Yeah, I know the problem, that's why I'm not holding my breath for great news when real benchmarks come out. I'm looking at some upgrades and swaps with my home server, my desktop and, my son's desktop and my daughter(2) desktops. I use my server for recording live TV with Plex. I use it for some development (remote visual studio code install), a couple of local Minecraft servers, file server, and a few other odds and ends. It would be nice to have something with hardware transcoding, so waiting to see the new AMD Apu compared to a chip with quicksync, compared to just reusing my ryzen 1600 with a cheap GPU thrown in. I am not in a rush. I was going to go all in for AMD, but if my b450 can't be upgraded to zen3 then I have to upgrade it either way so I may as well check it what Intel has and how much. I try not to make decisions until I have the data to support it. Like you, I have a pretty good idea that AMD is still going to be the $/perf leader and they have their new stuff coming out that will possibly put them further ahead (depending on how they price it).The problem with the mid range offerings is the price. You're still paying $260+ for an unlocked part which is $100 more than the 3600. The plain old locked i5 is ~$190-200, but you're not going to get that 5Ghz boost speed. You're only looking at 4.3 which is going to perform essentially the same as the 3600(x) for the same price. It's not unreasonable for someone to put an extra $100 toward a video card instead of the unlocked CPU.