- Oct 9, 2008
Your Vega 56 is just fine for what you need, and it is paid for. Just wait until something better comes out for the price. Unless, of course, you want to replace the other three and then, 3 x 5600XT is good.Check my sig: I'm =desperate= for a decent card (multi 1080 screens or single 1440) with decent thermals at a decent price by a decent company with decent drivers.
Stop me from buying a 5600xt.
Yeah, Rig 1 is due. After the GPU upgrade, I may swap a Ryzen 3700x in for that i7 4790. You know, because. (And Rig 2 would get the cast offs. )Your Vega 56 is just fine for what you need, and it is paid for. Just wait until something better comes out for the price. Unless, of course, you want to replace the other three and then, 3 x 5600XT is good.
I have no place to setup a forth rig or I would build another one. I have a Vega 56, Vega 64 and RX5700 so I will be set for at least a couple more years. That said, RDNA2 cards, whenever they come out, may be significantly better but, the new XBox will be out later this year as well. Oh well, I do not need to spend money at this time and I have no reason for upgrades so, save, save, save........Yeah, Rig 1 is due. After the GPU upgrade, I may swap a Ryzen 3700x in for that i7 4790. You know, because. (And Rig 2 would get the cast offs. )
So next gen RNDA will be talked about (revealed?) March 5. It is clear that data center new GPU's in 2nd half which to me infers gaming next Gen RNDA in 1st half with a refresh for 1st Gen products sometime in 2020. Is this not about the same time as Nvidia will reveal their Ampere cards? AMD launching first I am thinking, leading maybe for the first time the next generation in a long period of time.Q: Lisa, can you give us some idea of what new GPUs you're expected to launch to the rest of 2020, for PCs and for data center?
LS: Yes. In 2019, we launched our new architecture in GPUs, it's the RDNA architecture, and that was the Navi based products. You should expect that those will be refreshed in 2020 - and we'll have a next generation RDNA architecture that will be part of our 2020 lineup. So we're pretty excited about that, and we'll talk more about that at our financial analyst day. On the data center GPU side, you should also expect that we'll have some new products in the second half of this year.
Only problem I see is that AMD current precedent with NAVI is slightly lower cost but better performance. If AMD has a 2080Ti competitive part and better performance, no current competition coming -> does not look like AMD will be selling way cheaper, more like $100 maybe. Unless they market it to compete with whatever the RTX 3080 will be presuming around 2080Ti performance at $899. Then yes that would be very cool, a great introduction into the very high end, then again AMD may have a very special higher end card like with HBM etc. to compete with the Titan Ampere and sell it over $1000 like $1399 or something. If that is the case I hope it is not another FE driver limited nightmare card but a card where you decide if you want the Pro drivers or gaming drivers and both are well supported. Hell Nvidia does such a great job on their pro drivers that they run games virtually as fast as their gaming drivers to begin with.If AMD can put out a Big Navi / RDNA2 GPU that outperforms the RTX 2080 Ti (so there should be raytracing available to match that particular feature) & manage to offer it for US$899.99 that would be great...
If it could also equal the (forthcoming) Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti GPUs but still come in at the US$899.99 price point, that would be even better...!
i HOPE not, wild ass guess . AMD pricing will be affected by how soon Ampere comes out as well as when AMD can deliver and performance of each. Well considering a 5700XT (40 CU) is not far behind a 2070 Super, a 56CU version should slaughter it and beat the 2080 super most likely. So highly opportunistic here. 64CU should be close to a 2080 Ti and then 72Cu and 80Cu should be going against Ampere high end. Then again it would be better to see how everything actually performs vice putting on a tin foil hat or two.LOL, watch these "specs" show up as verified rumors on WCCFTECH soon.
I will take one of those, configured with a hybrid cooling solution, a taller PCB to allow a larger axial fan on the card for the VRMs & a 120mm AIO for the GPU/HBM2 (HBM3?) please......then again AMD may have a very special higher end card like with HBM etc. to compete with the Titan Ampere and sell it over $1000 like $1399 or something. If that is the case I hope it is not another FE driver limited nightmare card but a card where you decide if you want the Pro drivers or gaming drivers and both are well supported. Hell Nvidia does such a great job on their pro drivers that they run games virtually as fast as their gaming drivers to begin with.
80Cu, 16gb HBM2e -> $1399???
Samsung recently announced 3rd gen HBM2e:I would be more than happy with less than 80CU, but I would like to see a LC version with HBM2e (now I gotta go look up what the 'e' signifies)...
I specify HBM2e because then we can have a LC like the Frontier Edition, where the GPU, HBM, & VRMs were all under water, no need for a fan on the shroud...
One thing I would like to see on a hypothetical LC version of an as-yet-to-be-announced GPU; two 4-pin PWM fan headers, so I can push-pull (two Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans) on the 120mm AIO...!
And I would not even mind the housing to have the same ribbed & dented look as the reference 5700 XT...!
Latest leaks / info is saying that they are including hardware DXR but only because everything is pretty much going to need it moving ahead. Unfortunately they also acknowledged that it's pretty much just a gimmick right now due to the massive performance hit for the tiny image upgade that is currently available. If that's the case there is no way this console life cycle is going to have enough hardware raytracing to deliver that wow factor people are looking for, the way ray tracing was intended to just solve every problem. We'll continue to see it a little bit in some reflections and such that don't have quite as much of a performance penalty. By the time the next Gen of consoles is ready (if we haven't figured out game streaming by then), the ps6 will hit the ground running with full scene ray tracing from hardware to software. Until then, honestly it's just a gimmick, so I wouldn't make any buying decisions based on it until it is close to or on par with current gpu performance.Way hardware DXR support ever confirmed by AMD?
Was any DXR support ever confirmed by AMD?
I'm not "AMD faithful", I'm just sick of Nvidia's bullshit. I have quite a few 10 series cards, but when I replace my 1080Ti, it will be with an AMD card.A high end AMD GPU will sell well for its intended audience, the AMD faithful. Regardless of driver issues.
It also doesn't have to beat the top Nv cards to sell within expectations. There are enough AMD focused people out there to make it worth their while.
That won't happen. More likely it will be similar performance for $50 more expensive because it's Nvidia...that's Nvidia's MO.Even if nvidia has a better performing option in the same price range?
Exactly. I would have gladly bought a 2080Ti at $800 at launch. At $1199? Get bent, Nvidia. A year and a half later you still have to spend $1199 unless you want a poorly binned, poor boosting card. $300 for a mid-range 6GB card AFTER a price drop? Ridiculous... I'm not spending $300 for a 1080p card.I'm not "AMD faithful", I'm just sick of Nvidia's bullshit. I have quite a few 10 series cards, but when I replace my 1080Ti, it will be with an AMD card.
Whining about AMD drivers unless you're using them with each regular release is getting about as old as me whining about Nvidia's pricing . I've actually had more problems with Nvidia's drivers than AMD's in the past year with crashing to the desktop and having to reinstall games and delete config folders just to get them to work with each new Nvidia driver release. I have had zero issues with the newest 20.2.2 driver.Right now if AMD can't fix their graphics card drivers, the new launch isn't going to play well regardless of the uptick in speed. I'd love a pop and play 144fps 4k card but not if it's constantly black screening/crashing on the desktop.
While I agree, I don't think we'll see this situation. Nvidia cards are going to cost more per FPS than whatever AMD brings out. You can all but guarantee it. As the market leader, Nvidia can get away with it.Only mentally deficient people would pick an AMD gpu over nVidia in the same price/performance segment.
Windows 10 is the solution to your problem.I always pick amd because nvidia's performance is _always_ garbage because their open source graphics driver is crippled and hardly functional for 3d acceleration and I refuse to be hamstringed to a specific kernel because of a proprietary driver.
At the rate they're going, intel will have a more viable option before nvidia does ...until then it's amd and only amd.
Then you made a deliberate choice to hamstring your own gaming performance, stop whining.I have a hard time apt dist-upgrading all my software from console in windows 10. Maybe one day it'll catch up. Until then I'll use linux like I have for the past 20+ years.