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One thing I didn't realize about the viewing angle issue until I bought a 22" TN... the vertical viewing angle is affected by even a few inches of head movement. like, say you slouch in your chair for a second, you will notice the contrast at the top of the screen change. alot of TN panel...

Yeah, I switched away from a TN panel to the S-IPS Dell. I calibrate with a colorimeter, so my perception of color is not based on the factory settings... and I can say that the S-IPS is definitely more pleasing. I had them both set up on my desk before I took the 22" TN back to costco, and I...

20" monitors have basically the smallest dot pitch you can get. 22" on the other hand have a fairly large dot pitch. that is one thing to keep in mind. in this respect, "bigger" is not necessarily better. for the record, the whole flicker thing with the 2007 seems blown out of proportion. i...

I haven't heard of anyone getting PVA in the last few weeks from the 2007wfp lottery. My office ordered two over the last month or so and both were S-IPS.

As you will see on this large Behardware monitor review for 20" panels, the Dell S-IPS 2007wfp is better than the TN panels that are quoted at even 4ms and 5ms. The specification for response is not the whole story. Response time varies across the color spectrum, GtG or ISO alone does not give...

Do we know if this flickering ever appears in regular use? Or only on a test screen? Because I have never seen it on my workstation. In my case, at least, the flicker issue seems moot.

Well, we got the other one in. This one came from the Nevada warehouse, RT803 S-IPS panel. Seems like everyone is winning nowadays. :) Edit: Forgot to mention, no noticeable problems like banding or dead pixels on arrival. Looks really good!

Dunno, but like I said earlier we are getting one in the office here from the Nevada warehouse tomorrow, so I'll let you know if the S-IPS trend continues of not.

Sounds like you're expecting a console game to look as good or better than a computer game. That just ain't going to happen. That is why a top-of-line computer costs 2g's, versus 250 for a Wii : / Only computers have true hi-definition gaming in my book. Let the flames begin... :p

This is off-topic, but I had to say something. It is funny you should mention that, because it is EXACTLY what corsair does. For example, their PC2-6400C4 ram started out as Micron D9 ICs until all the reviews were out, at which point they switched to stuff that was far worse of an...

I would classify what dell does as misleading, but from their point of view it is acceptable. Almost every company does the same type of thing, although sometimes it is more noticeable than others. A good example are RAM companies. The whole "switcharoo" tactic is just a good marketing...

But I would argue that you are missing the main point of S-IPS vs. S-PVA. The loss of detail in dark color tones when viewing the panel perpendicular to the screen can be extremely aggravating for some people. Maybe you are one that doesn't care, but you have to respect the fact that others...

2007wfp (S-IPS version) has better quality, and an overall more pleasing image with good viewing angles. The TN has a "okay" picture, with unsatisfactory viewing angles, especially vertically. A few inches of head movement will alter contrast on the screen. So basically your question is this...

"B) A lag of this value cannot be noticed at ordinary work or in movies. It may make a difference in games for well-trained gamers, but wouldn’t matter for most other people even in games." Notice the "well-trained" statement he uses. That basically translates to "skilled" gamers in my...

It is on sale now, although not by a huge amount. Assuming you end up with a S-IPS panel with no issues, that is actually a good deal imo. NEC and Apple charge an arm and a leg for theirs. I hear HP might have one too. LG.Phillips definitely does, but they only sell them in Europe.

That is very strange. I will point you towards this, an independent test of the two monitors on Face a Face (a french site). Go to the bottom menu and go down to Angles de Vision. That is what you should be seeing... That is basically what my Chi Mei TN does. Top angles look okay, bottom...

Maybe you should think about trying the 2007wfp lottery. Apparently most people have been "winning" lately. Or if you like glossy screens you could go with the NEC 20.1" that uses S-IPS with dynamic contrast. It is really nice, but also really expensive.

Yeah, the 160°/160° viewing angle spec gives it away as a TN. If it were P-MVA, they would spec 176°/176° I think. Widescreengaming is wrong here. Oh yeah. I just wanted to say that I also own an x22wg-gamer, and lately the vertical viewing angle issue has been driving me...

Are you sure you weren't looking at the VX2035WM? This one uses a TN panel, and I could see it being the same or inferior to the Acer (which also uses a TN panel). If it really was the VX2025WM, then what you are describing makes no sense to me. A P-MVA panel would have better angles than a...

That one is another TN. You will be unsatisfied. The VX2025WM is the one with P-MVA. This should enlighten you as to the pros and cons of each panel. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies.htm

Ah, I found the revision. It is actually an A02. I wonder how we ended up with an A02, given the fact that this was ordered less then 2 months or so ago.

My office is ordering another one. Should be in by the end of the week. I'll let you guys know how it turns out. What's weird is, the panel type on the first one I use at my workstation wasn't obscurred. Does that imply we somehow got a non-A03 version, or are they actually getting their...

I have read this thread until my eyes bleed, and all the info on P-MVA panels and S-PVA panels I could find, but I still can't answer this... I have seen the difference between a Dell 2007wfp with S-IPS and S-PVA, and I cannot stand the PVA because of the viewing angle issues. You have to...

For the Dell, nothing could be easier to check. Put up an all black screen, turn it to the side. Does it look slightly purple? Then it's an LG Phillips S-IPS. If not, S-PVA. Simple.

The monitor's specifications list 160°H/160°V viewing angle. If it were S-PVA it would be 178°H/178°V as far as I know. Has to be a TN with the new Digital Fine Contrast (DFC) I would think...

I'm sorry, but twinkling is the result of "overdrive" and other similar technologies used to increase pixel response times and also of frame rate control to increase color depth. Read these articles and you will see. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/features.htm...

I think you are misunderstanding me. The colorimeter is not software, it is a hardware device you mount on the screen to calibrate the colors, which communicates to a calibration software suite via USB. Using my settings won't help you at all unless you also have the device. Proper...

You need to read this. All will become clear. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies.htm Your LCD is a TN panel, which has poor vertical viewing angle. It is simply the nature of the beast, so to speak.

I'm curious how it turns out. I already own a 5ms 22" TN panel, mostly because I never am anything but perpendicular to the screen and I own a colorimeter for calibration. But, mine doesn't have DFC. Since I am still within my costco return policy period, I would take this one back and get...

In stock? Where? All 22" panels are TN.

My settings are just the factory defaults you get by going through the OSD and setting "Recall". I also set the lamp to "1", but that is a personal preference thing. This website here reviews the various hardware colorimeter/calibration software suites...

Interesting. Let us know when they are actually at the store. I notice bestbuy.com does not list them yet. Did they happen to mention a price?

If it is green, then it is a stuck pixel, not a dead one. Try running this little applet. It shifts all pixels in the window through the three colors very quickly. I had a pixel that got stuck during my first week and this fixed it in 20 minutes. No guarantees though...

I recommend this one instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824112176 The one you list is a TN panel, and while I have a CMO 22" TN panel myself and have no problem with it, I wouldn't recommend it for that kind of usage. The one I recommend is the "Naga III" version...

If you already have a 19", stay and go to 24" later. Unless your refund was ~750$, then get the BenQ FP241W :) . I upgraded from a 17" NEC Multisync I had for about 5 years now to a 22" because of limited funds and the fact that vertical view angles is not an issue for me. If I already had...

Yeah, banding on this monitor is minimal. The new 6-bit TN panels do a very good job.

The same as every other TN. Not bad side to side imo, but poor vertically. As for you guys discussing color settings, I did my best to get things right by eye until I could get ahold of my friend's Spyder2... and wow, what a difference actual calibration makes on this thing. Sceptre's...

The human eye is a very bad calibration instrument. Buy one of these and never look back. You are going to be looking at your screen for years, so 70$ is more than worth it IMO...

Just as some background info, I own a Sceptre x22wg-Gamer that I bought from costco and is still returnable. I needed something in the 300-400$ price range and thought 22" was the way to go, even though it is CMO TN. My boss just ordered me a new monitor, a Dell 2007wfp... and wouldn't you...