power supply as well, and as I said before, there is no such thing as future proofing. And you can't use an ATI card and an Nvidia card for SLI lol.

I would go for the 6600 as well and not a quad unless you have a specific use for it.

Please don't waste your money...
 
i know that there isnt smth like future proof but i just want something that would handle the games that are going to come out, because im gonna change my pc after a year or two anyway i just want something that will at least last for that long
now im thinking if i should go with x6800 and 1x8800 and 2gb ram or e6600 and 2x8800(or i will wait to buy the 2nd video card until smth new comes out that will be better than 8800gtx) and 2gb ram(maybe 4), because i dont know what would be better for games and which one will last longer
or maybe i should get e6700 and 1x8800 and 4gb of ram?
 
szanki said:
i know that there isnt smth like future proof but i just want something that would handle the games that are going to come out, because im gonna change my pc after a year or two anyway i just want something that will at least last for that long
now im thinking if i should go with x6800 and 1x8800 and 2gb ram or e6600 and 2x8800(or i will wait to buy the 2nd video card until smth new comes out that will be better than 8800gtx) and 2gb ram(maybe 4), because i dont know what would be better for games and which one will last longer
or maybe i should get e6700 and 1x8800 and 4gb of ram?
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There really isn't any point considering the E6700 or X6800 over the E6600, because the E6600 can surpass the speeds of the 2 easily. Yes, the X6800 will overclock more than an E6600, but you won't really be able to on air. Besides, a few Mhz will have little impact on games anyway. E6600 is your best option. For now, i'd settle with 2GB of RAM and a single 8800GTX, you can always add more RAM and a second graphics card if you need to. I think, however, it'd be better to wait until ATI's R600 comes out at least. When are you planning on building this?

Another thing, there are areas of the computer which you will be able to make future proof for a pretty long time. For example: the case, get one which will last you a while, for me it's got to be the Stacker 830; the PSU, i've decided i am going to get a 1KW for my next system, even though it's overkill, because i will recycle it when i get new parts; also, the hard drives can be kept when you upgrade your system, this is why i'm getting raptors. You can afford to spend less money on the things that are going to be upgraded more often. There's little point spending loads on an X6800 now and then upgrade to a Penryn next year. The E6600 is a superd stepping stone and will, by all means, be able to handle most of the stuff your throw at before you upgrade. I understand that by getting a better processor will mean that you won't have to upgrade as soon, but do you really want to be using dated technology when 45nm processors are affordable? With the E6600 you'll have money left over to make this upgrade, and still have plenty enough processing power in the short run.
 
Like many other have said, I shall reiterate again: The E6600 is your best choice. It's more cost-effective and, once overclocked, will surpass the x6800 in speeds for a fraction of the costs. Yes, the E6600 can handle probably all of the games coming out next year. Hell, I'm willing to be that the E6300, the 2nd cheapest Core 2 Duo CPU, can handle all of the games coming out within the next year.

No game coming out in the next year or even next two years is worth splurging nearly $1000 for the CPU ALONE.
 
so it looks like im going with the e6600 unless smth else will come out before i buy my setup

so here are some updates on my setup
cpu-Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz - $313.00
power supply-

and i have few choices for gpu and mobo and memory
ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
EVGA 122-CK-NF68-T1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card with 626mhz
EVGA 768-P2-N835-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SUPERCLOCKED HDCP Video Card with 621mhz

Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400LLK
Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G5300LLK
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5K2/2G
BUFFALO Firestix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model FSX800D2C-K2G

CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-8500C5D

what would be a better choice, and should i get 2x8800 or another 2gb of ram so i would have 4gb?( if i would buy the corsair dominator i would only get 2gb because its about $350)
 
Probably the only reason they can't get an E6600 to 5.4Ghz is because no board can easily reach 600Mhz FSB. This is where the unlocked multiplier of the Xtreme edition CPUs comes into play. On air, all the Core2Duos of the same core have around the same potential for overclocking. But overclocking has many other factors... ram, motherboard, etc.;)

Danny Bui said:
No game coming out in the next year or even next two years is worth splurging nearly $1000 for the CPU ALONE.
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QFT. Think of all the people that bought a $1000 FX-62 a year ago (or even a Pent.EE 965) for gaming... look how much its worth now, brand new, after only a year... LOL. :eek:
 
I'd go with:
ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
BUFFALO Firestix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model FSX800D2C-K2G

szanki said:
what would be a better choice, and should i get 2x8800 or another 2gb of ram so i would have 4gb?( if i would buy the corsair dominator i would only get 2gb because its about $350)
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Which Operating system will you be using? Windows Vista 64bit? Windows XP Pro? I ask because 4GB of RAM would only be seen as 3.25GB to 3.5GB Ram in Windows XP Pro 32 bit or 32bit Windows Vista.

IMO, the dominator are not worth the price tag.
 
szanki said:
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I would go with the Corsair ram and eVGA 8800GTX (not superclocked, a normal one and overclock it yourself), and pick the motherboard that suits you best. The Buffalo ram is cheap right now so that's a nice option too. If you don't need SLI, then don't blow the money on it. Grab the motherboard that has the right feature set, enough fan headers, and a quiet chipset cooler and you should be good to go. Don't forget to put in a decent power supply, unless you are planning on 8800 series SLI then something around 600W should be fine. The Corsair HX520/HX620 come to mind.
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
I would go with the Corsair ram and eVGA 8800GTX (not superclocked, a normal one and overclock it yourself), and pick the motherboard that suits you best. The Buffalo ram is cheap right now so that's a nice option too. If you don't need SLI, then don't blow the money on it. Grab the motherboard that has the right feature set, enough fan headers, and a quiet chipset cooler and you should be good to go. Don't forget to put in a decent power supply, unless you are planning on 8800 series SLI then something around 600W should be fine. The Corsair HX520/HX620 come to mind.
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wouldnt bfg be better? its 626mhz against the 575mhz evga
i would like the sli because i want 2x8800 so thats why i want a good motherboard that would allow me to do that
and for the power supply i was thinking about
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad - Copper EPS12V 750W Power Supply 90 - 264 V UL, ULC, CE, CB, RoHS
since everyobdy says its so good (look 1st page )
 
szanki said:
wouldnt bfg be better? its 626mhz against the 575mhz evga
i would like the sli because i want 2x8800 so thats why i want a good motherboard that would allow me to do that
and for the power supply i was thinking about
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad - Copper EPS12V 750W Power Supply 90 - 264 V UL, ULC, CE, CB, RoHS
since everyobdy says its so good (look 1st page )
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You can overclock the cards yourself, so personally I think it's useless to buy any version of the cards but the ones with the standard clocks. It's your money, so if you want those clocks to be guaranteed then by all means buy the superclocked ones :cool:
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
You can overclock the cards yourself, so personally I think it's useless to buy any version of the cards but the ones with the standard clocks. It's your money, so if you want those clocks to be guaranteed then by all means buy the superclocked ones :cool:
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no thats what im saying that if bfg wouldnt be better than the evga that is super clocked, also bfg is cheaper than evga
 
I'm all for getting pre-overclocked stuff, if you have the money. On my build i will be getting the eVGA 8800GTX ACS3 Edition since i won't have to worry about overclocking and it's one less overclocking program i have installed on my system (i like things clean).

To be honest, as far as RAM is concerned, i would get the cheapest PC2-6400 with 4-4-4-12 timings i can find. I would get RAM which has a low voltage rating, since a lot of the 680i boards have problems with RAM which have high voltages.

That PC Power & Cooling PSU is a good choice, i see no reason for any change here.

To begin with, i'd get 2GB of RAM and a single 8800 GTX and see how that goes. Then, if you feel you need more "umph" you can get a second graphics card or ATI's counterpart, instead.

Oh, and be sure to get a descent aftermarket air-cooler for that E6600. The Tuniq Tower or Thermalright Ultra would probably be your best choices (have i already said this earlier in this thread? I must be getting tired).

What hard drives have you settled on?
 
Mansize_tissue said:
I'm all for getting pre-overclocked stuff, if you have the money. On my build i will be getting the eVGA 8800GTX ACS3 Edition since i won't have to worry about overclocking and it's one less overclocking program i have installed on my system (i like things clean).

To be honest, as far as RAM is concerned, i would get the cheapest PC2-6400 with 4-4-4-12 timings i can find. I would get RAM which has a low voltage rating, since a lot of the 680i boards have problems with RAM which have high voltages.

That PC Power & Cooling PSU is a good choice, i see no reason for any change here.

To begin with, i'd get 2GB of RAM and a single 8800 GTX and see how that goes. Then, if you feel you need more "umph" you can get a second graphics card or ATI's counterpart, instead.

Oh, and be sure to get a descent aftermarket air-cooler for that E6600. The Tuniq Tower or Thermalright Ultra would probably be your best choices (have i already said this earlier in this thread? I must be getting tired).

What hard drives have you settled on?
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for the superclocked, i can afford it but the bfg has still higher core clock than the super clocked one
does anybody know the diff between those two cards
EVGA 768-P2-N837-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO HDCP Video Card - Retail
BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
both seems to be the same but the bfg one is $50 cheaper

for the ram im still not sure what to pick, cuz i read that there are some problems with the firestix, and i think im gonna go with the 4gb, which means im gonna have to use 64bit windows( i dont know if i will use vista or xp, cuz idk what will be better for gaming)
but it looks like im gonna go with
Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400LLK- 199.99

and for the cooling im just gonna use the 9x120mm fans that im gonna put in my case, which should be enough to cool everything down right?
or do i need anything else to help cool down my setup?

and for the hard drive im not sur yet, because the prices are really going down so in october the 1tb will be the price of 500gb

does anybody know if there is a big diff between creative x-fi and a normal sound card thats on the mobo?

i also got a question about the sli mobo, because does sli only mean that i can hook up 2 video cards??
and is there a big diff in using 2x8800 instead of 1x8800??
because right now im thinking that maybe i should get the asus p5b dlx which as i read is awesome for overclocking on e6600( but it doesnt have sli) and when some new ideo cards comes out (r600) i would just buy it and change it
what do u guys think?
 
szanki said:
for the superclocked, i can afford it but the bfg has still higher core clock than the super clocked one
does anybody know the diff between those two cards
EVGA 768-P2-N837-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO HDCP Video Card - Retail
BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
both seems to be the same but the bfg one is $50 cheaper

for the ram im still not sure what to pick, cuz i read that there are some problems with the firestix, and i think im gonna go with the 4gb, which means im gonna have to use 64bit windows( i dont know if i will use vista or xp, cuz idk what will be better for gaming)
but it looks like im gonna go with
Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400LLK- 199.99

and for the cooling im just gonna use the 9x120mm fans that im gonna put in my case, which should be enough to cool everything down right?
or do i need anything else to help cool down my setup?

and for the hard drive im not sur yet, because the prices are really going down so in october the 1tb will be the price of 500gb
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You will need Vista if you want to run any games in DX10 mode. Another reason why i suggest getting 2GB first, because if you jump straight into 64-bit Vista with 4GB of RAM and find out you're missing a load of drivers and have to switch back to 32-bit, a lot of that RAM will be wasted. Whereas, if you get 2GB, you can test-drive 64-bit Vista, see if everything is okay, and then decided whether or not you will revert back to 32-bit or get another 2GB of RAM.

9 x 120mm fans? :eek:

Chances are you'll have to invest in a fan contoller to stop that thing from taking off. Why do you need so many?

That RAM you listed has a 2.2v rating which could cause problems if you get the eVGA 680i motherboard.

These OCZ sticks will run at a lower voltage and might be worth considering.

Graphics card: I would get an overclocked eVGA card because, from what i've read, their customer service is second to none and you can buy there ACS3 model.
 
for the fans i read somewhere tha cm 830 stacker can hold 9 120mm fans so that what i said that, because thats the case i would like to get( or maybe 832 im ot sure which one is better)
i would probably just end up installing 4 120mm fans on the side and thats it ( besides the ones that are already installed which is i think 2x120)
will i have a problem with that ram if i got with the p5b dlx?
so for the video card this one is the best?
EVGA 768-P2-N837-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO HDCP Video Card - Retail
what does the acs3 edition exactly mean?

i think i might just go with one of the sli mobo(looks like evga 680i is the best choice right now) and just get 2x8800 and 2gb of ram(maybe 4gb if the prices go down on any other parts that im gonna buy), cuz i just want to be prepared a bit more
and i think im not gonna wait for any other price cuts other then the cpu and im gonna get my pc in june, because then im moving to a diff country and i probably wont be able to get stuff as cheap as newegg
p.s. i've changed my previous post a little before you responded :)
 
If you have really nice speakers, get a soundcard. Chances are, if you have really nice speakers, you're probably an audiophile, lol. If you have normal 5.1s, then just stick with onboard HD Audio... its good enough for most people.

Yes, SLI means you can link two videocards to act as one. This is only NEEDED if you have a ton of pixels to push (24" or larger LCD). Otherwise, you don't really need SLI.

A P5B-E is awesome at overclocking an E6600... any board that can reach 400Mhz FSB is great at OC'ing an E6600, lol. That list includes the S3, DS3, P5B-E, P5N-E SLI, and many others. The best SLI choice right now is the P5N32-E SLI PLUS, which uses the 650i but still has dual 16x SLI, because you dont get all the problems as you would with the 680i.

If you plan on possibly replacing the mobo, you might as well get a cheaper mobo that can give you the same performance, like the GA-965P-DS3.
 
szanki said:
what does the acs3 edition exactly mean?
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Basically, the cooling is improved slightly and it has a slightly higher overclock than the superclocked card: plus there is a heatsink on the underside of the card, too. By the way, the one you mentioned above was the ACS3 one.
 
i have been thinking about my setup and maybe there is something else i should buy instead of 2nd 8800gtx?
and does anybody know if the gaming performance really improves with the 2x8800?

i was looking on some people's vista scores with the e6600 and most of them dont get 5.9 which in my opinion should be a score for a cpu like that, should i worry about that?

and do i need a cpu cooler if im gonna have all of the other fans?
 
szanki said:
i have been thinking about my setup and maybe there is something else i should buy instead of 2nd 8800gtx?
and does anybody know if the gaming performance really improves with the 2x8800?

and do i need a cpu cooler if im gonna have all of the other fans?
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It all depends on the resolution you want to play at, along with the settings. If you're gaming at less than 1920 x 1200, then no, you don't need SLI. If you're gaming at 1920 x 1200 or higher, with high settings, then yes, you'll see a big difference with SLI, imo.

Yes, case fans cool.... the case, lol. If you want to OC, you also need a good CPU HSF to cool... the CPU, duh.
 
i've just got an idea that maybe a better choice than buying a 2nd 8800 would be to buy a ps3 since its almost the same price?
because im not sure if there will be any improvements in gaming with the 2nd 8800(im gonna play at 1920x1080 res)
i also got a question i know already that there cant be a sli between a nvidia and ati but can there be a sli between say 8800 and 8600? i mean if there can be sli between a gpu from the same company just different type, because if yea than im just gonna buy a ps3 and then when some new gpu comes out i would buy it
 
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