So this is an Intel conspiracy?Intel is pulling every dirty trick and calling in every favor. But it isn't helping. AMD is killing them in market share in Asia right now.
And this right before the new Epyc announcement?
Riiiight....
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So this is an Intel conspiracy?Intel is pulling every dirty trick and calling in every favor. But it isn't helping. AMD is killing them in market share in Asia right now.
And this right before the new Epyc announcement?
Riiiight....
IBM is a disaster, they will merge into red-hot in 10 years. That's their only viable business these days.
So this is an Intel conspiracy?
She was seen talking to IBM while at a recent Grand Prix. Then again it's probably just the industry is so close and nothing wrong with chatting it up.
just when things are looking up for AMD, disaster always follows...they can never stay on top for long
There'd be more than a few members here that would need therapy and counseling if Lisa did leave AMD.
That said, if you had asked me a few years back, this is what I would have said of AMD as well...
IBM is in a death spiral I don't think they are going to be able to get out of.
AMD's comeback has really been a quite stunning upset.
She already publicly said this rumor is BS.
AMD has been in the position to be extremely lucky. On the CPU side, Intel's 10nm fumble has created an opening that they haven't seen since Intel foolishly bet on Netburst and then IA-64. AMD saw their greatest marketshare increase right up until Intel released a reworked P6-based CPU (Core 2) to the desktop and server space, and then it was game over. AMD's K7-based lineup ran out of steam and their followon architecture was a hard miss.
IBM is rolling in Cloud, and now they control the top-tier US-based OS developer that isn't Microsoft. Being able to develop their hardware and software solution in parallel is a big thing. No idea if they'll be successful, but they do have the tools.
It wasn't just because their follow on was a dud.
Intel illegally cock-blocked them
Amazon is rolling in cloud. IBM is a distant third place also ran after Amazon and Microsoft. Their acquisition of Red Hat was a desperate attempt to rejuvenate their "Hybrid Cloud" approach, but by all indications its way too little too late.
I tend not to address this as I'm a business graduate- in terms of the business world, before we get to court opinions and emotional arguments, this reads as "AMD was less effective at cheating than Intel and spectacularly failed to capitalize on their gains when they could". In business, as in politics and in war, if you're not cheating, you're not trying. Nice guys finish last.
This.
IBM is garbage, and their cloud offerings I've used so far are garbage. Su would be insane to jump there. Intel would've been a much better landing place for her and we saw that didn't happen either.
This right here is all that is wrong with the world. It is possible to run an ethical business and be successful, but it can be challenging. Laws and regulations need to be changed to absolutely stomp out those who are not ethical. One of the biggest problems are the little "slap on the wrists" fines that are issued when businesses blatantly violate the law.
If I were king for a day, the minimum fine would equal all revenue gained from the illegal activity, times a factor of 3-10 for damages, depending on how flagrant the violation was. This would certainly change things. Government needs to not be afraid of killing large corporations with fines if they really want to drive good behaviors. It may hurt short term, but long term will result in a better more prosperous economy.
Being a sociopath is not ok just because you "are in business".
Yeah, I do not see that happening, especially with AMD being where their at right now. Looks more like an attempt to discredit AMD or do damage to their stock. Business as usual, I see?
It's a 'who watches the watchers?' question: are the regulators and the lawmakers behind them and the courts behind them ethically reliable?
Intel's fine was only US$1BN, while the case could be made that they did far more damage to AMD than that. And it was a straight money and patent licensing thing that Intel took in stride.
Government really does. Killing Intel, which what you're suggesting would more or less do, would destroy tremendous amounts of private and public American wealth, create a dearth of solutions for enterprises, and irreperably harm the US strategic-economic position.
There's a lot to consider here when we talk about 'punishing' enterprises. Where I'd start instead would be federal prison for those responsible. And I don't just mean those that actually made the decisions, wherever they are in the hierarchy, but those responsible for making sure that actually illegal market decisions don't happen. Anyone in the C-suite involved, enjoy your time and fines proportional to net worth.
Sociopathy is normal- there will always be a fraction of humanity that fall into that category. They can do good and they can do ill, and it's still their choice and their consequences to bear.
It's a 'who watches the watchers?' question: are the regulators and the lawmakers behind them and the courts behind them ethically reliable?
Intel's fine was only US$1BN, while the case could be made that they did far more damage to AMD than that. And it was a straight money and patent licensing thing that Intel took in stride.
Government really does. Killing Intel, which what you're suggesting would more or less do, would destroy tremendous amounts of private and public American wealth, create a dearth of solutions for enterprises, and irreperably harm the US strategic-economic position.
There's a lot to consider here when we talk about 'punishing' enterprises. Where I'd start instead would be federal prison for those responsible. And I don't just mean those that actually made the decisions, wherever they are in the hierarchy, but those responsible for making sure that actually illegal market decisions don't happen. Anyone in the C-suite involved, enjoy your time and fines proportional to net worth.
Sociopathy is normal- there will always be a fraction of humanity that fall into that category. They can do good and they can do ill, and it's still their choice and their consequences to bear.
The fine should have caused Intel a lot of pain, proportional too the crime committed. It did not and we saw the results, accordingly.
AMD should have been more competitive, but as usual, they chose not to be.
Amazon is rolling in cloud. IBM is a distant third place also ran after Amazon and Microsoft. Their acquisition of Red Hat was a desperate attempt to rejuvenate their "Hybrid Cloud" approach, but by all indications its way too little too late.
They come a long way from where they were prior to 2017. Not sure how much more competitive they could have been. They have improved massively.
This is true. Strongest negotiating position for her is when she's riding high, not digging her way back out of the next slump.Not speaking on the specific Lisa Su case, but where AMD is at is the perfect time to leave. Always sell high.
They come a long way from where they were prior to 2017. Not sure how much more competitive they could have been. They have improved massively.
Yeah, sounds to me like he is saying AMD deserved the crime that was committed against them for, you know, reasons........
Her tenure has also been met by fierce criticism relating to executive compensation bonuses, layoffs, outsourcing, and presiding over 24 consecutive quarters of revenue decline.
Lisa already tweeted down this horseshit.
Don’t they always?She already publicly said this rumor is BS.
CEO's are the biggest frauds in most companies.
Exactly, so the boss of the bosses needs to be 90%.every boss needs to be at least 30 percent full of shit.
IBM is primarily a (shitty) service company now... It would be a step down.
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That's the thing. CEOs get offers all the time. Her saying today there's "zero truth to the rumor" doesn't preclude her from signing with another company tomorrow, nor does it make her a "liar" after the fact, because there's no way to prove timing and what she decided to do when.All this bosses being full of shit talk makes me glad I’m in construction. I can treat my bosses however they deserve. From very poorly to great.
End result is the same, I can work in peace without them bothering me. I’ll find them if there’s a problem, not the other way around.
More on topic though, corporate can’t exactly be breaking the news of mergers and shit before it’s official. That starts getting into insider trading and shit like that. Knowing a successful CEO is jumping ship and being confirmed early would play hell with stock prices. They have a fine line to walk when addressing rumors which is why a lot of times rumors go completely ignored, or get the boilerplate “we don’t comment on rumors” statement.
Just how dense can IBM get!Thats what ibm wants people to think.
shhh
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all your base are belong to IBM. Your tech is 10 years back.
//only max throughput of 96GB/s with 460TB on a single 2u box
Lisa already tweeted down this horseshit.
Far more likely than HL3 at this point.Ryzen 4 confirmed
This is business as usual in pro sports so I really hope it doesn't bleed over to tech. I would be very upset if AMD loses her leadership when things are going well. It would make me question what is going on at AMD to have this happen."Just for the record, there is zero truth to this rumor. I love AMD and the best is yet to come!," Dr. Su wrote...
3 months later Lisa Su announces her departure...isn't this the way it usually works?...reports got leaked early but the guy who broke the news has got a good track record...