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After playing with it a couple of weeks, the 10Pro is really impressing me. General use all day capped off with a 2.5 hour call while hot spotting my tablet. Finished the day a bit below 50% (forget the number). It's snappy, the screen is lovely, no issues that matter.
 
As previously stated, manual control would be appreciated, and having a charge limiter (allowing us to automatically limit charge to only 80%) so we can prevent the battery degradation before it happens would be much better.

But google being google they want to rely on their automated algorithm and sleep time charging to 100% by the time you set your alarm to get up, etc. etc. instead of just allowing for some rational technology based controls like a manual charge limit.

And part of this might be because they want you to wear out your battery, so you buy another phone. o_O That wouldn't surprise me at all.

For what it is worth, I just noticed that this setting appeared on my 7 Pro.

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I'm not sure when it did. I only just noticed it.

Thanks Google.

This should have happened years ago though. It has long been known that charging lithium ion batteries over 80% increases wear.
 
I thought this has been a Pixel thing for a while now?

I've never seen the 80% charging limit before now.

It sure as hell wasn't there earlier in this thread when I was looking into the settings for the "Battery Health Assistance" setting.

So at least on my 7 Pro it was added since August 26th.

I can't remember the last time I was informed of a system update, but whenever that was, that was probably when my phone got it.
 
https://www.androidpolice.com/tensor-g5-complaints/

Tensor isn't the problem...you are.

Reminds me of the Apple "you're holding your phone wrong" antenna issue.
What a crock of shit!
I own all of them and the simple fact until this day NONE of these shitty SOCs has the computational power to properly capture 4K60 HDR on device is pathetic. Apple has been doing it since 2019 FFS.

Never owned the original Pixel Fold due to them putting the Tensor 2 in it. The 9 Pro Fold and 10 Pro fold are essentially the same device. At least wireless charging was fixed (in the 10). But if I were a typical phone user and had the 9 Pro Fold, would I recommend "upgrading" to the 10 Pro Fold? That's like asking me if I trust the government! ;-)

Only IF (Google) stuck with Qualcomm and used their flagship processors from the Pixel 6 series onward. This would never be an issue. They have no problem with charging flagship prices. And don't even get me started on them (still) offering 128GB as entry storage and UFS 3.0...
 
I used every pixel from the OG to 7. After that I switched to Samsung and never looked back. Not that I like Samsung all that much better, but at least it still has a small phone that actually works the way I want it to.
 
I used every pixel from the OG to 7. After that I switched to Samsung and never looked back. Not that I like Samsung all that much better, but at least it still has a small phone that actually works the way I want it to.
My GF switched to an S25 Ultra a couple months ago and she loves it. I'm now using her P9PXL. From a hardware perspective, there is no perspective. The S25 is light years ahead in damn near every way. I'm still not quite sold on Samsung's OS, though. I plan on trying the S26, early next year.
 
Last year I had the S24 Ultra and Pixel 9 Pro XL, and yes of course the Galaxy Ultra clearly had better [H]ardware no question, but there's just some magic sauce in the Pixel UI, I found the 9 Pro XL a better fluid and cooler and more fun phone to use daily compared to the S24 Ultra.

One UI is very good now, but it's hard to explain it's just not the same as the Pixel UI. Especially with Material 3 the way the whole system is designed looks really cool. But Samsung has like old Windows 95 OS style stuff buried deep in the phone LOL.
 
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I would take a 5% salary cut if all software looked like win95 tomorrow and they promised to never remove things like LABELS ever again. Or make everything flat so you have no idea what's clickable and what's not.
 
I would take a 5% salary cut if all software looked like win95 tomorrow and they promised to never remove things like LABELS ever again. Or make everything flat so you have no idea what's clickable and what's not.
Yeah, window edges and drop shadows are best.
 
I'm about to come crawling back to the Pixel because I would be compromising something or other with a newer model.

i figured that I would go with something that just feels more natural to use. Sure, the Galaxy S series is probably going to be more performant but it has only ever felt weird to handle or operate.
 
My GF switched to an S25 Ultra a couple months ago and she loves it. I'm now using her P9PXL. From a hardware perspective, there is no perspective. The S25 is light years ahead in damn near every way. I'm still not quite sold on Samsung's OS, though. I plan on trying the S26, early next year.

I haven't had a Samsung since back in the Galaxy S3 days. Back then I loved the hardware, but hated the OS/Software/UI.

It's funny that over a decade later, things appear to have not changed.

I wonder if any of the current Samsung models can accept 3rd party ROM's out of the box.

Might be worth it if you can get it to run LineageOS or maybe GrapheneOS on it.
 
I haven't had a Samsung since back in the Galaxy S3 days. Back then I loved the hardware, but hated the OS/Software/UI.

It's funny that over a decade later, things appear to have not changed.

I wonder if any of the current Samsung models can accept 3rd party ROM's out of the box.

Might be worth it if you can get it to run LineageOS or maybe GrapheneOS on it.
My last Samsung was the Note 5. Loved that device and used it until it literally fell apart. I've tried several Galaxies since, but always ended up returning them. The S25 is a brilliant piece of hardware. Wish it could run stock Android. :(
 
My last Samsung was the Note 5. Loved that device and used it until it literally fell apart. I've tried several Galaxies since, but always ended up returning them. The S25 is a brilliant piece of hardware. Wish it could run stock Android. :(
The funny thing is that my feelings on the S25 Ultra and Z Fold 7 are split even though the software and some of the core experience is basically identical.

The S25U? Technically excellent, but feels dull — especially now that the Pixel 10 Pro XL and iPhone 17 Pro are out and simply have more character. The Z Fold 7? Extra-hot. You still have to be okay with One UI, but the incredible engineering for a foldable makes it a treat even if the software is very familiar. Google feels like it whiffed the Pixel 10 Pro Fold even if it's still technically solid.

Me, I'd get a Pixel 10 Pro XL if just because I love mobile photography and 'clean' Android. But I won't deny that Samsung is often the better choice for many people.
 
I haven't had a Samsung since back in the Galaxy S3 days. Back then I loved the hardware, but hated the OS/Software/UI.

It's funny that over a decade later, things appear to have not changed.

I wonder if any of the current Samsung models can accept 3rd party ROM's out of the box.

Might be worth it if you can get it to run LineageOS or maybe GrapheneOS on it.

Samsung has closed that opportunity unfortunately. Across the globe. OEM unlocking of bootloaders is not possible.
There may be workarounds just like in the past with rare opportunities involving leaked engineering recoveries and such but like jailbreaking in iOS, it's no longer practical for the vast majority of users.
 
Samsung has closed that opportunity unfortunately. Across the globe. OEM unlocking of bootloaders is not possible.
There may be workarounds just like in the past with rare opportunities involving leaked engineering recoveries and such but like jailbreaking in iOS, it's no longer practical for the vast majority of users.
That is a shame.

Maybe it is worth giving one of the Nothing Phone's a try.

I've heard positive things about the Nothing Phone 3, but I can't remember if those positive things said anything about the performance.
 
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Last year I had the S24 Ultra and Pixel 9 Pro XL, and yes of course the Galaxy Ultra clearly had better [H]ardware no question, but there's just some magic sauce in the Pixel UI, I found the 9 Pro XL a better fluid and cooler and more fun phone to use daily compared to the S24 Ultra.

One UI is very good now, but it's hard to explain it's just not the same as the Pixel UI. Especially with Material 3 the way the whole system is designed looks really cool. But Samsung has like old Windows 95 OS style stuff buried deep in the phone LOL.

It's funny, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is to replace the launcher, so I never have to see the Pixel Launcher or any of its Assistant stuff. I also re-enable the three navigation buttons on the bottom.

I guess this minimizes the amount I see the Pixel UI.

I then go through every single setting in settings, and disable anything that either overtly or implicitly looks lie it contacts the cloud or uses AI.

I essentially purposely return my phone to 2015. I don't need or want anything sync, anything assistant, or anything AI. I wish I could eliminate the NPU completely from modern phones, as that just makes it easier for them to tell you shit like "your pictures never leave your device" and then just analyze them using AI on the device and still send the same bad summary data they would have gotten from analyzing the data in the cloud anyway, but using less of their power.

Ideally in my perfect world I'd be able to find a phone with absolutely zero cloud integration, assistant or AI features.

GrapheneOS seems like the best choice here right now, but then I am stuck with Pixel hardware...
 
That is a shame.

Maybe it is worth giving one of the Nothing Phone's a try.

I've heard positive things about the Nothing Phone 3, but I can't remember if those positive things said anything about the performance.
I've used a Nothing phone (the 2a Plus) and generally have experience with them, so I can weigh in a bit.

The Phone 3 is a not-quite-flagship device. It's using a Snadpragon 8s Gen 4, not the 8 Elite, so it's not as fast as an S25 or other modern flagships. The cameras are also alright but not spectacular.

However, I will say this: Nothing's UI is a nice balance between clean Android and distinct character. It can have their aesthetic if you like, but you're not wedded to it like you are with Samsung. And while the specs aren't top-tier, I love how Nothing stands out in a sea of same-ish devices, particularly on the Android front.
 
I've used a Nothing phone (the 2a Plus) and generally have experience with them, so I can weigh in a bit.

The Phone 3 is a not-quite-flagship device. It's using a Snadpragon 8s Gen 4, not the 8 Elite, so it's not as fast as an S25 or other modern flagships. The cameras are also alright but not spectacular.

However, I will say this: Nothing's UI is a nice balance between clean Android and distinct character. It can have their aesthetic if you like, but you're not wedded to it like you are with Samsung. And while the specs aren't top-tier, I love how Nothing stands out in a sea of same-ish devices, particularly on the Android front.

If I'm going to be honest, I am perfectly happy with the performance and camera in Pixel 7 Pro from 3 years ago, and as I previously stated, I use my phones like it is 2015. I don't use any of the new "features" they have dreamed up since then.

For me, phones have gone from being exciting cutting edge devices 10+ years ago, to just being basic utility devices to me at this point. I don't need or care about any of the latest features, CPU's or GPU's. I don't need them. The basic option will do just fine.

I would honestly never have chosen the Pixel 7 Pro if I had a choice and had to pay for it. I had a phone coverage plan and my Pixel 5a died. It just didn't turn on one day, bricked without any apparent reason. Normally I would have gotten a like for like replacement, but it was towards the end of Pixel 5a support. Apparently they were out of 5a replacements, so they sent me a Pixel 7 Pro.

Only downside is that the 7 pro's battery has recently started to get real tired.

I guess I am trying to determine if I think it is worth it to get a replacement phone, or if I should just pay someone to replace the battery, and then maybe flash GrapheneOS to it and use it for another 2 years until support ends.

I really wish I didn't have to replace my phone every few years when it still works just fine. I've had my Dell Latitude E6540 since 2013 and it still works just fine. Up until Microsoft magically made computers EOL with Windows 11, the latitude ran just fine and had more than sufficient performance.

It is a real shame the same isn't true for phones. I'd probably still be using my Nexus 5x :D

The Nexus 5x was an amazing no-nonsense phone that just worked. I wish I could still have one just like it. I think the Nexus 5x was the last phone I had that I really truly liked.
 
If I'm going to be honest, I am perfectly happy with the performance and camera in Pixel 7 Pro from 3 years ago, and as I previously stated, I use my phones like it is 2015. I don't use any of the new "features" they have dreamed up since then.

For me, phones have gone from being exciting cutting edge devices 10+ years ago, to just being basic utility devices to me at this point. I don't need or care about any of the latest features, CPU's or GPU's. I don't need them. The basic option will do just fine.

I would honestly never have chosen the Pixel 7 Pro if I had a choice and had to pay for it. I had a phone coverage plan and my Pixel 5a died. It just didn't turn on one day, bricked without any apparent reason. Normally I would have gotten a like for like replacement, but it was towards the end of Pixel 5a support. Apparently they were out of 5a replacements, so they sent me a Pixel 7 Pro.

Only downside is that the 7 pro's battery has recently started to get real tired.

I guess I am trying to determine if I think it is worth it to get a replacement phone, or if I should just pay someone to replace the battery, and then maybe flash GrapheneOS to it and use it for another 2 years until support ends.

I really wish I didn't have to replace my phone every few years when it still works just fine. I've had my Dell Latitude E6540 since 2013 and it still works just fine. Up until Microsoft magically made computers EOL with Windows 11, the latitude ran just fine and had more than sufficient performance.

It is a real shame the same isn't true for phones. I'd probably still be using my Nexus 5x :D

The Nexus 5x was an amazing no-nonsense phone that just worked. I wish I could still have one just like it. I think the Nexus 5x was the last phone I had that I really truly liked.
I'd look into the cost of a battery replacement versus the trade-in value for a newer phone like the Pixel 9a or Nothing Phone 3a. If you're not going to pay much more for the new phone, then jump in.

(Nothing trade-ins are trickier, but Best Buy might do the job.)

I hear you on phone longevity, although it makes sense given how phones have evolved. Performance upgrades are still more noticeable on phones than they are with PCs (at least, with more demanding tasks). And of course, you're bound to tax the battery more on a phone simply because it's not often practical to use plugged in. Me, I need a recent high-end phone simply because I use the cameras for work in addition to a lot of app juggling... but as the Pixel 9a shows, you can get a genuinely good experience out of a mid-tier phone these days.
 
Me, I need a recent high-end phone simply because I use the cameras for work in addition to a lot of app juggling

I often hear people say things like this, that they are heavy phone users, etc. etc and thus need a more capable phone, but I am going to be completely honest I do not understand it at all.

I run many different apps on my Pixel 7 Pro. I even have scripted things going on in the background (like syncing with my own NAS for backups.

I switch between apps all of the time, and I take lots of pictures.

And never even once in the ~year and a half I have had this phone has it ever felt slow, or unresponsive at all. The UI is smooth. Apps switch instantaneously. Pictures are fast. I can't envision how that could feel any faster or any better with a different phone.

My only two gripes with it are the stupid through screen fingerprint sensor, which I hate compared to the old rear ones, and that I need to go through and disable all the cloud, AI and telemetry tomfoolery in the settings, and even then can't turn it all off.

I feel like there definitely was a time when phones were advancing at a breakneck speed, and your one year old phone felt painfully slow, and you could barely wait for the 2 years to pass so you could qualify for a carrier upgrade, but honestly, that was 10-15 years ago.

I feel like in the last 10 years phones have hit a similar plateau as PC's have, with only marginal incremental improvements that you probably don't even notice unless you play games on your phone or something. That's probably the only use of phones that really challenges the CPU and GPU these days.
 
I often hear people say things like this, that they are heavy phone users, etc. etc and thus need a more capable phone, but I am going to be completely honest I do not understand it at all.

I run many different apps on my Pixel 7 Pro. I even have scripted things going on in the background (like syncing with my own NAS for backups.

I switch between apps all of the time, and I take lots of pictures.

And never even once in the ~year and a half I have had this phone has it ever felt slow, or unresponsive at all. The UI is smooth. Apps switch instantaneously. Pictures are fast. I can't envision how that could feel any faster or any better with a different phone.

My only two gripes with it are the stupid through screen fingerprint sensor, which I hate compared to the old rear ones, and that I need to go through and disable all the cloud, AI and telemetry tomfoolery in the settings, and even then can't turn it all off.

I feel like there definitely was a time when phones were advancing at a breakneck speed, and your one year old phone felt painfully slow, and you could barely wait for the 2 years to pass so you could qualify for a carrier upgrade, but honestly, that was 10-15 years ago.

I feel like in the last 10 years phones have hit a similar plateau as PC's have, with only marginal incremental improvements that you probably don't even notice unless you play games on your phone or something. That's probably the only use of phones that really challenges the CPU and GPU these days.
In my case it's that the camera quality and performance is vital. It can mean the difference between nailing a shot on the first try (especially at events) versus having to edit or even scrap it. And modern phones used well can often be mistaken for good dedicated mirrorless cameras.

For multitasking, I agree there are diminishing returns for some people. Me, it's more that I want every app to be fast as I hop between them, and to stay in memory for as long as possible. There are times when things really are time-sensitive in a way that they won't be for most people. Heck, the Nothing Phone 2a Plus was adequate even if I could spot the differences.

In-screen fingerprint sensors are often fine — it's Google's implementation on the Pixel 7 Pro that might rub you the wrong way. The Pixel 9 series was much improved on that front.
 
In my case it's that the camera quality and performance is vital. It can mean the difference between nailing a shot on the first try (especially at events) versus having to edit or even scrap it. And modern phones used well can often be mistaken for good dedicated mirrorless cameras.

Yeah,m I know. I used to be into photography as a hobby, but I have completely tired of it now that nearly anyone with a smartphone can achieve similar result to my old "perfect shots". It took the fun completely out of it.

For multitasking, I agree there are diminishing returns for some people. Me, it's more that I want every app to be fast as I hop between them, and to stay in memory for as long as possible. There are times when things really are time-sensitive in a way that they won't be for most people. Heck, the Nothing Phone 2a Plus was adequate even if I could spot the differences.

I haven't come across a scenario when I couldn't switch instantaneously between apps, but I will have to take your word for it. I use mostly office/email/messaging/communication apps, not things that do lots of image processing.

In-screen fingerprint sensors are often fine — it's Google's implementation on the Pixel 7 Pro that might rub you the wrong way. The Pixel 9 series was much improved on that front.

So, the implementation in my Pixel 7 pro is indeed imperfect. It often fails to identify my trained fingers. But I tend to think that even if it read my fingers perfectly every time, the concept is a flawed one, simply because the screen is smooth. When I had a rear fingerprint sensor I could stick my hand in my pocket, grab my phone and my index finger would already be on the sensor as the phone was in motion towards my field of view. By the time I could see the screen, it was already unlocked.

With even a theoretical perfect through the glass fingerprint sensor, unless you put something on there to indicate finger position by feel (which would distort the screen view, and be suboptimal) it requires you to have eyeballs on screen in order to aim before using the fingerprint sensor. It may seem like a minor factor of only seconds, but people unlock their phones a lot, and it gets old in a hurry. I'd take the rear fingerprint sensor 100 times out of 100. Other than the novelty "look isn't that cool, it's works through the screen" which is not really that novel any more now that most phones have it, the front through screen fingerprint reader has only drawbacks, and no benefits over the rear design.
 
Phones have gotten to the point that the performance is not a issue even on cheap phones for majority of people. Sure it matters to some that only have their phone and that is where all their computing is done. I rather have a phone that can last over 20 hours of screen use then bleeding edge performance. I don't game or edit videos on my phone.
 
First day out with the new phone, I'm going to need a case pronto. I also should have gotten the XL. I've got little elvish hands but my eyesight and the general layout of this little display is going to be a readjustment.

Okay found my missing resolution.
 
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Why are they so slick? Bout dropped it twice now.
Or, why I consider a case virtually mandatory for most phones now. I used to be Team Caseless until I dropped my phone and dented it… I’m willing to cover up if it means avoiding a pricey repair!

(Edit: 5,000th post, egads)
 
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Or, why I consider a case virtually mandatory for most phones now. I used to be Team Caseless until I dropped my phone and dented it… I’m willing to cover up if it means avoiding a pricey repair!
The case I want for the phone can't be found locally. It won't be delivered till this weekend.

Every phone I have had gets a case. This is one of those times, one couldn't be found that I usually get when I pick up the phone.

It's a nice phone so far. Everything transfered over in good time.
 
Why are they so slick? Bout dropped it twice now.
I remember back when the 6 was coming out that Google had some marketing about it.
Something about being more pocketable.
Which is fine if that was all that it meant.
Because of the camera bump I've never been able to lay one of these phones on a desk without it sliding off a short time later.



I'm still struggling with the text formatting.
It's such a non-issue with every other phone.
I've got a shitty Zebra phone that I have to use at my job that doesn't have this problem.
 
The case I want for the phone can't be found locally. It won't be delivered till this weekend.

Every phone I have had gets a case. This is one of those times, one couldn't be found that I usually get when I pick up the phone.

It's a nice phone so far. Everything transfered over in good time.
Ah, I understand. Apologies for my tone.
 
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