until verified it's not affected.
Uh... no it can still be affected without being verified. What the fuck kind of faulty logic is this?
It CAN be affected.
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until verified it's not affected.
what they don't know anyone with an amd system to test so they assume it is vulnerable too?
until verified it's not affected.
Did you not read the OP where it said that the AMD CPUs are likely affected by this also?
Has it been verified? And is it affected?Likely is not 100% until it is tested.
Wait, Intel said this, right? Perhaps I am being a little dickish, but that comment from them feels a bit dickish itself, almost like they are pointing a finger at AMD and trying to push some of the heat onto them, a "it's them too and not just us!" sort of thing. Trying to throw AMD under the bus without throwing AMD under the bus. Not sure if I am making any sense LOL.We expect that it is not unique to Intel platforms.
Wait, Intel said this, right? Perhaps I am being a little dickish, but that comment from them feels a bit dickish itself, almost like they are pointing a finger at AMD and trying to push some of the heat onto them, a "it's them too and not just us!" sort of thing. Trying to throw AMD under the bus without throwing AMD under the bus. Not sure if I am making any sense LOL.
Perhaps I am way overthinking what they said. Just felt like Intel was trying to throw the other CPU makers under the bus, since they [Intel] got so much crap [and continues to] over all the current issues.The researchers also said it. Don't know the technical details, but the attack is based on having a process run on a logical core, examining how it is being affected by a process on the other logical core on the same physical core, and then extrapolating data from that. Seems to me that such an attack can be used on any SMT-enabled processor, including ARM.
I can't imagine disabling SMT really makes much of a difference in recent processors... regardless... shintel, lol.
The researchers also said it. Don't know the technical details, but the attack is based on having a process run on a logical core, examining how it is being affected by a process on the other logical core on the same physical core, and then extrapolating data from that. Seems to me that such an attack can be used on any SMT-enabled processor, including ARM.
If you read the article, it's an attack based on forcing a process to run on the different logical core of the same physical core.
Wait, Intel said this, right? Perhaps I am being a little dickish, but that comment from them feels a bit dickish itself, almost like they are pointing a finger at AMD and trying to push some of the heat onto them, a "it's them too and not just us!" sort of thing. Trying to throw AMD under the bus without throwing AMD under the bus. Not sure if I am making any sense LOL.
They probably just read the title.
I've been saying it work for years now. Security is inversely perportional to performance and usability. Security is why we can't have nice things.
as much as i enjoy watching intel get shit on for security flaws i feel this should of been tested on AMD processors as well before releasing this information..
what they don't know anyone with an amd system to test so they assume it is vulnerable too?
until verified it's not affected.
From the guys that discovered this vulnerability: "A CPU featuring SMT (e.g. Hyper-Threading) is the only requirement".
So in principle any CPU with SMT is affected: Intel, IBM, ARM, SPARC, MIPS, AMD,...
They only tested two CPUs, but they are saying that all Intel CPUs are affected. It would be a bad security practice to assume that something isn't affected until proven the contrary. It is better to be safe and assume that something is affected until proven the contrary. If AMD CPUs are invulnerable, then AMD will make soon an official statement.
Well ARM doesn't use SMT... so they are not effected.
MIPS and IBM Power could well be effected as both have SMT implementations. However I would bet good money neither is vulnerable, they have very different cache designs.
He must have been an intel fan boy then, obviously.
Then they shouldn't speculate before testing. The fact they have done this makes me feel it's more likely AMD aren't affected.It says that AMD CPUs probably have the same problem, but they haven't tested it yet.
Either they tested it or they did not, either it is proven or it is not. These are computers, not personal feelings.
01 Oct 2018: Notified Intel Security
26 Oct 2018: Notified openssl-security
26 Oct 2018: Notified CERT-FI
26 Oct 2018: Notified oss-security distros list
01 Nov 2018: Embargo expired
the joke died after the first time.. repeating it didn't make it funnier.. but if your intent was to be an even worse version of Juan you're succeeded in joining him..Yeah, but people are interpreting someone’s opinion that AMD maybe affected.
Like I said already, AMD is NOT affected because I own a 2700x.
Trololol
Another security flaw in Intel chips that AMD doesn't likely have? Guess it's time for another t-shirt.
Oh good, me just having the 1700 will protect my intels from these easy attacks.Yeah, but people are interpreting someone’s opinion that AMD maybe affected.
Like I said already, AMD is NOT affected because I own a 2700x.
Trololol
Someone being one of the researchers who discovered the vuln.Yeah, but people are interpreting someone’s opinion that AMD maybe affected.
Like I said already, AMD is NOT affected because I own a 2700x.
Trololol
Then they shouldn't speculate before testing. The fact they have done this makes me feel it's more likely AMD aren't affected.
the joke died after the first time.. repeating it didn't make it funnier.. but if your intent was to be an even worse version of Juan you're succeeded in joining him..
AMD probably has the issue too. It says in the article AMD hasn't been tested yet.
Nope, sounds like the article writer or researchers are just doing Intel damage control. Either AMD is affected or they are not, they cannot simply say they "may" be when they have done absolutely no testing that we are aware of. If they have done the testing, why have they not released the results?