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Well, then you just haven't played with the timings enough. I'm sure you can reach close to 300MHz with that setup you got there.
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that is not true,, i dont know of one person cranking 300mhz out of this OCZ rev 2 stuff.
and TONS having issues past 250 but many hitting 275.
there are some out there that have done it, or claim to have done it,, but not me.
and i almost bet they arent running 1:1 when they do it. running a ratio isnt running 300, its more or less running less than 250.
overclocking tccd is no different that any other ram you have to loosen it so much its just a big performance loss, sure cpu freq can go up,, but look at the loss in memory performance. 300 on a ratio with insanely loose timings is about the same performance wise as 250mhz 1:1 with tighter timings,, so which would you do ?
tccd wasnt designed for overclocking , it was designed for tighter low freq. 200-220mhz.

300mhz at what? 3-4-4-10 ? ouch !!
 
I think calling the OCZ EL Platinum Rev2 PC3200 "crap" is a bit silly. The stuff is rated for DDR400, not DDR600. If you want RAM guaranteed to hit X speed, buy RAM rated for it...
 
I hate to sound like a broken record, but does my OC sound low considering I set my ram to PC 2700 and only hit 2.29 ghz? I was definitely expecting 2.4 ghz considering my ram is rated for 400 mhz...

I tried upping the vcore too 1.65 cause my mobo undervolts horribly, so I am only effectively hitting 1.60 at 1.65, at 1.60, I managed to get to XP login, then freeze. So I put my ram voltage at 2.7, I managed to get into windows, then bam freezes. I figured it can't be heat, cause I am watercooled. Should I go to 1.70(1.65 vcore) or should I loosen my timings, and if so, what should I set them too.

I have no experience with timings. Would I be benefitting more from 2.29 ghz oc with ram at 190mhz with timings of 2-2-2-5 or loosening timings and attempting to go too 2.4 ghz, or would I be more beneficial putting my ram back too 200 mhz and just leaving my AMD 64 3000+ at 2.0 ghz?
 
Cyberlunacy said:
that is not true,, i dont know of one person cranking 300mhz out of this OCZ rev 2 stuff.
and TONS having issues past 250 but many hitting 275.
there are some out there that have done it, or claim to have done it,, but not me.
and i almost bet they arent running 1:1 when they do it. running a ratio isnt running 300, its more or less running less than 250.
overclocking tccd is no different that any other ram you have to loosen it so much its just a big performance loss, sure cpu freq can go up,, but look at the loss in memory performance. 300 on a ratio with insanely loose timings is about the same performance wise as 250mhz 1:1 with tighter timings,, so which would you do ?
tccd wasnt designed for overclocking , it was designed for tighter low freq. 200-220mhz.

300mhz at what? 3-4-4-10 ? ouch !!
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Read my words; I said "close to 300MHz". And don't even ask me what I would do, you won't like the answer.
 
Cyberlunacy said:
that is not true,, i dont know of one person cranking 300mhz out of this OCZ rev 2 stuff.
and TONS having issues past 250 but many hitting 275.
there are some out there that have done it, or claim to have done it,, but not me.
and i almost bet they arent running 1:1 when they do it. running a ratio isnt running 300, its more or less running less than 250.
overclocking tccd is no different that any other ram you have to loosen it so much its just a big performance loss, sure cpu freq can go up,, but look at the loss in memory performance. 300 on a ratio with insanely loose timings is about the same performance wise as 250mhz 1:1 with tighter timings,, so which would you do ?
tccd wasnt designed for overclocking , it was designed for tighter low freq. 200-220mhz.

300mhz at what? 3-4-4-10 ? ouch !!
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I can run tccd440 @DDR480 at 2-2-2-5 and DDR676 at 2.5-4-3-6 same memory 1:1-1T and 3.1V. Imo most mem. makers speed binned their products and rated it accordingly. Its all depend on mobo and cpus mem. controller..at least for amd64.
 
centvalny said:
I can run tccd440 @DDR480 at 2-2-2-5 and DDR676 at 2.5-4-3-6 same memory 1:1-1T and 3.1V. Imo most mem. makers speed binned their products and rated it accordingly. Its all depend on mobo and cpus mem. controller..at least for amd64.
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Bingo. I'd tell him to kill his chip with static, and RMA it.
 
well ...

i just bought:

gig 6600gt
64 3000+
neo4 sli plat
mushkin blue 3200


i get the FSB to 224 ... any past that and boom. :mad:


suggestions?
 
oh, you have the sli.. the bios that fixes the problem isn't out yet. sit tight for a while, msi should fix the problem soon. if you have any newcastles or an older winchester sitting around, try it.

also, try clockgen, the issue is that you can't boot over a certain htt, but once in windows, the speed can be increased like normal.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
oh, you have the sli.. the bios that fixes the problem isn't out yet. sit tight for a while, msi should fix the problem soon. if you have any newcastles or an older winchester sitting around, try it.

also, try clockgen, the issue is that you can't boot over a certain htt, but once in windows, the speed can be increased like normal.
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thanks alot ... i read about this bug


was hoping that the 3.10 bios would have the fix already
 
Hi all,

New to OC, I'd like to know if my components are suitable for OCing. I hope so, because I spent quite a bit of euros to get this thing running. As you can see on my signature, the mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI, and I guess these are not the best for this task. Memory is not very good too (in fact, don't know specs right now, I will use CPU-Z to discover them), so if this is very important I would consider changing for better sticks. Anyone over here has these components? How much gain could I expect, and which are "safe" multiplier/memory/FSB values to start OCing?

Thx!

Making noise: Athlon 64 3200+, Gigabyte K8NXP-SLI, 1 Gbyte Generic RAM (Elixir) DDR400, 2xHD 200 Gbytes SATA Seagate Barracuda, Philips DVDR1640K Dual layer, NVIDIA 6600GT PCIe.
Making silence: CoolerMaster Stacker PC Case (black), Thermalright XP-120, Papst 120 x120 4412FGL fan, Tagan TG480 power supply.
 
Excuse me... Didn't follow the first rule: read the FAQ. I'll follow it, and see what happens. I'll ya informed!

Don't bother reading the previous message :-D
 
amd 3200+ 939..msi neo somethin..10x240 Ht=1000mhz ram=200mhz because theres i cant figure the divider out on this crappy board. 1.48V on the vcore..2.7v on the ram
 
3500+ winnie @ 2.75GHz (275FSB x 10.0) @ 1.723V

mobo: DFi LanParty nF4 Ultra-D 310 bios
mem: 1GB OCZ PC3200 VX @ 550MHz @ 2-2-2-5 with 3.4VDIMM
PSU: Antec NeoPower 480
HDD: Seagate 120GB SATA (x2) raid 0 + 64k striping
HDD: Western Digital 250GB SATA Backup
SC: Audigy 2 ZS
VD: ATi X850XT @ 570/590
DVD: NEC ND-3520A (x2)
 
tylerhskate said:
amd 3200+ 939..msi neo somethin..10x240 Ht=1000mhz ram=200mhz because theres i cant figure the divider out on this crappy board. 1.48V on the vcore..2.7v on the ram
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Got the same chip AMD 3200+ Winchester, MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, Bios 1.4, OCZ EL Platinum Rev 2 DDR400. Runs 250x10 at 1.55v vcore and 2.8v on the RAM 2.5,3,3,6 1T 1:1
I stopped there because my temps were getting high and didn't want to nuke the chip on a higher vcore but runs 100% stable at 2.5GHz
 
I am not sure about other peoples setups but my setup works really well with ocz el rev2.

Specs:
Model: 3000+
Core: 0.09
Date: 04/49
Stepping: CBBHD
Code: MPM
Mhz: 2.6553 Ghz
Gain: 855.3 Mhz
Vcore: 1.55v
FSBxMulti: 295 x 9 :eek:
Divider: 1:1
Cooling: Air – XP-90 alu cheapy fan.
Stable: Yes, PRIME95 07:32:00, 3d01/03/05 Super PI 1mb 00:00:32
CPU-Z

DFI NF4 UltraD A02 Bios: 3/10p
OCZ PC3200 Rev2 Plat (2x512)
OCZ Powerstream 520w
74Gb Raptor
ATI Built x800xl (425.25/533.25)

Off to play some more CSS. :D
 
Cant seem to get to the rated speed of my memory at 275htt. Just random reboots, but i can run memtest all day at 290htt with no errors. I think its the stability of the board though, think its time for DFI.


Asus A8N SLi Deluxe bios 1006-001 v.1.02
AMD64 3200 winchester@2520 x9.5 1.5v 265fsb ht 4x
Thermalright XP-90 with 92mm zalman
1024mb Corsair XMS PC4400@2.9v 265fsb 1:1
2.5-4-4-7
2xMaxtor sata 80gb Raid0 Game Drive Only
1x Maxtor 80gb General Drive
2x Leadtek 6800GT SLi PCi Express @ 350 - 1000
Enermax Noisemaker 2 600watt 11.9, 4.999, 3.248
Sound Blaster Audigy 2
Creative Inspire 6.1 6700 Speakers
Akasa Eclipse 62 Case
 
Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester CBBID core, 250x10 for 2500 MHz 3-3-7 CAS 2.5, 2.8 Vdimm, 1.4 Vcore, 1.7 V Chipset, 1.6 V AGP
Epox EP9NDA3+ motherboard
2x 512 MB Corsair TwinX PC 4000 Pro ram modules
 
My bros board(the specs i posted are above) has no HT multiplier...so its running some weird divider :/
 
Hi guys, I am buying the setup below tonight for $145 shipped new. :) I have never used an A64 and know nothing about overclocking it. How well will it perform stock and what will it overclock to. How do I overclock it too. I have 2x256 pc3200 2.5x3x3x6. Anyway, here it is:

ECS 755-A2 Socket 754 AthlonTM 64 DDR MB With Athlon64 2800+ CPU & Fan
 
it'll be nice.. until you try to overclock it. the ecs aren't really know for their oc'ing abilities.
 
that chaintec board will overclock really well, cause the nforce 3 chipsets are known as good overclockers. time to post some oc results!
 
The chip maxes out at 2.2. This is at 1.55 volts and very stable. It won't go any higher no matter what you do though. Is this good. It is clawhammer that was made in february. It has 512 cache and a 9x multiplier.
 
Blinkme323 said:
The chip maxes out at 2.2. This is at 1.55 volts and very stable. It won't go any higher no matter what you do though. Is this good. It is clawhammer that was made in february. It has 512 cache and a 9x multiplier.
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If its only got 512k cache, then its not a ClawHammer. I read a few posts down, you have a 2800+ yes? If so, that is a newcastle. And, 2.2 is terrable. Thats the highest I could get on my 2800+. Some people have gotten to 2.4, but your really close to the chips limit, I would just be happy with what you got.
 
well, if your stuck at 2.2ghz, then id look into a KV8-Pro. like i have, cause with them, they overclock like hell, and the pci/agp lock get flaky around htts of more then 270ish, well past the 245 htt youll be hitting. they are solid boards and perform really well
 
i got mine to 2.45 (272*9) with 1.65v's. today im gonna try to get it to that full 2.5ghz(278*9) those 2800+'s are overclocking really well. how much did you get that 2800+ for anyway blinkme
 
$70 shipped with heatsink. The chip is what is holding me back. The seller made it clear that it only hit 2.2 and that is why it is so cheap.
 
70 is a good deal for an A64 2800+, even if it only hits 2.2ghz. who did you buy it from and do you know what board he used it on?? either way going with 754 is the way to go, cause soon, were gonna get all the new mobile chips that will do huge thing, or so i hope.
 
turion probably won't work with most desktop 754's.. and if they do, the reason the power output is so low is because amd replaced a bunch of hot and fast transistors for slower ones that put out much less heat.

i'm waiting for newark. ;)
 
The seller used it on a DFI nforce3, so it is definately not the motherboard. I am able to get an A64 3000 from some guy for ~$100 shipped. I am not too sure of the details on it, but I know it comes with a cheap aftermarker cooler. I don't know what he can overclock it to. I got the Chaintec motherboard for $50 and am looking for a cheap processor arond $100 or less. I was originally thinking Sempron 2600, then the A64 2800, and now the A64 3000. Do you think I should go for the 3000.
 
well, blinkme, whats your max budget. if its around 175, check out tiger directs mobo and cpu deal, i think they have a 3000+ and a chaintech mobo for 175. they have the same deal but with the kv8-pro for the same price.
 
I am looking to spend $150 which leaves about $100 for a cpu. I can get a 3000 for $100 or a 2800 for $70.
 
go for the 3000+, that 10x multi will serve you well. if i had a choice to do it again, id get the 3000+, for the 10x multi alone
 
Ok, I got him down to $90 shipped, but he doesn't have a fan. What fan should I buy. No more than $15. I hear the stock ones are good and cheap even. Also, what is the life expentancy of the chip when overclocked.
 
with good cooling, a chip will last a long time. i had a p2 that ran passively cooled for a year, and had no hiccups, after running 5 years actively cooled. overclocking with good temps will keep your processor alive a long time. if you dont get good cooling. you might run into issues.
 
The guy with the 3000 said he never pushed it passed 2.2ghz. I don't know how much higher it can go for sure. What fan would be good for $15. I might just get the 2800 and save the money Will I notice a big difference. The 3000 is a newcastle btw.
 
id say go for the 3000+. as far as 15 dollar cooling goes. i dont know about that. i think only arctic cooling makes coolers in that range. you could probably pick up a cheap cooler from someone here at [H]ard forums
 
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