AMD Buyout

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My best friend brother, who is married, her cousion knows a girls that works at the airline, that the AMD CEO's use. She heard from the baggage claim handler who was close to the secretary who she happened to hear that "Nintendo" was buying them out. Please dont quote me.
 

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My best friend brother, who is married, her cousion knows a girls that works at the airline, that the AMD CEO's use. She heard from the baggage claim handler who was close to the secretary who she happened to hear that "Nintendo" was buying them out. Please dont quote me.

best response thus far
 

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The issue would be Intel trying to enforce that clause. Regulators wouldn't be likely to let them do it. I have no doubt Intel try it, but I don't see it holding up if AMD is bought out. Don't forget that the old agreement said that AMD would lose the license if they didn't manufacture their own chips, but nothing came of it when GlobalFoundries was spun off.

GF spinning off and AMD going Fabless was also a direct result of the settled lawsuit between the two companies.

The x86 license was not a part of that, and as far as I know it has not changed to allow the license to transfer to another company if they purchase AMD. I might be wrong or just not heard of that....
 

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MS should just buy amd, they already use ati tech for xbox. Might as well get it all.

That would be fun to watch if that were to ever happen. If the regulators were to actually let it happen, I would wonder whether Intel would crap their pants. However that is moot since it really isn't in Microsoft's interest and the regulators would never even allow for it if hypothetically MS bought AMD.
 

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The x86 issue is a moot point because AMD can always hold the x64 sword over their heads.

$6 billion seems like a bargain, especially in light of the purchase of ATI. I could see Dell ditching Intel for an AMD only lineup. But I don't see it happening because it's too big of a gamble for Dell.
 

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If Dell purchases AMD, I can see that AMD's quality will go down quickly. Dell only cares about volume and low cost. Innovation and research are not their cup of tea.
 

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The President of the United States is going to buy out AMD.
 
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People who make money from having money (investors/stockholders/shareholders) are parasitic by nature.

You dilute economic value for everyone else by creating new money from "thin air" and help increase inflation, and all because you wanna make a little money for nothing :(

Wow that was the most ignorant thing I've read here.
 

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Originally Posted by THOMO View Post
People who make money from having money (investors/stockholders/shareholders) are parasitic by nature.

You dilute economic value for everyone else by creating new money from "thin air" and help increase inflation, and all because you wanna make a little money for nothing

Wow that was the most ignorant thing I've read here.

How do you think it works then?
 

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That's actually good news. It means that someone belives Bulldozer will be profitable (and you don't spend this kind of cash only based on rumors and wishful thinking - well unless you are politician :D )
 

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all depends on what you consider behind.. for the market AMD is in they are way ahead of intel. sure intel has the better processors at the top end of the market. but with those processors you pay the price premium for them, along with that you sit there wondering if there will be a new socket in 6-8 months now. AMD owns the low end market and that is where the volume sales are which is far more important in the long term. also the fact that AMD continues to create backwards/forward compatible motherboards when they release a new socket type is a much better deal in the OEM market since that means they are having to spend less money to keep up with the changes. so in the end means less cost and more profit.

the bigger issue here is that AMD needs to severely think about their marketing. they have been sitting on the back burner for far to long while Intel spends billions marketing their brand on tv with commercials and various other things, AMD doesn't do any of this. i mean shit outside of the internet and review sites the only marketing you really see is an AMD logo on a few race cars in F1, WRC and a few other racing leagues that only get shown on the Speed channel at 3 in the morning in the US. I don't think i've ever seen AMD as a major sponsor in say Nascar. where as Intel has and thats a huge friggin market they are missing in the US. and no them being a sponsor in IRL/indycar doesn't count since you can even read the logo's on those car's for it to even matter.

AMD sponsored a NASCAR race back in 2006 at Watkins Glen... I remember b/c Harvick won. Anyway, that's the only time I've seen AMD advertised within NASCAR.

As for their advertising, I think the biggest advertising they get is within PC manufacturers. At least they sell PC's with AMD chips in them. Like so many others said, it really is to bad if this happens. AMD has a spot in the CPU market. They make good chips, just not the top of the line right now.
 

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AMD sponsored a NASCAR race back in 2006 at Watkins Glen... I remember b/c Harvick won. Anyway, that's the only time I've seen AMD advertised within NASCAR.

As for their advertising, I think the biggest advertising they get is within PC manufacturers. At least they sell PC's with AMD chips in them. Like so many others said, it really is to bad if this happens. AMD has a spot in the CPU market. They make good chips, just not the top of the line right now.


lol guess i missed that one.. but still this is 2011, not 2006. and nascar is more popular now around the world then it ever was, even in 2006.

other note i hate you now because i'm going to have to download that race just to watch it, lol :p since walkins glen happens to be my favorite track nascar runs on.
 
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How do you think it works then?

Companies need capital and instead of taking out a loan they seek capital from the public. Real revenue is generated when something for example is sold. net income goes into retained earnings and are then a part is paid out to share holders.

Stockholders and investors and investing in general is central to capitalism in at least the example provided above. Also it is a fantastic way along with other investments of various risk types to create wealth for retirement. How that somehow dilutes real monetary value sounds like you might be talking about the irrelevance of share price and therefore market value vs the actual value of a company.
 
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AMD sponsored a NASCAR race back in 2006 at Watkins Glen... I remember b/c Harvick won. Anyway, that's the only time I've seen AMD advertised within NASCAR.

As for their advertising, I think the biggest advertising they get is within PC manufacturers. At least they sell PC's with AMD chips in them. Like so many others said, it really is to bad if this happens. AMD has a spot in the CPU market. They make good chips, just not the top of the line right now.

Yeah but Kevin Harvick now drives for my company, Budweiser. That's got to be it! Budweiser is buying AMD out! :D Conspiracy theories now put to rest....
 

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AMD sponsored a NASCAR race back in 2006 at Watkins Glen... I remember b/c Harvick won. Anyway, that's the only time I've seen AMD advertised within NASCAR.

As for their advertising, I think the biggest advertising they get is within PC manufacturers. At least they sell PC's with AMD chips in them. Like so many others said, it really is to bad if this happens. AMD has a spot in the CPU market. They make good chips, just not the top of the line right now.

They also sponsored Ferrari F1, must have really been going after the auto racing fans. Although I think all they had was tiny 5x5 logo on the car or helmet.

Actually thinking back, to me it seems like both AMD and ATI promotion has gone down, since AMD bought ATI. I recall both having a heavier marketing presence before the buyout. For instance ATI also put a lot in the cross promotion with Half-Life 2, at the time the biggest I think ever with a PC game.

Since we are going with random unrealistic rumors, what if Valve bought AMD?
 

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They also sponsored Ferrari F1, must have really been going after the auto racing fans. Although I think all they had was tiny 5x5 logo on the car or helmet.

Actually thinking back, to me it seems like both AMD and ATI promotion has gone down, since AMD bought ATI. I recall both having a heavier marketing presence before the buyout. For instance ATI also put a lot in the cross promotion with Half-Life 2, at the time the biggest I think ever with a PC game.

Since we are going with random unrealistic rumors, what if Valve bought AMD?

Buy one and get 60% off of "NFS Holy Shit That's Fast!" with the purchase of a Bulldozer Processor Memorial Day Weekend! ;)
 

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Companies need capital and instead of taking out a loan they seek capital from the public. Real revenue is generated when something for example is sold. net income goes into retained earnings and are then a part is paid out to share holders.

Stockholders and investors and investing in general is central to capitalism in at least the example provided above. Also it is a fantastic way along with other investments of various risk types to create wealth for retirement. How that somehow dilutes real monetary value sounds like you might be talking about the irrelevance of share price and therefore market value vs the actual value of a company.

Even more simply, stocks are a loan in exchange for an ownership share of the company. When the company grows and profits, stocks grow in value and pay interest (dividends). Otherwise the stock's value drops.

It's a gamble unless you take time to understand what you're buying, so it's like a second part time job where you have to risk money to have a chance of getting paid. I wish I could get money for nothing... wait, no I don't, cuz then inflation up the wazzoooo..... :)
 
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while the "market" is not an exact science but the average return of the S&P 500 is about 11 percent and the historical average for inflation in the US is about 3 - 4 % leaving 7 - 8 % of growth. How is that hard to understand? I think people fear -- even hate -- what they don't understand.

granted if you have time on your side a medium risk portfolio with real estate precious metals mutual funds etc, is a good way to ensure a secure retirement, that is unless the year or two before you retire the thing just blows up...
 

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But also conversely there are stocks that don't pay dividends yet are still "valuable" to someone
So the point it - there is no one final answer, let people do what they want
For a fiat currency, it's doing one helluva job -- I can't pay for my AMD in gold bars, but newegg acceps Mastercard....
 

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If Dell purchases AMD, I can see that AMD's quality will go down quickly. Dell only cares about volume and low cost. Innovation and research are not their cup of tea.
I disagree. Dell does have quality products and has genuine care for what they release. *borderline sarcastic with some truth*
 

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Remember the hissy fit intel had over the x86 license when amd spun off its fabs to create global foundries. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR THE HUGE HOLE IN A COMPANY BUYING AMD THEORY IS IF AMD IS PURCHASED THE X86 LICENSE IS INVALIDATED. SEEING THAT IT IS NON TRANSFERABLE TO THE NEW COMPANY PERIOD END OF STORY RUMOR DEAD.
 

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I find the problem with the stock market is that the shareholders are then put first. Work at enough companies where hours and wages are cut, just to have a company announce how much more profit the company is making vs. last year. The sad part is that in theory, the stock market is a great idea.

Even more simply, stocks are a loan in exchange for an ownership share of the company. When the company grows and profits, stocks grow in value and pay interest (dividends). Otherwise the stock's value drops.

It's a gamble unless you take time to understand what you're buying, so it's like a second part time job where you have to risk money to have a chance of getting paid. I wish I could get money for nothing... wait, no I don't, cuz then inflation up the wazzoooo..... :)
 

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lol guess i missed that one.. but still this is 2011, not 2006. and nascar is more popular now around the world then it ever was, even in 2006.

other note i hate you now because i'm going to have to download that race just to watch it, lol :p since walkins glen happens to be my favorite track nascar runs on.

I agree 100%. An advertised race five years ago doesn't so any kind of justice for them now.

It was a good race. Youtube has the whole race in segments in case you're interested. I just watched it a few days ago. I love road courses as well!
 

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Yeah but Kevin Harvick now drives for my company, Budweiser. That's got to be it! Budweiser is buying AMD out! :D Conspiracy theories now put to rest....

If it were to put AMD on Harvick's car, I'd be okay with that! ;-)

That black Bud car is awesome looking out there too!
 

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I bet if AMD is bought out, there will be no Bulldozer



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I find the problem with the stock market is that the shareholders are then put first. Work at enough companies where hours and wages are cut, just to have a company announce how much more profit the company is making vs. last year. The sad part is that in theory, the stock market is a great idea.

Not all share holders are equal, and typically bond holders come first

The stock markets, as well as many other free enterprises, have propelled the Western world and USA into an economic powerhouse. I'm not sure what kind of theories you subscribe to, but if the results are not great I don't know what you are looking for.... comrade

(Even half the GDP of USA is greater than China)
 

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Wasn't there a clause in the AMD-intel x86 cross licensing agreement that said the x86 license would not be transferable if a company bought AMD?

correct. this is why via is still bottom feeding in the x86 world. intel would never allow the transfer of its license to a company that purchased amd/via
 
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I find the problem with the stock market is that the shareholders are then put first. Work at enough companies where hours and wages are cut, just to have a company announce how much more profit the company is making vs. last year. The sad part is that in theory, the stock market is a great idea.

capital is capital. People and employees are capital: and it should be known that capital can be invested or spent, people can be invested in or let go. But wise managers know that happy employees often work harder and provide more for the bottom line but if it's an diseconomies of scale issue then yes they would have to scale back the size of the operation to keep earnings up.

I am not saying that the stock market is perfect but that it works and it works well to provide the funding necessary for publicly traded companies the world over (in their various markets).
 

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Remember the hissy fit intel had over the x86 license when amd spun off its fabs to create global foundries. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR THE HUGE HOLE IN A COMPANY BUYING AMD THEORY IS IF AMD IS PURCHASED THE X86 LICENSE IS INVALIDATED. SEEING THAT IT IS NON TRANSFERABLE TO THE NEW COMPANY PERIOD END OF STORY RUMOR DEAD.

The all caps just makes that hard to read. The only thing we can be sure of with the x86 cross license agreement is that it is very, very complicated and nobody knows what would happen if there were a buyout.
 

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The all caps just makes that hard to read. The only thing we can be sure of with the x86 cross license agreement is that it is very, very complicated and nobody knows what would happen if there were a buyout.

the license would be yanked there are no questions about that
 

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the license would be yanked there are no questions about that

I doubt it...I bet the government would step in in their anti-monopoly parenting way. I have a feeling Intel isn't going to push too hard on it because ARM is the future and everyone knows it (even Microsoft which is saying something). They want as many people hooked on x86 for as long as possible.
 
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