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i worry about it getting ripped off,
or even chargebacks etc etc. seems very risky to even successfully sell it
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GPU prices — is the worst behind us ?
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or even chargebacks etc etc. seems very risky to even successfully sell it
That is a good point. I would only meet in person with police present and deal in cash!
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I was messing with ya. I meant I have minimal bills so keeping my 5090.
Or just slap a wp2 on it and know you have a problem before it becomes a shit my card dunbruned up. First thing I did when I saw 5090s become un available is slap one in it and it instantly found I had a bad cable. With pin4 pulling 9-10 amps while other was 4-5
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If you're worried, a wire view pro 2 is cheap insurance. Also, not all of us are in debt with no rainy day fund.
Yep definitely get a wp2 saved me a bad cable on day one. Also I don't really understand how people get In trouble with CCs I put it on a 0% interest card and collected 5% cash back on it. No reason not to let a bank finance it for 11 months and pay you to do it.
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Why complicate things? Just pay it off in full when your next statement comes in. You don't need to wait 11 months for cash back to go through.
Because if you can get 0% interest specials it really makes no sense not to let the bank float it for a year. Thats $3k+ I can add to to investments/savings and make money off during that year.....If you know the system you are working inside debt can actually be your friend. If you get good rates it makes no sense not to take a debt if you have a healthy balance sheet
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I don't see how it matters if you pay at the end of the year vs right away. You still have to pay it all back regardless. Having transactions pile on can also make it more confusing to keep track of all purchases.
I have 2 5090 and i don't have a problem and i have had them for some time. So no I am not selling them. Even if i did have a problem shit can be repaired and it would still be worth it at these prices. Go be poor some were else this is the wrong place. lol.
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"NVIDIA RTX PRO 5500 Listing Spotted at $17,999, More Than the Flagship RTX PRO 6000
by DrUsmanSaleem Today, 19:03 Discuss (0 Comments)The NVIDIA RTX PRO 5500 "Blackwell" workstation card has shown up at a US retailer, and it surprisingly costs more than the flagship RTX PRO 6000. As spotted by Alex Ziskind on X and corroborated by Videocardz, SHI Government Solutions listed the PNY-built model (VCNRTXPRO5500B-PB) with an MSRP of $17,999 and a discounted price of $17,408.63. NVIDIA's own US marketplace, on the other hand, lists the RTX PRO 6000 for $16,000, even though that card has more CUDA cores (24,064 vs. 21,760) and more memory (96 GB vs. 84 GB). So even at SHI's discounted price, the cut-down card costs around $1,400 more. NVIDIA hasn't announced official pricing since it quietly added the RTX PRO 5500 to its lineup in September, so it isn't clear whether the $17,999 figure comes from NVIDIA or PNY.
Videocardz points out that Chinese demand is probably a big factor behind the RTX PRO 5500's price. According to Reuters, ByteDance, Alibaba, and Tencent have ordered over 3 million RTX PRO 5500 cards at roughly $11,400 each, with total orders from China reportedly topping 6 million. One source said NVIDIA can make no more than 3 million of them in 2027. With the B300 barred from China and the H200 reviewed case by case, the RTX PRO 5500 is one of the strongest NVIDIA GPUs Chinese firms can still buy. The card also packs 28 GDDR7 modules at a time, even as memory prices keep climbing. With orders far ahead of supply, it's reasonable to expect RTX PRO 5500 pricing to stay high for a while."
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I'm glad someone else sees the truth. PCs prohibitively expensive. Local models left in the dust. Frontier models controlling media and public perception. Flock cameras. Surveillance and lack of privacy.
Cornering the market on PC parts is just phase 1. They would rather stockpile parts unused than allow people to build competent PCs that can run frontier models.
As a thought experiement, imagine if PC prices never come down, but instead increase steadily. What will the world look like in 2035? PC gaming will be dead, everyone will happily stream new titles from XAi/Antropic data centers. At a certain point titles will only be cloud release, then there will be absolutely no reason to build a $10,000 computer for 99.5% of the population.
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Good grief enough with all the doom and gloom shit, prices will come back down once the hype craze is over.
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Until the end of the hype, all there will be is gripe.
Some want to move people to dumb terminal, Dell-Apple-Samsung and others that make good money selling computers want to continue to sell computers, people able to create a moat by exclusive access that can charge to their computer (nintendo-sony, etc....) want to continue to sell computers, "they" is never some large consensus without some opposite they that want to make money the other side.
Has things goes Apple will gladly sell you a nice computer with a nice gpu to play game on it in 2035, so will Nintendo with its Switch 3, except of course if everyone choose to stream new title from data center and stop buying those, like they did with Steam vs physical PC games. People are not that excited to have to run costly datacenter to stream game to people, they really do not mind people using a bit of their own compute-electtriciy to render fornite on their ends (why would they care, what does it change it exclusively save them money of their side of things)...
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Another war will start before this happens.
About 75% of Dell comes from Enterprise Clients. And it's not like if we went dumb terminals, they couldn't be the suppliers of the dumb terminals.
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“NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti Climbs $160 in Eight Days, Now 79% Over MSRP
by DrUsmanSaleem Today, 12:44 Discuss (9 Comments)NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 Ti is now close to double its $749 MSRP in the US. According to price tracking by VideoCardz, the cheapest RTX 5070 Ti at major US retailers was $1,339.99 on November 6, about 79% above MSRP, up from $1,179.99 on October 29. That's a $160 jump in just eight days. Some models have already crossed the 2x mark, like the ASUS TUF Gaming OC at $1,499.99 on B&H. Prices are also moving fast. At the time of writing, the cheapest RTX 5070 Ti sold by Newegg itself is an MSI SHADOW RTX 5070 Ti at $1,409.99. Things aren't much better in Germany, where the cheapest listing on Geizhals sits at €1,300 for a PNY model, roughly 48% above the €879 MSRP.
Things are probably going to get worse, too. NVIDIA's board partners in China are reportedly raising RTX 5070 Ti prices by around 1,000 RMB (about $150) this week, with retail prices expected to follow within a week or two. Unlike the RTX 5090 and 5080 16 GB, which have reportedly been discontinued, the RTX 5070 Ti is still officially in production. After reports of an end of production in January early this year, NVIDIA said it was still shipping all GeForce SKUs, and ASUS denied the card was end-of-life, while admitting that memory supply was hurting production and restocking. The card is still listed at major retailers, unlike the RTX 5080, which vanished from NVIDIA's US Marketplace two weeks after the RTX 5090 did the same. Anyone shopping for an RTX 5070 Ti should probably expect these prices to keep rising for a while.“
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“Good Luck Getting a Cheap GPU. AMD Is a 'Data Center First Company,' CEO Says
Days after US voters approved dozens of data center moratoriums, Lisa Su says she wants AMD to 'be the best partner to the largest users of compute in the world.'”https://www.pcmag.com/news/good-luck-getting-a-cheap-gpu-amd-is-a-data-center-first-company-ceo-says
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Just thought I'd share, since sometimes I keep track. Difference between 3 months.
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The problem is all these semiconductor industries have drank from that near infinite well of profit and even if things are cheaper they may not want to lower prices
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sorry, this is humorous
yes if that what people choose they will pivot, but as long people buy dell Laptop and server... specially if that boost change they in the future buy dell service, they will continue to do so...
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Well, shit. This didn't age well at all.
To be fair, gamers can’t get mad at AMD for abandoning them when Radeon has fallen to 5% market share.
The current situation is driven by insane demand on one end, and a
supply shortage on the other. The likely consequence is you’ll have new entrants to take advantage of the big profits that can be had, and this will drive costs back down. We’re already seeing this in memory with companies like CXMT entering in, only there is still such a huge demand for DRAM at this point that the new entrants aren’t making a difference.
The supply “shortage” is driven by GPU companies swapping orders over to AI accelerators. It’s really just a supply shift to a much more more profitable design. Now if u want a GPU, your going to pay AI accelerator prices because that’s the market value for this silicon.
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That would be so true if we lived in a vacuum, but we don't. AMD has not been competitive with their competitor for far too long now. And releasing a subpar product in comparison to their competitor while pricing it within arm's reach of their competitor (as the tech tubers say, "Nvidia -$50") is a big reason why their market share has cratered.
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Everytime I see this thread bumped up, I get more depressed. I really thought this would have been a 5 page thread at most.
Agreed that AMD’s insistence on their “Nvidia but maybe 10% less” pricing model is a big reason why they’re down on market share. They got the launch price of the 9070XT correct, and it showed in their sales numbers. Lining up against a 5070Ti, up until a few months ago, the 9070XT was as much as $500CAD less here in Canada, most likely due to GDDR6 pricing vs GDDR7, and Nvidia’s superior AI performance. In any case, at that delta, it was a no brainer, you got the 9070XT for gaming every single time. But it needs to be measurably less. 10% isn’t enough. I would say if AMD wants the share, when you’re a 5% player, you probably have to be 20-25% less to get people’s attention. Obviously AMD needs to push for maximizing profits, but profit is zero if you have no customers, and you’ll continue having no customers if no one ever uses your product. Getting customers needs to be their first priority, and then they can focus on maximizing profits. Nvidia sets the price because they have the mind share.
In any case, it’s not going to matter anymore. The supply-demand imbalance for compute of any kind, at this point, is extreme, and will get worse with more adoption of open source home AI projects. AMD’s going to go after that, and gamers can’t push back saying “we built your business” when they progressively started to walk away from Radeon 10-15 years ago.
Ok, but what do you expect them to do? Walk away from orders of magnitude money because “nah dude, we’re gonna do gamers a solid”? Even if they tried that, you’d suddenly run into a lot of “gamers” going store to store and clearing out 5090s for $2,000 when they were willing to pay $10,000. No business would ever operate that way. It sucks and I hate it, but they’re acting rationally.
This is a dance, it is not just AMD but maybe 10% less.... it is also Nvidia, AMD but 10% more the moment this change and sales move that often happen, AMD does not have the money-volume to make super middle of generation refresh like that.
Nvidia has the volume + war chest + cheaper video card to make, there is no reason they would not always find the tipping point to keep their market share regardless of what AMD choose to price theirs.... HUB and many others analysis can sound a bit focused on boutique GPUs sales that talk to them, in a 50 millions dgpu a year world, that hyper focus 200,000 GPU sold at launch that could have been 300,000 instead if there was a 9800xt sku can get a bit over-weighted... those are some 0.2% shift toward a direction or an other market share.
Nvidia has the volume + war chest + cheaper video card to make, there is no reason they would not always find the tipping point to keep their market share regardless of what AMD choose to price theirs.... HUB and many others analysis can sound a bit focused on boutique GPUs sales that talk to them, in a 50 millions dgpu a year world, that hyper focus 200,000 GPU sold at launch that could have been 300,000 instead if there was a 9800xt sku can get a bit over-weighted... those are some 0.2% shift toward a direction or an other market share.
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yeah, probably starting next gen (Q3 next year), AMD is likely to target prosumers first (for local AI) & gamers would be a last preference
I am not sure they do, there was a who good 25M-30M gaming console sold in 2026 (that enough silicon-memory for all the gaming dgpu you can want to sell right there, there is 50m dgpu in totals max) , I am not sure that in the gaming world there is much orders by people going on outside of that...
I.e. I wouild not imagine an AMD-Nvidia cancelled and swapped anyone order to go toward AI accelerator, more than the ASUS-MSI-Alienware type were not big 2 years in advance bulk lock ordering gpu dies, more last minute type of people, the whole supply chain just a way worse customer always trying to maximise and never commit capital aggressively on anything, same goes for the end customer, one commit the others (gamers) wait to pay once the product exist.
It is about who actually put orders more than having to swap already on the book one.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/create-markets-says-nvidia-ceo-144521033.html
As Jensen said before “we create markets, we don’t compete in markets”. Nvidia doesn’t care about AMD’s pricing, and generally, nor do their customers. AMD follows their lead. They’re lagging behind right now in technology and can only compete in price. At 5% market share, Nvidia doesn’t care what AMD does, and they’re saying so out loud. If AMD manages to claw back a bunch of share, then Nvidia might be concerned, but they don’t view them as much of a threat in the GPU space.
Consider the deals being cut. Nvidia sells everything they make. AMD offers warrant options to their customers to give them a stake in the company alongside product they’re selling. Nvidia doesn’t have to do that.
That's kind of what I am saying in between the lines - that's what the the obvious economic path is... But here we are with 38 pages of.. people expecting something different. Supply will eventually catch up with demand, but it will be a few years at least.
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That an overexageration, there was a 3090TI when AMD had a 6950xt and no 4090TI-5090TI when AMD had nothing (you could bet those launch the second Nvidia are able to get them out of the door if AMD had close to the halo card prestige), there was a super cycle everytime AMD sales matched Nvidia and not this generation when AMD does not bring supply, Nvidia always react to others when they need to, it just does not happen every cycle.
They would not make giant effort to keep things secret, decide pricing last minutes spend hundreds of millions updating a super series update and a long list of stuff if they
) really didn't care about other and were selling everything they made regardless... They would not also jump in when some products can be sold in China... that because of course they cannot sell everything they made that does not require the fanciest packaging-latest HBM, that the only exception because of how much those bottleneck constraint the supply.
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I think it will still stay “bad” and I have to get a 200 dollar replacement still for my vega56..I’d hate to downgrade with my 8gb of hbm2 and does extremely well in 1080p.
The hike in ddr4 has yet to go away either and something else I’m postponing and do need for a board that does channel drop out.
It’s where I sit back and don’t care lounge my Clayton 93” trailer and just don’t care..I’d buy ya pack of 305s and up tonight the dg was hit pretty hard today…I got some good head miller light for ya also old label white can..look at the treat the head there some foamy goofiness…and yeah hello from Florida and I don’t drink liquor but I do line beer. Will enjoy miller lights corn head and just the right amount of sugar.
And when you get 305s need to get the full flavors they burn alittle slower and less like paper inhaled. So cheers with ya. I hope the mission bible and Thomas Nelson can find you too and wish us good luck..
I don’t know what your price range is but if it’s like mine not very good we’d rather just wait and something else shilled out of parts.
Something these forums have a good Lounge page or off topic. So no I’m not hijacking your thread just how the forums are..I can’t foresee or say how the gpu market will do, sit and wait.
The hike in ddr4 has yet to go away either and something else I’m postponing and do need for a board that does channel drop out.
It’s where I sit back and don’t care lounge my Clayton 93” trailer and just don’t care..I’d buy ya pack of 305s and up tonight the dg was hit pretty hard today…I got some good head miller light for ya also old label white can..look at the treat the head there some foamy goofiness…and yeah hello from Florida and I don’t drink liquor but I do line beer. Will enjoy miller lights corn head and just the right amount of sugar.
And when you get 305s need to get the full flavors they burn alittle slower and less like paper inhaled. So cheers with ya. I hope the mission bible and Thomas Nelson can find you too and wish us good luck..
I don’t know what your price range is but if it’s like mine not very good we’d rather just wait and something else shilled out of parts.
Something these forums have a good Lounge page or off topic. So no I’m not hijacking your thread just how the forums are..I can’t foresee or say how the gpu market will do, sit and wait.
