Best Reviewed A-MVA Monitor Thread: Read the 1st Post

I also still have my xb2783, its a decent screen, but after some more hours of playing I noticed black smear in many fps games, especially newer ones with more detailed graphic. The only way to reduce it is changing gamma. But at least I can play in a dark room without shitty ips glow.

Samsung will bring quite a bunch of interesting VA panels this year, 1440p, QD, HDR, 144Hz etc, but I guess they all will be super expensive while performing mediocre.

And yeah OLED monitors are still not in sight, they really need to hurry tf up.
 
Immolation1991 said:
Samsung will bring quite a bunch of interesting VA panels this year, 1440p, QD, HDR, 144Hz etc, but I guess they all will be super expensive while performing mediocre.
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You could not be more wrong. the FG70s are the best gaming monitors ever build using a TFT tech:
125% RGB gamut thanks to quantum dots,
perfect sRGB mode,
144Hz refresh rate,
ULMB using a scanning full array local dimming :p
and Freesync.
Samsung nailed it .
And they will milk gamers launching 1440p (CH711) and 4k (UH750) displays with the same feature set over the next months. :mad:
 
Immolation1991 said:
The 24" shows ugly artefacts in some color transitions and the 27" additionally has clouding issues.
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Source? the videos i saw at 100-120Hz did not have those said artifacts. And even then, i still back my claim:

- best color gamut of any gaming monitor
- best motion blur control
-state of art contrast
-best brightness with LMB on of all gaming monitors

I would pick them over any other monitor in this thread for pro gaming.
 
Yeah indeed, there are issues with overdrive artifacs but people often forget all the other areas the display is a clear upgrade compared to all the TN alternatives.
Isn't the CFG70 edge-lit and backlight scanning goes across 4 zones? I think it's a bit of a stretch to call that a FALD system.
I just hope the 2017 Samsung monitor update will come closer to their TVs - especially the static contrast needs to catch up already.
There is still no detailed info about the HDR capabilities, probably won't be close to full HDR support though. Mainly curious about peak brightness and panel bitdepth (upcoming 144Hz LSM315DP01 panel is only 8bit for example, not good enough)
 
igluk said:
Isn't the CFG70 edge-lit and backlight scanning goes across 4 zones? I think it's a bit of a stretch to call that a FALD system
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Samsung call it advanced low motion blur, and uses pictures to explain it that resemble a FALD. let us call it edge-lit zone dimming? ELZD? Edit: edge lit menas there is a mirror surface behinf the lights, which would scatter the light in your idea of a scanning edge-lit. weird.

Gaming-Monitor-CFG70-Interview_Main_2.jpg
 
igluk said:
Yeah indeed, there are issues with overdrive artifacs but people often forget all the other areas the display is a clear upgrade compared to all the TN alternatives.
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I lost some time on youtube watching morons showing ghosting and artifacts on the FG70 at the wrong settings:
videos with freesync on,
videos with LMB off,
even videos where the GPU refresh rate did not matched the panel refresh rate ( and a comment which explained how to CRU to fix the issue was downvoted!)

It is not rocket science to discover how to best use a LMB VA monitor: just find the refresh rate and LMB setting with optimal blur:

At 120Hz and fastest response time it beats handdly the DEll S2716DG, a 2016 TN with LMB:

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VA Monitor Reviews

March 2017

AOC AG352QCX
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/moniteur-ecran-lcd/aoc-agon-ag352qcx-p36593/test.html

AOC AG352UCG
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc_agon_ag352ucg.htm

AOC Q3279VWF8
http://playwares.com/dpreview/53168127

AOC U3277PWQU
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/72...-328p6vjeb-review-voordelig-groot-formaat-uhd
https://uk.hardware.info/product/363884/aoc-u3277pwqu/testresults

ASUS MX34VQ
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...-designer-display-mit-toller-ausstattung.html
http://www.pc1999.com/thread-41339-1-1.html

Lenovo Y27G
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/moniteur-ecran-lcd/lenovo-y27g-p31375/test.html

Philips 328P6VJEB
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2017/test-philips-328p6vjeb.html
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/72...-328p6vjeb-review-voordelig-groot-formaat-uhd

Philips BDM3270QP2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/philips-bdm3270-32-inch-va-monitor,4938.html

Philips BDM4037UW
https://4k-monitor.ru/reviews/obzor_philips_bdm4037uw/

Samsung C24FG70
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2017/test-samsung-c24fg70fqu.html
https://3dnews.ru/948211
http://pclab.pl/art73434.html

Samsung C34F791
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-c34f791/
https://3dnews.ru/948024


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Please tell if I missed a test. I'll add any review as long as it contains objective measurements with some device.
 
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I am mightily impressed by that FG70, if 1440p and 4k ones are anywhere near as good, I just might consider switching to AMD next round of update, though it'd still depend on their GPU perf.
 
The AOC Q3279VWF8 is a strange beast. It appears to be only available in Australia and Asia for now?
I can't make sense of the panel, it is 31.5'', 1440p and 10bit and I have no idea who is the manufacturer. It does not seem to be using one of the AUO or Samsung panels, at least none that any other monitor uses.
It has 75Hz FreeSync like the Omen32. It is glossy (also confirmed in playwares review), very interesting. It also has a wider gamut, about the same as the quantum dot monitors.
Contrast also higher than spec measured at 5200:1. There seems to be noticeable inverse ghosting on all but the lowest overdrive setting though.
 
VA Monitor Reviews

April 2017

AOC AG352QCX
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...ag352-qcx-im-test-xxl-display-mit-200-hz.html
http://playwares.com/dpreview/53493780

AOC AG352UCG
http://www.sweclockers.com/test/236...bred-spelskarm-med-100-hz-va-panel-och-g-sync
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2017/test-aoc-ag352ucg.html

ASUS MX34VQ
https://3dnews.ru/949832
http://playwares.com/dpreview/53440618
https://uk.hardware.info/product/381781/asus-mx34vq/testresults
https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzj...q_zakrzywiony_wielki_i_funkcjonalny-2631.html
http://uk.pcmag.com/monitor-reviews...agcom/89567/review/asus-designo-curved-mx34vq

HP Omen 32
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2017/test-hp-omen-32.html

HP Omen X35
https://www.limscave.de/artikel?id=HTUdUftd

Philips 349X7FJEW
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/monitors/104377-philips-brilliance-349x7fjew/

Philips BDM4037UW
https://uk.hardware.info/product/376768/philips-bdm4037uw/testresults

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hi...did anyone find a proper review of the Benq BL2700HT? It was expected to be better then the older (good) models and as good as the iiyama XB2783HSU
I am just about to buy a 27" VA monitor
 
Don't believe the BL2700HT has ever been reviewed, you'd have to go in blind :ninja:
Seems most newer 27'' 1080p VA are based on curved Samsung panels, they're slightly more expensive. The AUO ones haven't been updated for a while now.
 
I see...thx igluk

I am absolutely torn between the Asus VN279QLB, iiyama XB2783HSU-B1 and one of the Benqs.
 
CHF711 is supposed to have FreeSync, does that mean it will have 75hz?

It is not out yet but there are already some primitive reviews on youtube.
 
gizmo11x said:
I see...thx igluk

I am absolutely torn between the Asus VN279QLB, iiyama XB2783HSU-B1 and one of the Benqs.
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Don't really know what to recommend there. iiyama has solid overdrive, but contrast doesn't surpass the 3000:1 mark. BenQ EW has been reviewed by PCM and users here said it has better color/contrast than iiyama but worse overdrive. BL2700HT = unknown territory.
The Asus was always well-reviewed but it was reported to have coil whine and frequent QC issues, also slightly more expensive. It looks like they re-released it again (it got re-listed on skinflint this year), maybe a new revision with issues fixed, not sure.

Immolation1991 said:
CHF711 is supposed to have FreeSync, does that mean it will have 75hz?

It is not out yet but there are already some primitive reviews on youtube.
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Maybe ask one of the youtubers? It's not listed on AMD page yet, so no idea about the range, and if it does 75Hz would be good to know whether it's supported on Nvidia GPU as well.
You could also wait for the CHG70/CHG75 with 144Hz and HDR support. (up to 600nits?) CHG75 is supposed to have G-Sync as well.
 
I've sent an email to Benq asking them to confirm what the panel model is on the BL2700HT...let's see if their customer service is any good :)

the thing that bothers me with the iiyama is that according to the russian reviewer (=DEAD=) the effective contrast ratio you get after proper calibration is 1000:1...that is down to IPS levels (all other drawbacks not taken into account)...if it weren't for that I would probably go for it.

and yeah...the Asus was reported in many places of having coil whine...I cannot express in words how much I hate coil whine. But if what you are saying is correct and it is indeed a re-release I might just take a chance on it.
 
geok1ng said:
You could not be more wrong. the FG70s are the best gaming monitors ever build using a TFT tech:
125% RGB gamut thanks to quantum dots,
perfect sRGB mode,
144Hz refresh rate,
ULMB using a scanning full array local dimming :p
and Freesync.
Samsung nailed it .
And they will milk gamers launching 1440p (CH711) and 4k (UH750) displays with the same feature set over the next months. :mad:
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Looks like UH750 will be a TN http://displaysolutions.samsung.com/fileDownload/44538?dir=business-monitor&file=Leaflet
 
I ordered the iiyama in the end...gonna set it up and test it during the weekend
if folks who have the monitor could post their calibration settings I would appreciate it...thx
 
so got the iiyama setup and it has what looks like a screen defect: a white spot, a few pixels wide, on the left. it's really visible on a white backround and less on darker ones. I can post a pic when I get home today.
I will return it but I have a few impressions/questions:
- I am coming from an old Samsung TN and the first thing that shocked me was how bright the whites are...even after taking the brightness down to 50% if I am looking at a mostly white screen it is almost uncomfortable...is there anyway to tune this?
- washed out grey areas are a thing (someone mentioned it earlier)...if I am sitting close to the monitor, dead center (my normal position) looking at this forum page for example I can see the left and right sides areas washed out. If I move back about 1m more it's fine
- tested a few movies I had (1080p) and a few grey/less saturated scenes were a grainy/spotty mess....gonna put the 2 monitors side by side for a clear comparison
- colors seem a bit dull?...not sure...maybe they are just more natural and I was used to my old crappy TN...setting suggestions are welcome
- still need to test games for response time / ghosting

still deciding if I should return it for a same model one or just give up on VA and go for IPS

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the pics of the flaw:
http://imgur.com/a/RPXxA
http://imgur.com/a/VVJFj
 
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I'm getting Phillips BDM3270QP2 for everyday use.
I was looking for Dell 2715H but found the price was't down much in 2 years.
Then checked Benq and HP 27 and 32 models but decided with this one.
Main attraction was the price.lol
It seems the quality is pretty much same cross all models I've looked into and I won't notice any difference anyway.
 
I just got the Samsung FG70, not really super impressed with it to be honest. It looks like my nearly 10 year old Asus 120hz monitor with a curve, colors are massively overdriven to the point where its almost painful to look at. I've fiddled with the settings some but overall it definitely doesn't seem to be worth $300.
 
Hey guys, alternatives to the Samsung FG70 models? Looking for high-HZ, VA, 1080p or 1440p monitors, that is.
 
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The Aoc geok1ng suggested may be a contender, pending reviews or the fg70 replacement the hg70.
I can only seem to find the 32' hg70 in Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LC...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B071Z46XQT

Actually, I'm interested in both monitors, but I'm really wary of the aforementioned VA problems. I used to play games on my IPS Panasonic casually, but after rainbow six siege I decided I needed 144hz 32'. Any opinions about these two monitors?

Sorry for my English, not my native language
 
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Are these a-mva still the only semi-glossy option nowadays?

I'm searching for a 4k 24" monitor but all ips and pls have hard-coatings according to prad.
 
Are any of these glossy or anti-reflective (rather than anti-glare) and 1440 or higher?
 
Well I think I'm sending my CFG70 back. It gets really weird artifacts, tried both HDMI and DP with a GTX 1050ti and RX570, does the same thing on all of them. This happens in games too especially by the edges of the screen. Played with the overdrive and stuff for weeks with no improvement, its funny that the easiest way to see it is typing on [H].

 
LigTasm said:
Well I think I'm sending my CFG70 back. It gets really weird artifacts, tried both HDMI and DP with a GTX 1050ti and RX570, does the same thing on all of them. This happens in games too especially by the edges of the screen. Played with the overdrive and stuff for weeks with no improvement, its funny that the easiest way to see it is typing on [H].

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- turn OFF freesync in both monitor and control panel. THIS IS REQUIRED TO MAKE LMB AVAILABLE. be double sure to have freesync off by restarting both PC and monitor.
-select 120hz and fastest response time.
- if the above does not improve it, try 120Hz and fast response time.
 
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