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psst. . . Mining
People that mine things that don't have asics and they can still make money on? Granted, there isn't as much to be made as there was, but some cards can still pull a small profit. Whether it's worth it or not depends on many things, but people still mine.
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It's not that insane, what are used 2080's going for? They are better for some professional work loads (especially memory hungry) and are typically within 5% of a 2080 in gaming. Of course it runs hot and loud too, but limited quantity and being really good at specific things means there is a niche of people that want to use it and are willing to pay for it @ those prices. That said I wouldn't buy a used card over MSRP unless it was completely out of stock and I had a really good reason to use that specific model/card.
.Vega Vii has way more profit over the 5700XT per day. HBM has lower latency compared to DDR6 and works great with Ethereum, a memory intensive algorithm. Still the 5700XT is second best.
I think there is not much difference between the 5700 and the 5700XT when it comes to ETH mining. So if we use a 5700, which is $350 and which can mine with almost 60mh/s, I think it is not worth getting the Radeon VII, also because the cooler on it is not as good as the 5700 board partners coolers.
Since Radeon Vii are no longer made and the resale value went way up, hard to find, yes the 5700/5700XT is the way to go now. Those with Vii's mining are making some serious mining $ for now.
I'd recommend the washer mod. The big issue with the VII is that there isn't enough pressure from the HSF onto the die. I saw double digit temp decreases and much less fan ramping from spending the hour and change to go to the hardware store and complete the mod.
Probably the smart play if you don't need a GPU now. Still hanging onto mine as it's the only GPU I have.
The Vii was getting over $5/day, short period when ETH was high but since has dropped significantly. That is like it is with mining, it may look good and then be totally pointless. If the higher prices have been maintained more and more people would get involved pushing up the mining difficulty factor to solve the mining problem for transaction verification, causing your profits to also go down. If the market has a total extended upswing, graphics cards run out -> much higher prices, no used cards or laughable prices, new cards out of stock -> hold on, you can make some serious money. That is if you cash out before the next crash.
Yep, ripped apart my old mining rig and removed the Z270 Asrock Intel motherboard with 6700K and 3200mhz ram out of a case, I am going to use that case for the 3900x system and put the Intel stuff on the mining rig case, pulled the Vega 64 LC out of the closet , , , bla bla bla, working great and now mining is almost pointless. Daisey chaining cases is fun, not. Anyways if you are in it for the money, cash out as you mine when it is high. When mining value is low but still profitable can be a good time to get more coins per hashrate since others will stop mining reducing the difficulty, transfer to like coinbase and either hold them or convert them to another coin they offer. Anyways I made a few thousands dollars doing just that when Bitcoin spike at $14,000.
Yup, Eth had a huge increase due to very high transaction fees, it has since dropped back down. Very up/down at the moment.
Very stupid design which made more air come out the bottom due to the restriction on top, heated air, which then gets sucked backed into the cooler. AMD has designed some good cooling cards, Nano, Vega 64 LC and a few others. Then they put out crap coolers, more times than not.