PNY Lets the RTX 2080 TI Cat Out of the Bag

Zarathustra[H] said:
There is more to GPU performance than just core count and bandwidth. It's a completely new arch. It is possible it could deliver much increased performance per clock/core.
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Correct, and that is why I used the Titan V (Volta) as comparison.

GoldenTiger said:
This. It's like some here have never seen a gpu launch before...
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To our favorite forum cheerleader - see above.
 
I'll just be glad when there's real sightings in the wild and reviews. Regardless, it 'seems' that the x80TI's will be out sooner that later. Makes me wonder how many variations NV has up their sleeves for these next gens this time.
 
Ironically enough, as next gen may finally get to a 4k/60fps or more performance level, the ports(DP/HDMI) could become a limiting factor. Recently read one of those 4k/100hz(or something similar)/HDR monitor reviews and it mentioned how the port was reaching a max point. They weren't too worried since nothing presently can truly drive it. Wasn't really an issue until HDR and higher frames were added to the mix. Display bandwidth always looks impressive on paper but once you throw all the bells and whistles at it, it can have some surprisingly real limits.
 
Just give me a 1080Ti for $400 and im set. Don't wanna deal with the pricing when these hit stores.
 
I can believe the $999 debut gouging price...it's the usual early-adopter tax.

When more Turing models emerge and AMD releases their next-gen, then the typical price point reformatting will take place.
 
GoldenTiger said:
Doubtful. There are new architectural additions in these cards. I'd be surprised if it only matches a 1080ti.
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While the 1080ti may be just as fast as the 2080, once a game comes out with RayTracing it won’t even be close at that point. Gaming wise RT could be a free addition much like texture filtering became over a decade ago.
 
Trimlock said:
While the 1080ti may be just as fast as the 2080, once a game comes out with RayTracing it won’t even be close at that point. Gaming wise RT could be a free addition much like texture filtering became over a decade ago.
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While I'm sure we will see Nvidia push ray tracing in some GameWorks titles, due to how they seem to be splitting their product stack I wouldn't count on mass adoption of RT for a long time.
 
GoldenTiger said:
This. It's like some here have never seen a gpu launch before...
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Well.. yes, hopefully both cards will be great... But 2 things are worrisome 2080 pricing rumors, and the need to jack up cuda cores in 2080ti... The release is starting to feel like a brute force upgrade, and not an efficiency upgrade. .. That said, pricing for most cards is out of whack to me, so 8 wouldn't touch either anyway.
 
Derangel said:
While I'm sure we will see Nvidia push ray tracing in some GameWorks titles, due to how they seem to be splitting their product stack I wouldn't count on mass adoption of RT for a long time.
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"Long time" in this industry is what, 6-8 months? :)

Don't disagree though... I think the biggest adoption roadblock is that at higher resolutions, RT may only be viable in the very top tier offering of this gen of cards, and that will probably only amount to 1% of the gaming market.

If Nvidia really wants to make it take off, 1) Their RT tech really needs to perform well (at all resolutions), 2) They'll need to fund and assist gaming houses on how to use it, and 3) they'll need to push the tech down across all of their product lines. That will definitely take some time.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
"Long time" in this industry is what, 6-8 months? :)

Don't disagree though... I think the biggest adoption roadblock is that at higher resolutions, RT may only be viable in the very top tier offering of this gen of cards, and that will probably only amount to 1% of the gaming market.

If Nvidia really wants to make it take off, 1) Their RT tech really needs to perform well (at all resolutions), 2) They'll need to fund and assist gaming houses on how to use it, and 3) they'll need to push the tech down across all of their product lines. That will definitely take some time.
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I'd estimate 3-4 years, unless AMD integrates ray tracing into whatever they're going to sell to Sony and MS for their next consoles. If the PS5 and Xbox Whatever utilize real time ray tracing, even at the most minimal of levels, it will become a thing much faster but I highly doubt it. I think splitting the product stack is okay for this generation, ray tracing stuff probably costs them more to integrate and they really can't jump up the low end and mid-range prices too horribly. However, for the next generation that will have to go away if they hope for it to really take off in gaming.
 
I think we will see substantial adoption in augmented reality software within the next 12 months. Render complexity and resolution are manageable in an AR space, and the benefits will be much more obvious.
 
Derangel said:
While I'm sure we will see Nvidia push ray tracing in some GameWorks titles, due to how they seem to be splitting their product stack I wouldn't count on mass adoption of RT for a long time.
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Developers are close already with God Rays, I expect we will see a few titles next year have it and then a majority of the AAA titles the year after. We also may not get it on low to mid tier stuff this release but next release I don’t see why not. Nvidia could also refresh their low to mid stack with the RT cores later on.

That’s IF they decide to not release them with it now.

Again, all speculation.
 
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Bend over and take a deeeeeeeeep breath.
 
STEvil said:
Biggest issue im running into with them is getting them to hold a decent clock speed since wattman crashes so much..
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I too have had similar issues on a few games with some of the earlier drivers. I just try not to overclock the cards at all. I really don't even overclock my system that much anymore either. Better to leave well enough alone since I enjoy stability.
 
DejaWiz said:
I can believe the $999 debut gouging price...it's the usual early-adopter tax.
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HAs less to do with being an early adopter, and more to do with that they have no competition and the top end right now, so they can charge whatever they feel like charging.
 
DejaWiz said:
I can believe the $999 debut gouging price...it's the usual early-adopter tax.

When more Turing models emerge and AMD releases their next-gen, then the typical price point reformatting will take place.
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I sincerely doubt it will launch at anything above $799, and I expect $699. We'll know in about 15 hours I suppose. They may not have any real AMD competition, but they need to compete against their old cards still.
 
I know everyone wants to talk about the price tag, but holy crap, 12.36" long...

GPUs are getting longer again...
 
MrDeaf said:
I know everyone wants to talk about the price tag, but holy crap, 12.36" long...

GPUs are getting longer again...
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Yeah, it wouldn't even fit in my Fractal Design Define R3 :(… I can take a card up to 11" if I recall, so I'm a bit worried at how long all of these cards are...
 
Innovation drives sells, brings excitement and gives reasons for folks to upgrade. NVLink on the gaming cards has definitely spark my interest - plus Nvidia rarely brings features without software support and developer support (something AMD lacked in the past severely). My guess is Shadow of the Tomb Raider will have ray tracing. Previous game already supports DX12 and Multi-GPU which for AMD works great. The lighting seems to be beyond current games - is this using Ray Tracing? Looks awesomely good!

 
MrDeaf said:
I know everyone wants to talk about the price tag, but holy crap, 12.36" long...

GPUs are getting longer again...
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GoldenTiger said:
Yeah, it wouldn't even fit in my Fractal Design Define R3 :(… I can take a card up to 11" if I recall, so I'm a bit worried at how long all of these cards are...
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It's an overclocked card with oversized cooler. We have had these for the current and previous generations.
I'm pretty sure there will be reference cards and smaller variants, just as usual.
 
@everyone "Oh this card will be just faster than 1080ti or maybe slower or maybe I don't fucking know.."

I don't think we will know anything for sure until [H] gets their hands on these.

2080Ti 4352 cuda cores @1545 Mhz boost clock
2080 was ~2400 cuda cores @ ~1710 Mhz boost clock (can't remember these exact numbers, the videocardz site with all those details is down, or not reachable from my work)

More cores but slower, meh..

Isn't the release date today? Or at least the information embargo ends? EDIT: guess we will know more in about 2.5 hours :) See if all those leaks were real or not...
 
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