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With the latest statements from AMD's CEO im not too happy. They need to keep contending with Intel.
Over the last two decades they've only been really competitive with Intel for about 5 years out of that time. It's a losing proposition for them and it's rarely made them a profitable company. I can see them wanting to back out of that fight. How long can anyone go without success before they've lost the will to fight?
I think AMD should develop a game console.
basically this entire paragraph is false.With Xbox and Playstation pretty much phasing out computer gaming, the gaming crowd on the PC is shrinking. Pc gaming has lost its touch with great unique titles which made Pc gaming what it is, that and games developed for the PC were better graphically and interface vs consoles. Consoles bridged the gap in graphics with the release of the xbox 360, and the playstation 3, and made it affordable to have a gaming class system in your home for 300$. (try building a gaming pc for that price)
I think AMD should develop a game console.
With Xbox and Playstation pretty much phasing out computer gaming, the gaming crowd on the PC is shrinking. Pc gaming has lost its touch with great unique titles which made Pc gaming what it is, that and games developed for the PC were better graphically and interface vs consoles. Consoles bridged the gap in graphics with the release of the xbox 360, and the playstation 3, and made it affordable to have a gaming class system in your home for 300$. (try building a gaming pc for that price)
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but fighting against Intel for cpu dominance with Amd's resources doesn't make sense.
If they do win its only because they were able to pull a rabbit out of a top hat, at least in overall computing. (the fx processors do well in some benchmarks, just intel beats them in like the other 98%)
Amd is just trying to use their resources to develop products which will be profitable for them. Honestly they need to take more of a APPLE approach. Which is make stuff for the masses.
Its a good thing that you have purchased an AMD processor.
Cause it might be their last ones in high end cpus.
Maybe in 2013 they won't be doing high end cpus.
You hope, but I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.
Edit: wow looked at your posting history and looks like you're another one of those who spends your whole life hating AMD and posting it on message boards...incredible. From what I could see every post of yours was bashing AMD.
I think AMD should develop a game console.
but fighting against Intel for cpu dominance with Amd's resources doesn't make sense.
If they do win its only because they were able to pull a rabbit out of a top hat, at least in overall computing. (the fx processors do well in some benchmarks, just intel beats them in like the other 98%)
Amd is just trying to use their resources to develop products which will be profitable for them. Honestly they need to take more of a APPLE approach. Which is make stuff for the masses.
With Xbox and Playstation pretty much phasing out computer gaming, the gaming crowd on the PC is shrinking. Pc gaming has lost its touch with great unique titles which made Pc gaming what it is, that and games developed for the PC were better graphically and interface vs consoles. Consoles bridged the gap in graphics with the release of the xbox 360, and the playstation 3, and made it affordable to have a gaming class system in your home for 300$. (try building a gaming pc for that price)
Anyway Amd will still make improvements to their Cpus, but unless they find other means of bringing in profit they will bite the dust a few years down the road. There graphics card division is doing ok, but Nividia has strong competition there as well. I don't blame them for trying to change directions.
I built a Sempron 145 pc last year for someone who ran a Celeron "Willamette-128" 1.5. To them the Sempron was a hugely fast powerhouse of a processor, they could actually watch streaming video properly and get things done quickly.
AMD do deserve criticism for delays, and spin/pr hype etc with FX. And for high launch prices. The reality is when people stop talking about AMD is when it's time to get really worried. What happens on these forums is far removed from the reality if most users needs.
I'll roll over and die before I give my money to a company like Intel. Whilst I think criticism is justified in this case, it's getting a bit old and tired of late. With falling prices and we hope a new PD batch due in a few months things might actually look up a bit.
This isn't an utter disaster, unless you geek yourself into benchmarks or must have the best there is. With cashbacks and price cuts FX is starting to look quite good actually becase what really matters to most AMD fans is the "bang per buck"
hese chips are awesome. They may not beat the i7 stock for stock or even the i5-2500 in some cases but they do what AMD intended. Overclock for overclock, these chips destroy the i5-2500 and beat the i7-2600k in many cases.
do we really need to link to every review showing that "overclock for overclock" that it is the 2500k that beats Bulldozer not the other way around like you claim?hese chips are awesome. They may not beat the i7 stock for stock or even the i5-2500 in some cases but they do what AMD intended. Overclock for overclock, these chips destroy the i5-2500 and beat the i7-2600k in many cases.
hese chips are awesome. They may not beat the i7 stock for stock or even the i5-2500 in some cases but they do what AMD intended. Overclock for overclock, these chips destroy the i5-2500 and beat the i7-2600k in many cases.
These chips overclocked, wont even beat the old 1366 socket Intel I7's. Let alone Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge.
Clock for Clock they are slower then a phenom II.
this chips beat up the old i7's....... esp when overclocked.
this chips beat up the old i7's....... esp when overclocked.
watching three posters getting trolled hard by a 1 day poster with 1 post ... who even used post #666 ... evil genius for sure![]()
Only benchmarks a Fx competes with Sandy bridge of ivy bridge chip, is something that uses all cores, and encryption, file transfers, video encoding, very few select things.
Another advantage is cheap support or immou, IE Virtual machines. Only advantage my FX has over my buddies 2500k, is in this areas. However i did notice that i can video encode and run games smoothly while he cannot. He is rather jealous i can set core affinity and encode and play battlefield 3 with acceptable frame rates. Something he cannot do, very well.
enjoy arguing
oh my gosh you fail at reading.
This has always been AMD's strong point,
still a stupid choice because Bulldozer and an aftermarket cooler will cost hardly any cheaper and give you a slower cpu that uses more power. oc that Bulldozer to catch i5/i7 and the money you saved is wiped out by the extra power usage within a small amount of time.i5 2500k - $219
FX 8120 - $159
i7 2600k - $289
FX 8150 - $199
Scenario....you have only $200 to spend on a CPU.
$200 gets you a 8120 and aftermarket heatsink, or a 8150.
Another scenario..... you have $300 to spend on a CPU.
Buy a FX 8150 and a NH-D14.
In other words, if you have a tight budget, AMD is the better choice. This has always been AMD's strong point, all the way back to K6 days. Loved my K6II 400.![]()
still a stupid choice because Bulldozer and an aftermarket cooler will cost hardly any cheaper and give you a slower cpu that uses more power. oc that Bulldozer to catch i5/i7 and the money you saved is wiped out by the extra power usage within a small amount of time.