Mystique
Limp Gawd
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Good talk, great points.
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No amount of compression is going to stuff a day's worth of audio into several dozen kilobytes of traffic. Remember, NIZMOZ said 78KB in one day, not per packet. It doesn't matter which servers are involved if there's so little traffic that you'd use up more bandwidth with a one-page Word file.Name one way. The reality is that you won't know. And they will lie to you about doing it. If this comes back to the 74 KB packet thing, just wow. lol. You leave wireshark running 24/7 and read every single SYN ACK? Lets say you did that, you still have no idea what's behind the encrypted data anyways. You even know what their compression looks like? Are you sure they're not using multiple servers to send this data, and some may not be branded to them?
Good luck proving this. AWS is 49% of amazon's revenue and powers a ton of the internet. x.aws.com is going to look mighty bland in your traffic log when you're browsing the web, you know.
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The ship sailed, my friend. Be vigilant.
No amount of compression is going to stuff a day's worth of audio into several dozen kilobytes of traffic. Remember, NIZMOZ said 78KB in one day, not per packet. It doesn't matter which servers are involved if there's so little traffic that you'd use up more bandwidth with a one-page Word file.
And we come back to the central point that you keep dodging: you can't claim it's happening unless you have evidence. No, I can't prove it isn't happening, but I'm not making definitive claims to that effect at this time; I just know that the evidence so far doesn't point to non-stop recording. Your 'evidence' so far amounts to "I feel they're the sort of company that would do it." That's not good enough; you don't need a smoking gun, but you at least need strongly suspicious activity.
Thanks... of course, 2.9MB is still extremely unlikely to be enough for a continuous audio recording, even with high compression and garbage audio quality!Let me apologize. I had the wrong device when I checked the upload. I just checked now, and our main Alexa that is used daily has around 2.9MB or less daily upload. That is at the highest point as see below. The total amount for a month is only 79 MB. Even then, that isn't much for a whole month.
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It's wouldn't be continuous, I'm sure it would discard and not send back garbage or useless audio that is empty.Thanks... of course, 2.9MB is still extremely unlikely to be enough for a continuous audio recording, even with high compression and garbage audio quality!
But that's what people are asserting, and even if it only waited until it heard clear voices, there's no guarantee those words would be relevant. Never mind looking for a needle in a haystack, you're looking for a needle in a needle factory.It's wouldn't be continuous, I'm sure it would discard and not send back garbage or useless audio that is empty.
From each according to her ability, to each according to her needs? You are paying Amazon to give the bandwidth you paid for to other people.Mate, using amazon devices is a privilege, not a right.
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