AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Overclocking - Best Ryzen Processor?

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"Nuclear" Nathan Kirsch has a handle on what a lot of us are wondering. Is the AMD Ryzen model 1700 (No X) processor up to the chops of the 1700X and 1800X when it comes to overclocking? Does it clock as high as 4GHz or better? And if it does, how do the benchmark metrics stand up to its more expensive brothers. You can buy your own AMD Ryzen 1700 here.
 

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Exciting stuff, still trying to get used to seeing an AMD processor so high up on the benchmark charts.
 

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All in all, I think while some of the gaming people may be let down a little, this is a strong comeback for AMD. Certainly not flawless, but it gets them competitive, and also allows for a starting point where they can refine and grow from here. I just hope with Keller gone they have the chops to do it.

One thing that would be nice is to see a "refinement" period between these and the Ryzen 5's. No idea if that can even be done at this stage though.
 

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I ended up ordering a 1700x to play with and a B350 board since the X370 boards are limited stock and I couldn't find one in stock. Will post results Monday evening when I get my shit.
 

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I am not up for water cooling, I would spend far too much time stressing about the cost to replace what I have.

For an Air cooling mild over-clocker, is it worth getting the 1800x? Or does it seem to be the exact same die? Will a good quality mechanical pencil convert one to the other?

I remember doing that back in the day with a couple CPU's.

Any of the boards have Uefi settings to unlock the 1700 to an 1800?

Thank you for any information.

*EB*
 

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Beautiful review. People can complain about 1080p figures all the want (and some of these complaints are justified) but look at the advancments over thr FX numbers in that review, then compaire cost to performance for this new processor to the nearest i5/i7 intel is offering, I like where this is heading.
 

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Beautiful review. People can complain about 1080p figures all the want (and some of these complaints are justified) but look at the advancments over thr FX numbers in that review, then compaire cost to performance for this new processor to the nearest i5/i7 intel is offering, I like where this is heading.

For pure cost/performance folks the Ryzen cpu is a great buy. I can't wait to play with one.
 

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I am not up for water cooling, I would spend far too much time stressing about the cost to replace what I have.

For an Air cooling mild over-clocker, is it worth getting the 1800x? Or does it seem to be the exact same die? Will a good quality mechanical pencil convert one to the other?

I remember doing that back in the day with a couple CPU's.

Any of the boards have Uefi settings to unlock the 1700 to an 1800?

Thank you for any information.

*EB*

Hmm go AIO water then its fully sealed and "safer"

Leave custom water to those with experience.
 

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I am not up for water cooling, I would spend far too much time stressing about the cost to replace what I have.

For an Air cooling mild over-clocker, is it worth getting the 1800x? Or does it seem to be the exact same die? Will a good quality mechanical pencil convert one to the other?

I remember doing that back in the day with a couple CPU's.

Any of the boards have Uefi settings to unlock the 1700 to an 1800?

Thank you for any information.

*EB*

I did some air + R1700 measurements here https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-7-1700-b350-oc-tidbits.1926296/
I had a huge amount of trouble hitting 4GHz (not stable in SmallFFT, OK in Blend), but 3.9GHz was alright and ran pretty cool on the 7-year-old TRUE120 I was using
 

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One thing that would be nice is to see a "refinement" period between these and the Ryzen 5's. No idea if that can even be done at this stage though.
Unlikely, but the quad core ryzen 5's might be a tough sell for amd if the base clock is not past 4ghz, its multi threaded advantage will be gone compared to the 7600k, its gaming scores will be good enough but then what? Seems like the r7 1700 will be the best buy from all these chips if you can get 4ghz out of it.
 
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I will show my ignorance of water cooling!

Is that a brand or a type?

Thank You!

He's referring to an All In One cooling solution. It's a complete water cooling system that is usually low maintenance. Koolance systems and a number of Corsair water cooling systems fall into this. For the most part, the quality ones shouldn't be much of an issue. I haven't done any water cooling in a long time but I had one of the older Koolance Exos systems back in the AMD Barton days and kept using it with a Core 2 E6400, same block and everything. I just swapped back to air cooling with my Q6600s. That said, I never had any trouble with the Exos system. No leaks or anything.
 

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I am not up for water cooling, I would spend far too much time stressing about the cost to replace what I have.

For an Air cooling mild over-clocker, is it worth getting the 1800x? Or does it seem to be the exact same die? Will a good quality mechanical pencil convert one to the other?

I remember doing that back in the day with a couple CPU's.

Any of the boards have Uefi settings to unlock the 1700 to an 1800?

Thank you for any information.

*EB*

from what kyle has said from having discussions with AMD in another news post, the 1700x and 1800x are exactly the same, they didn't bin chips specifically for the 1800x. the 1800x exists for those that want a faster clocked processor but don't want to fiddle with overclocking. if you want to overclock the 1700 is the way to go.

Unlikely, but the quad core ryzen 5's might be a tough sell for amd if the base clock is not past 4ghz, its multi threaded advantage will be gone compared to the 7600k, its gaming scores will be good enough but then what? Seems like the r7 1700 will be the best buy from all these chips if you can get 4ghz out of it.

the price is what will sell it given 2600k's even 6 years later still cost 250+ dollars new in box.. i think what will be the hardest sell is the 4c/4t chips because at that point the i3's are a better buy no matter how you look at it. but i think some OEM builders will try to take advantage of the ryzen 3 chips just because of their price they'll be able to make a decent profit per unit on them through marketing.

i'm still looking at the 1500x maybe even the 1400x if losing 8mb of L3 cache doesn't end up being noticable for my next build though. being able to buy a board, ram, and cpu for under 400 bucks is pretty damn nice since i don't really do rendering/video encoding anymore these days. but at least the option will be there if i need to. i just hope losing the 4 extra cores might open up the option to overclock past 4Ghz but we'll see. other selling point is knowing AMD's sticking with am4 for at least another 3 more years. who the hell knows when intel's going to change sockets again.
 
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from what kyle has said from having discussions with AMD in another news post, the 1700x and 1800x are exactly the same, they didn't bin chips specifically for the 1800x. the 1800x exists for those that want a faster clocked processor but don't want to fiddle with overclocking. if you want to overclock the 1700x is the way to go.


Dont you think that from this article, if you want to overclock the 1700 IS the way to go?
 

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I absolutely love my 1700. Got the Asus CH6, H110i, and Corsair Vengence 16GB LEDs.

I got it stable at 4066Mhz with 1.41v & RAM at 3285Mhz.

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I will show my ignorance of water cooling!

Is that a brand or a type?

Thank You!

It's a All In One cooler. They are relatively safe for beginners. I have had this H50 on my 1100t since 2009. Still pumping right along.
corsair_h50_system.jpg
 

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the 1700 is clearly the ONLY Ryzen worth buying. I know I'm going to get called a fanboy for this but it needs to be said: The gaming performance of these CPUs is (CURRENTLY) pathetic against Intel. They can say "We will optimize" or "games will start supporting" all they want but I've been following gaming hardware my whole life. This won't happen within a year's time. So maybe if AMD can keep up this level of advancement for another gen they'll get to some kind of parity.

I will say however, that for 8 core content creation the Ryzen 1700 overclocked is a PERFECT chip. It's slaughtering all but the Intel Extreme chips at a fraction of the cost.

I'm getting the distinct impression that AMD found a sweet spot where retargeting their server CPUs to enthusiast CPUs made sense. Which is fine.

But other than content creators, why would you really want one of these over the next 12 months?
 

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the 1700 is clearly the ONLY Ryzen worth buying. I know I'm going to get called a fanboy for this but it needs to be said: The gaming performance of these CPUs is (CURRENTLY) pathetic against Intel. They can say "We will optimize" or "games will start supporting" all they want but I've been following gaming hardware my whole life. This won't happen within a year's time. So maybe if AMD can keep up this level of advancement for another gen they'll get to some kind of parity.

I will say however, that for 8 core content creation the Ryzen 1700 overclocked is a PERFECT chip. It's slaughtering all but the Intel Extreme chips at a fraction of the cost.

I'm getting the distinct impression that AMD found a sweet spot where retargeting their server CPUs to enthusiast CPUs made sense. Which is fine.

But other than content creators, why would you really want one of these over the next 12 months?

I wouldn't say gaming performance is "pathetic", just "inferior". If you primarily game you will have a more consistent experience across the board with Intel. If your favorite workloads scale to 16 threads and you want to game occasionally, Ryzen is as good as you're going to get right now; Broadwell-E is much more expensive and not that much better for games, and the higher core count Xeons still have worse low-threadcount performance, barring maybe the flagship parts with 36x turbo.
 

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All in all, I think while some of the gaming people may be let down a little, this is a strong comeback for AMD. Certainly not flawless, but it gets them competitive, and also allows for a starting point where they can refine and grow from here. I just hope with Keller gone they have the chops to do it.

One thing that would be nice is to see a "refinement" period between these and the Ryzen 5's. No idea if that can even be done at this stage though.

Without capturing the gaming market its not a come back at all. Intel will continue to soundly stomp them in sales.

The PC gaming market has exploded in the last decade and AMD is still literally nowhere to be found outside of mid range bang for buck GPUs.

This is just sad. Once Intel releases the 8xxx series ryzen will be a footnote. Or at best they will lower the price and make a solid low to mid range choice.
 

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I agree completely if your primary focus isn't gaming. But if it is I'd say that if you put the equal cost CPUs against each other (Ryzen 1700 $329 vs 7700k $339) for gaming it's pretty cut and dry.
 

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Geeezus christ already. The Ryzen is not pathetic in gaming performance.

If you want only a gaming PC, then use Intel.

If you use your PC for work, photo/video processing, and gaming. Then go with AMD.

Also hasn't AMD always been the cheaper alternative? In both processors, and video cards.
 

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I am not up for water cooling, I would spend far too much time stressing about the cost to replace what I have.

For an Air cooling mild over-clocker, is it worth getting the 1800x? Or does it seem to be the exact same die? Will a good quality mechanical pencil convert one to the other?

I remember doing that back in the day with a couple CPU's.

Any of the boards have Uefi settings to unlock the 1700 to an 1800?

Thank you for any information.

*EB*

Water cooling has a large first-time buy in cost because in addition to the waterblock(s) for the cpu/gpu/ram/mb/whatever you also have the cost of radiator(s), a pump or two, a reservoir, fans, tubing, and LOTS of over-priced fittings. However, since, with the exception of most waterblocks, nearly everything can be reused if and when you upgrade.
 

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The article from overclocker's club in the [H] roundup also shows the Ryzen 1700 was able to achieve 4.1 GHz, while the 1700X/1800X hit their limit at 4.0 GHz/4.05 GHz.
 

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the 1700 is clearly the ONLY Ryzen worth buying. I know I'm going to get called a fanboy for this but it needs to be said: The gaming performance of these CPUs is (CURRENTLY) pathetic against Intel. They can say "We will optimize" or "games will start supporting" all they want but I've been following gaming hardware my whole life. This won't happen within a year's time. So maybe if AMD can keep up this level of advancement for another gen they'll get to some kind of parity.

I will say however, that for 8 core content creation the Ryzen 1700 overclocked is a PERFECT chip. It's slaughtering all but the Intel Extreme chips at a fraction of the cost.

I'm getting the distinct impression that AMD found a sweet spot where retargeting their server CPUs to enthusiast CPUs made sense. Which is fine.

But other than content creators, why would you really want one of these over the next 12 months?

It's not pathetic. You read a review with more than 5 games. Pc gamer has one. If performs matching like 7 out of 12 games and performs bad in few and not all that bad in few. Yes it loses bad in few of those. But you can't look at a review that only tested those it did bad in and call it pathetic. That's is being little too harsh without having all info.
 

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Guys educate yourself more on this issue. Some of you are acting like you can't game on amd. Some 4K results show Ryzen being faster than all Intel cpus. It performs bad in some games at 1080p. pc gamer has a review up. On over half of the games it performs just fine. Few games it loses bad for whatever reason. Get a through look at reviews with more games.
 
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Sure, let's be realistic. Is it the Intel killer? No. Is it a competitive - or occasionally better - chip within certain parameters? Absolutely. Is it better value within those parameters? Without a doubt.

Although I am not ready to buy Ryzen, it's exciting and nothing but good news for everyone, Intel users included. I am really looking forward to the subsequent iterations of the architecture; I think the next gen will be much, much better than this.

Good news all around and hats off to AMD.
 

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Had I not bought a 6600k about a year ago I'd be way more interested mainly because it has 8 cores 16 threads.

My 6600k @ 4.5Ghz is no slouch I do see all 4 cores maxxed during BF1 and GTA5 *shrugs* still smooth as silk.

I will say my experience for 2+ years with AMD's R9 290 cards, all we ever heard was "we are working on the drivers, don't worry something awesome is coming to fix all the problems in the drivers" after listening to that for 2 years, I said fuck it and bought a 1070. Their hardware seems on point for the price, but their software is a bit of a joke.
 

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Without capturing the gaming market its not a come back at all. Intel will continue to soundly stomp them in sales.

The PC gaming market has exploded in the last decade and AMD is still literally nowhere to be found outside of mid range bang for buck GPUs.

This is just sad. Once Intel releases the 8xxx series ryzen will be a footnote. Or at best they will lower the price and make a solid low to mid range choice.

8 gen intel cpu is confirmed to be another Skylake refresh which is not so exciting. AMD still has the trump card which is Ryzen 5. It is very smart of them to release enthusiast Ryzen 7 first. Once Zen architechural problems get solved, R5 will be a bomb.
 

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Has anyone tried turning off half their Ryzen R7 cores and attempting a max overclock on 4 cores / 8 threads yet?

I'd love to know where the process wall is. I hope its not ~4.1Ghz regardless of enabled cores.
 

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SO an 'X' processor will overclock itself to and extent based on how cool it is, and a non 'X' processor will have you do the hardwork?
I think i would just for for the 'X' and call it a day
(If I ever clean out debts, which seems like a far away affair right now.
 
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I personally am very impressed with the ryzen architecture. im sure this has been mentioned by others in various threads but I think the problem that people are having is not with ryzen's architecture per say but with its manufacturing process. Im pretty sure we all expected that ryzens IPC wasnt on par with Intel's current generation of chips (considering how quiet AMD when asked about it) but i think we all thought that it was going to overclock better. From what ive seen no one can really go past 4.1 ghz and that to me screams they have tapped as much as they can out of the current global foundries 14nm.

Im too poor right now for a new build but come winter if they can release a CPU stepping and give global foundries some time to tweak 14nm i think we will all have the ryzen gaming cpu we were expecting now. New architectures are very hard and considering such AMD has done very well

I do think AMD is being competitive again and I wonder if this will put the fire under intel's butt to release a new architecture. They have been tinkering and tweaking the Core architecture for quite a long time now. Its about time for a new start
 
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