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I have installed Windows on a regular basis and so far, I have not seen it even once. (The last time I actually saw something even remotely like this was back in teh 1511 release days.)
Well, except for being offline, which at least now you will finally admit can be done.
Well, with screenshots, I believed him. I just took exception to his refusal to acknowledge, at first, that you could do it online.
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Well, whether I believe him or not is not relevant, I need to see it consistently happening, across the board, for it to truly be the case. I have yet to produce the issue, even one single time and I have tried in multiple ways without it showing up. There must be something specific that is being done that is causing the issue to occur that only he is doing, insofar as the people here are concerned. Computers are not random, things can be directly repeatable and for this thing, they are not repeatable by others.
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Except, of course, for the fact that there is, which at least you eventually acknowledged, which was all I was ever trying to say. But keep pretending you're not insulting people.
I mean, if I saw it once, I'd believe it. (And he's posted screenshots, and Lakotos, I think, found an article confirming it.) But the thing is, the article also says they turned it off in 1903, so I'm not sure at this point if you can still observe the behavior if you go and create a new ISO now.
And, of course, it was never true that there was NO WAY AROUND IT, which he finally admitted.
Edit: actually I did see it when I upgraded my motherboard a few weeks ago, because I couldn't figure out how to get a local account--I mentioned it on page 1 or 2--I already had a Microsoft account because I've had a Hotmail account forever, so I just used that, and then created a local account afterwards and deleted the MIcrosoft account off the computer. But I didn't realize the "don't connect to the Internet" thing would work at that point.
Just where did I admit it couldn't be done? You're just making things up now.
And every one of those claims turned out to be true.
This all started as a result of a factual and 100% correct claim regarding the Windows 10 Home installer and Microsoft accounts, and straight off the bat the response from the usual suspects was one of outright attack with no justification whatsoever. As stated earlier, it seems that if someone posts information that doesn't highlight Microsoft and their products positively the assumption is they must be incorrect - I take offense to that. We've still got one of the usual suspects above stating that I'm doing something specific to my case even after numerous screenshots, linked articles, more than one user reproducing the 'feature' and official word from Microsoft that it is, in fact, now the case!
By definition, that's Stockholm Syndrome coupled with a measure of fingers in ears based on a fairly hefty amount of fanboism.
I know you mentioned it earlier, I made comment on the fact you mentioned it earlier. Highlighting that this whole time, as admitted by yourself, you've been trolling this thread.
How is that in any way mature and adding to the discussion?
Keep reading, to where I quoted you a couple of times. Here it is again, in post #166: "there is no way around the creation of a Microsoft account ONLY on fresh install at the OOBE account creation screen.Once again, there is no way around this." You can go right back up there and see the actual quote I put in, with a link back to your post. You didn't say "if you are online." You said "there is no way around this." In bold italic.
Ahhh, projection. "there is no way around the creation of a Microsoft account ONLY on fresh install at the OOBE account creation screen.Once again, there is no way around this."
What you wrote was wrong. I specifically asked you if you'd tried doing it offline. I even said "please answer the question I asked, instead of answering a different question," and you obligingly answered a different question, as I suspected you would do.
BTW I just built a USB installer with the MCT and installed Windows (1903, I assume--it's still installing) on a freshly-formatted SSD, went online, and, while it begged me 2 or 3 times to use a Microsoft account, it let me make a local one. It also gave me--in small print, at the bottom--the option to skip connecting via wifi, although I did. Of course, since it's 1903, that doesn't prove anything because we already know Microsoft stopped forcing people to create Microsoft accounts when online. I don't know if there's a way to build a fresh installer with 1809 at this point.
In every single instance I was talking about the cloud based installer that 90% of users are going to be subjected to, I was in no way referring to the offline installer and never gave any indication that I was refering to the offline installer - Once again, this all comes back to reading and comprehension.
Nowhere there did I mention the offline installer, quite obviously 'it' refers to the 'online installer'. Quite obviously the offline installer at this point in time does not suffer from this issue. Your attempt to misguide context is pathetic.
Another quote, specifically mentioning as I had many times prior, the cloud based OOBE. I have no idea what you were discussing, but we were all discussing the cloud based OOBE that you all didn't know even existed in the first place!
No...
Since 1903 Microsoft have not stopped forcing users to use a Microsoft account when installing Windows 10 Home connected online at all, no idea where you pulled that from?
Yes, you're either not reading, or not comprehending the point when I repeatedly said "there's no way to create a local account" is not true.
Right, and I asked "did you try doing it offline" about 16 times and you ignored me.
Just because I didn't mention it, because I was trying to figure out why you were refusing to admit there was an offline installer, doesn't mean I missed the fact that you said "cloud" about a billion times.
Captain Comprehension missed me using the word "offline" a dozen times? No! Say it isn't so!
Because I just did it this afternoon, right there in the post you yourself quoted, Captain Reading And Comprehension.
Here, let me quote myself, and make the letters big so you can see them this time.
Can you read it this time, Captain Reading And Comprehension? "went online and it let me make a local one."
ONLINE! ONLINE! Keep the word ONLINE firmly ingrained in that head of yours! No one, including myself, ever disputed the offline installer was not a workaround at this point in time.
No, I told you to go back, read and comprehend my posts.
Your own confusion really isn't my concern. If you can't comprehend what people are posting because you're more concerned about belittling them as opposed to participating in mature logical discussion how is that my fault?
It isn't so.
There's a post very early in the thread where I specifically mentioned that quite obviously an offline install would be a workaround. The problem, and the central argument, was the fact that certain members didn't even know the OOBE could be cloud based in the case of an install whilst connected to the world wide web. Had you been paying attention and eagerly reading and comprehending posts you would have caught onto this very early on in the thread.
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He is full of crap. I have just done 2 fresh installs of windows 10 pro 1903, and both times i had no issues in making a local account, and i did not have to disconnect from the internet.
Dude.
I have posted screenshots of an entire install highlighting this change in OOBE, I have posted a link highlighting this change in OOBE, other users in this very thread have experienced this change in OOBE including the one your replying to and Microsoft have verified this change in OOBE - Do you even know just what the OOBE is? I think from the onset that's been the biggest issue with this thread, that coupled with the fact that the usual suspects had no idea that the OOBE was cloud based where an internet connection was enabled on install.
Someone's full of crap and it's certainly not me. You've missed the exact same point your mate missed.
Lakados, I tip my hat to you, so far you're the only person that's actually worked it out.
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Oh I am sorry! I didn't realize you are complaining about cloud based windows 10.. OOBE is not specific to cloud based, OOBE stands for "Out of Box Experience", which is not just the cloud based or cloud install version. What you are complaining about is the cloud base install... Now think about what you are complaining about:. Cloud base install not giving you a local account option... Again.. cloud based install (aka online install) not giving you a local account option. Hello????????? Why would you even expect the cloud based install to give you such an option? You are not installing it from local media. Hence, i suspect you have to login using your Microsoft account to even begin installing from the cloud. (That is just a guess, because i cloud based install of an OS is something i would never do). Point is, you are expecting your install media to have an install option that doesn't make sense based on the fact that you are chosing the online media. If you want the local option, as other's have suggested, install from USB or dvd version, not the online version.
I'm wondering why this subject is even in this thread as it has nothing to do with the topic the OP started with, which is the changes MS has made to it's terms of service... Which has nothing to do with having a local account option on install.
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Ah, so he is specifically installing a Windows 10 version called Cloud based, which is not OOBE and is not even related to Windows 10 Home. I even specifically said he must be doing something different and now I know he is, that makes a lot of sense. Oh, and I know what OOBE although he is claiming I do not, my post mostly directed at this thread itself and what he was referring too. (Of course, he will link to my post and even claim that I clearly am saying I did not or something.) Finally, someone actually shared what this thing actually is, since I was not aware there was actually a specific version called Cloud, or more specifically, it was referring to Windows 10 S.
Of course I am not going to be able to reproduce the issue, since I only do local installs with local media.
Oh, and as for the original content, that died pretty much like the rest of them, with the conspiracy stuff, people using Linux and others pointing out the context of the post, well others claiming it did not matter, because Microsoft.....
Oh well, except for a slight amount of banter, this has mostly been a respectful back and forth.Since you never actually said what you were actually doing, working it out means nothing since, this is not a puzzle that we are supposed to figure out. You never once said there is a cloud based version of Windows 10, or more specifically, Windows 10 S and you screen shots are not clear enough to even see that. When I zoomed in to see the version you were installing, it was completely blurred and unreadable. Therefore, you are not doing a local install with the media and therefore, the OOBE and cloud are two different things.
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ONLINE! ONLINE!
I installed with the usb installer, Windows 10 Home, was fully online and I was able to install using a offline account. See the post above to make it clear what you would not tell us but MWRMidnight finally let us know."Your own confusion really isn't my concern. If you can't comprehend what people are posting because you're more concerned about belittling them as opposed to participating in mature logical discussion how is that my fault?"
Says the person who called me a flat earther, Microsoft fanboy or something like that and other stuff, all the while not retaliating even once.
I have a thought as to what might be going on, what Mazzspeed might be doing differently that is causing the different results. I won't be able to test until this evening, but since it is just a theory, I'm going to wait until after I test to post more of my thoughts.
Apparently the behavior was Home-only. I'm out of this thread, though, because I caught myself starting to set up a computer to take pictures to prove him wrong, but I'm tired of arguing with someone who's been shown wrong and can't admit it.
I just did my new Dell G5 today and It wouldn’t let me do a local account, I was hardwired Wifi is down ATM while we replace the the PA system and the wifi controller. Which is when I realized they shipped it with home and I had to nuke that shit from orbit. Home edition makes me hurt. That and part of my A5 tenant is an Enterprise license so I might as well use it.
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[Cough] There 'is' no cloud based Windows 10..WTF are you on about?! The OOBE is part of every single Windows 10 install, internet connected or not (notice I'm changing my wording from 'cloud based' to 'internet connected' as cloud based seems to be confusing certain individuals). The OOBE can be changed on the fly by Microsoft when installing Windows 10 in the case of Windows 10 Home connected to Ethernet on install, you have no option 'not to' connect to the internet in the case of Ethernet and therefore there exists the distinct possibility that you will get the same OOBE that I'm getting time and time again that DOES NOT allow for local account creation. Take careful note: There exists the possibility. Read and comprehend my past posts and you'll understand just why I say that. I am also well aware that there exists the possibility to do a fully offline install and never disputed this.
A cloud based Windows 10! Lol!
ONLINE! ONLINE!
You're still missing it! A point I have made more than once and you're still not comprehending it as you're more interested in belittling than reading. Take note of my point above in bold italic.
Excuse me? Once again, I've provided that much evidence contrary to what you blindly believe to be true it's stupidly irrefutable! I'd just love to see where it's been proven that I've been 'shown wrong'? Or are you just going to try and harp on about offline installs that I never once disputed again? And use big scary words like 'Projection'.
I'm not doing anything differently and I am not the only person in this thread including linked articles that has experienced this. I have shown 'step by step' the installation process I am using, I have highlighted the ISO used - Now you tell me, based on that irrefutable evidence, just how the hell I am doing anything differently.
Has education in the US of A dropped sharply? This is absolutely mind boggling!
How about that eh? Of course no one's disputing the possibility of an offline install, until the 'internet connected' OOBE makes it's way onto the physical ISO in relation to Windows 10 Home.
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Dude you are trolling..
Your words:
You yourself bitched and questioned people's knowledge of OOBE, then bring up the cloud, so one's only conclusion was you where installing from the cloud and/or installing the Windows 10S WHICH IS basically a cloud based windows 10.. Why else would you bring it up?
As for cloud based windows (windows 10S): https://www.askvg.com/windows-10-s-new-cloud-based-version-of-windows-10-operating-system/
As for OOBE, you are the one who stated you where talking about OOBE, acted like nobody knew what it was, that it was something special which you stated that OOBE was cloud based (per your own damn words, and btw OOBE is not cloud base. ALL windows since windows 7 has been internet connected on install, heck, I believe that it has been around since windows xp, but I don't fully remember). Get your fact straight if you want to start arguing about something you obviously are just pulling out your ass to troll.
Just to be clear, OOBE is part of every software installation in most cases, that is why it is never talked about because in the manner in which you are applying it. 99.999999% use the terms "installation steps" or something to that nature. Because when you start using the term OOBE in connection to Windows, or any other piece of software that has various different versions, the OOBE is completely different.. (there are enterprise versions for large corporations that have NO OOBE, or at least not one that can be considered an OOBE by any means as they are usually installed remotely with little or not input from the user)
AS for OOBE of windows, it can be customized, so IF you are having issues with YOUR OOBE, then you must have installation files that have been customized by the manufacture:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/customize-oobe
Basically, I suggest you stop trolling.
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Yep, and Lakados says he new Dell G5 would not let him setup a local account but one thing is, did he do the Dell installer by default because that seems to be exactly what he did? If he did that, we all are aware that a setup can be configured to allow or not allow certain things and that is not OS dependent.
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Dell is never a good example of anything, as they manipulate the default installation files to suit their needs (install bloat ware and their propitiatory software, etc).
BTW, the first part of your quote from me wasn't intended, I removed it. Actually it was from a response I started yesterday, and decided it wasn't accurate as he didn't really confirm he was installing windows 10 S, just implied it with his cloud talk. so I didn't post it.. but I tend to forget HardOCP loves to save your draft, and it doesn't clear when you leave the site.. SO I forgot it was there still.. ooops!!
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There is talk that it is only Windows Home that is causing this.. I have a old I5 dell in my closet, I will see if I can install windows 10 Home later today (NO, I won't be using any installation files from dell).
However, so everyone knows, windows 10 ISO that is obtained from MS using the windows media creation utility, is all versions of windows, which version (home/pro/enterprise) is determined by the key you have (it has actually been like this for a number of years now). So I highly doubt the installation steps are going to change, and that those that are having issues, are using installation files that has been customized by the manufacture, or the retail outlet you obtained it from.
EDIT: I just installed Windows 10 Home on the Dell Optimplex 980 using the ISO I got directly from Microsoft using their media creation tool (Windows 10 1903). I did not enter a Key, as I don't have a home key, which prompted me to choose which installation product to choose (I chose Home).
The Option to use offline account is right there at the bottom left of the screen when it prompts to create an account, it has not been removed for the Home version.
So, those that are having problems, the issues is not with Microsoft, but the manufacture of the PC you have (using the supplied install media from them, or pre-installed first time boot up options) or the outlet you purchased your windows media, as they have customized it to not allow the option (not sure if the KEY can dictate the restrictions). IF Microsoft was forcing you to use a Microsoft account, and not offering offline account option, it would for sure happen with me not having a KEY so they can track the installation and ensure I purchase one.
At the end of the day, it is either the user's fault, or the media you have chosen to use for your installation, but it isn't Microsoft causing you your problem.
However, so everyone knows, windows 10 ISO that is obtained from MS using the windows media creation utility, is all versions of windows, which version (home/pro/enterprise) is determined by the key you have (it has actually been like this for a number of years now). So I highly doubt the installation steps are going to change, and that those that are having issues, are using installation files that has been customized by the manufacture, or the retail outlet you obtained it from.
EDIT: I just installed Windows 10 Home on the Dell Optimplex 980 using the ISO I got directly from Microsoft using their media creation tool (Windows 10 1903). I did not enter a Key, as I don't have a home key, which prompted me to choose which installation product to choose (I chose Home).
The Option to use offline account is right there at the bottom left of the screen when it prompts to create an account, it has not been removed for the Home version.
So, those that are having problems, the issues is not with Microsoft, but the manufacture of the PC you have (using the supplied install media from them, or pre-installed first time boot up options) or the outlet you purchased your windows media, as they have customized it to not allow the option (not sure if the KEY can dictate the restrictions). IF Microsoft was forcing you to use a Microsoft account, and not offering offline account option, it would for sure happen with me not having a KEY so they can track the installation and ensure I purchase one.
At the end of the day, it is either the user's fault, or the media you have chosen to use for your installation, but it isn't Microsoft causing you your problem.
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Because....The OOBE....On an Install via boot media when connected to the internet....Is....Downloaded....In....Real time - Therefore, the OOBE portion of the installer (just the OOBE portion, not the whole installer)....Is....Cloud.....Based.
Do you get it yet?
And....They....Did....Not....Have....A....Cloud....Based....OOBE....That...Microsoft....Could....Change....On...The....Fly.
Just the OOBE though - Remember, the OOBE doesn't include the entire installer in Microsoft's terms. The OOBE is only one portion of the installation process.
You don't say? And what if Microsoft have the ability to customize the OOBE on the fly via the cloud, meaning the OOBE you get could be totally different (and is quote often totally different) for each install of the same OS using identical media no matter what version of media is used in the case of a connected install.
My installation media was downloaded directly from Microsoft and installed on a store built device, not a device built by a large OEM manufacturer.
No, see...You're still not getting it, just like your mate above. There is more than one OOBE during an OOBE transition, when you install connected to the internet the OOBE is downloaded on the fly - You don't even know it's happening. How hard is this to comprehend?
Lets go over this again shall we, consolidate all the evidence proving you wrong so far (I suggest you use the middle mouse button and open links as tabs):
First post by me, do you think I made these shots up?
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/#post-1044264971
Then we have the linked article written in the US where the author experiences the exact same 'feature':
https://www.pcworld.com/article/340...rder-to-create-windows-10-local-accounts.html
Then we have me showing every step of the installation process using 1903 media downloaded directly from Microsoft and unmodified installing Windows 10 Home as highlighted on the screen, do you see an option to create a local account there?
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-3#post-1044277235
Then we have evidence of the ISO used and the account creation screen, notice no option for a local account on VM:
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-3#post-1044282378
Then we have the quote by Lakados highlighting Microsoft informing users officially of the changes, with one important piece of misleading information:
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-4#post-1044282492
We have evidence that when connected to the internet via Ethernet there is no option to skip connecting to a network, despite what official word from Microsoft states:
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-4#post-1044282508
Then we have Lakados confirms that after July 2nd Microsoft pulled the option to skip connecting to a network calling the new 'feature' autopilot:
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-4#post-1044282511
And then we have Lakados experiencing the feature himself:
https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-5#post-1044285037
I'm sorry, I know that no matter what you want to believe that Microsoft care about you as a consumer and would never do such a thing as force Microsoft accounts on Home users, but the evidence is irrefutable - They are doing it. Yes, at the moment you can work around the issue by doing an offline install, but I doubt that loophole will last forever in the case of Windows 10 Home and I'm fairly certain the offline install is actually considerably slower - Adding frustration.
If you still don't get it, after all this. If the rest of the Windows fanclub still don't get it either intentionally or as a result of, I dunno, some mental issue (I know at least one has always understood it, he's just been trolling) - I'm not sure what else I can do?!
Believe what you want I suppose? Just understand, the fact you believe it doesn't make it right by any means - Especially when we have official word stating otherwise. Remember, the OOBE is just one portion of the whole installer, there is no 'web installer' (no idea where people got that from) and the OOBE changes on the fly in the case of a connected install, and during transition there's usually more than one OOBE using identical installation media no matter what version of media is used.
This is not an issue triggered by anything I did either intentionally or unintentionally.
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I will say it one more time and that is all, you are doing something different or installing something different from everyone else here because, you are the only one experiencing this "issue". If it were an actual issue and fact, I would have been able to reproduce the same exact symptoms as you say you are, but I have not. Oh well, enjoy, I am done posting and will just read for entertainment value now.
I will say it one more time and that is all, you are doing something different or installing something different from everyone else here because, you are the only one experiencing this "issue". If it were an actual issue and fact, I would have been able to reproduce the same exact symptoms as you say you are, but I have not. Oh well, enjoy, I am done posting and will just read for entertainment value now.
Haha!
Yeah, no problem. Myself, the author of the linked article and Lakados all did something 'different'. The official word from Microsoft must have been in error also. Believe what ever your clouded judgement tells you.
Talk about entertainment value!
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OOBE does not download in real time off of the cloud. (stop with the conspiracy theories). All the installer downloads are the most recent updates.
As for your evidence, which only shows your incompetence as the majority of it is all your screen shots demonstrating that you are trying to install from an ISO that has had it's installation files modified which is confirmed here: https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-updated-its-terms-of-service.1984008/page-3#post-1044282378
It shows the ISO being used. Which IS NOT from Microsoft. It is from various other sites claiming to be a direct download of the ISO, but non of them are from Microsoft (some of them direct you to software-downloads.microsoft.com which is not a legitimate Microsoft site.. look it up if you don't believe me, other's just have the fake iso saved on their site, such as windows101tricks.com - which is not a legitimate Microsoft source) Also, Windows 10 ISO is multi language, not just English as displayed in the ISO title. Basically, you are showing us that you may have very well been scammed into giving out your Microsoft account information... These type of scams can smell a sucker a mile away.
I suggest you go create your own DVD using the Media creating tool, as that is the only legitimate way to get the ISO from Microsoft short of purchasing it from a retail outlet, try your install again and get back to us.
At the end of the day, what this amounts to is that You have no official word that supports anything you are trolling here about, or you have been scammed into giving out your Microsoft credentials. Lakados's quote, is from a very short reddit conversation, made by some user by the name of LadyUrbosa here:
That is not an official Microsoft source.
As I said, go create the proper installation media from Microsoft, try your install using that, and see where it leads you. I am willing to be you will find your local account option.. Yet, I have a feeling, you won't have the balls to come back and admit it.
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Yes it does.
Sorry, you're totally wrong. As I've stated in the past, this is the big problem, the little Windows fan club has no idea how the OOBE under Windows 10 works! It's damn good for a chuckle!
Here you go!
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/customize-oobe
Bloody brilliant! You're besotted with an OS of all things and blatantly refuse to accept any form of reality in the case that it's negative, but you have no idea how the installation process even works!
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/customize-oobe
Bloody brilliant! You're besotted with an OS of all things and blatantly refuse to accept any form of reality in the case that it's negative, but you have no idea how the installation process even works!
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Actually, I didn't realize they changed it last year, my mistake, no reason to be a little prick about it. However, the fact that is from an OEM system builders's page, implies it has more to do with their customers experience than what you or I will experience using the latest ISO from Microsoft. I urge you to read what you quoted again, and pay close attention to the what is says about user input. (you are the cause of the problem).
Did you go download the ISO using Microsoft's creator utility like you are supposed to as I suggest? OR are you just here to spread conspiracy theories and keep acting like a complete little bitch because you are to arrogant to give it a try. Might I add, that you go read the very article you posted, as it tells you why some people have ran into this problem. (you caused it last year, if the article is accurate). Also, the installation you showed using a VM.. are you using the same key as the pc you are running the VM on? IF yes, that right there could very well be why it won't allow you to have a local account option, which is the users fault, as you can only use the key on one installation. VM counts as a completely different PC.
I guess, in the end, Microsoft feels that it is only relevant to screw with you and not the other Millions of people out there, and has specific pages from the cloud just for you... Maybe it's Karma for you being such a prick to people.
Why shouldn't I be a prick? The way I'm being treated in this thread do you honestly think you've earned any respect off me? I can assure you my opinion of you is amazingly low.
As stated many, many, many times over and over again - I used an ISO downloaded directly from Microsoft, I even proved this in a screenshot and Microsoft themselves have been quoted as stating that the cloud based OOBE now contains no option but to install using a Microsoft account when connected via Ethernet and I'm not the only person in this very thread to experience this new 'feature'.
Where the hell do you get off claiming I'm even remotely trying to spread conspiracy theories! The issue here is you are blinded by Microsoft, you think that capitalism is all fairies and unicorns and as the consumer you're the one in control! I hate to break it to you, you're no more than a cash cow! To Microsoft, you're revenue.
The use of a key is totally and utterly irrelevant - Having said that, I never used a key, why would I for the purposes of this thread? I also used two completely separate ISO's of differing versions between the bear metal install and the VM install - The OOBE is cloud based and as I stated and as is highlighted in my link and quoted by Microsoft you may not see the cloud service pages during the flow - As I stated all along, using the exact same install media the OOBE changes all the time, it just so happens that the OOBE disallowing the creation of a local account is the only one I seem to be getting! As well as other users in this very thread and as well as the author of the linked article and as officially stated by Microsoft themselves!
Do you understand just how stupid the last five or so pages of this thread are? You all needlessly outright attack me because I dared to make a factual statement and back it up with a stupid amount of evidence and you were all so blinded by the fact that I dared make a negative statement against Microsoft that rather than actually read my posts you just jumped on your little flaming bandwagon and attacked and belittled - And all along you were ALL wrong!
One person worked it out and was upfront about it! ONE! Another member knew damn well that the OOBE was cloud based and there was a variant disallowing the creation of local accounts and openly admitted the fact - So he was here just to troll, attack and belittle!
You want to talk about Karma? Grow up, you were wrong. An apology would be nice, as realistically you can't be offended by my attitude, after all you created it.
NWRMidnight
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Actually, I just tested it on my android phone, that the ISO you are using is the one you can get if you download the ISO on a platform that doesn't support Microsoft's Creation tool. So I was incorrect about what I said in post #195 about your ISO not being legit. But it could still be that very ISO that is causing you, your problems. Do us a favor, go use Microsoft's creating tool to make the ISO, and see if your issue disappears. There might be a reason Microsoft forces an account when the ISO is obtained in this manner such as to prevent piracy.
Regardless, all of your evidence, is screen shots of your own installation, which does not prove anything, other than you have issues with your install. I have read your posts, and I have tested it myself, and know that the offline option is still there, both for Windows 10 Home, and Windows 10 Pro all while connected with Ethernet (using the ISO made from the creation tool). The fact there is what.. a hand full of people in this whole planet that seem to have this issue points to something other than the OOBE causing it, unless you some how believe that Microsoft is only going to use their cloud to pick on your and a few others. For what purpose? Seriously, listen to yourself. You want to get realistic: Fact: You have been belittling people, being rude, and a prick for how many pages? I didn't even comment until page 5.. which you started being a prick to people long before page 5 where I made my first comment in this thread, Which I said you are full of crap, and from where I stand, and the testing I have done, you are full of crap. So yea.. you created your piss poor attitude long before I came into the picture. But way to blame other's for your immaturity.
I already stated I made a mistake about the OOBE.. and the fact that you want to bitch me out after doing so, and tell me to grow up? I suggest you take your own advice. How about you go create install media using Microsoft's creation tool. It's possible the ISO you are using, IF legitimate, is the factor in this issue.
Anyhow, I'm done entertaining a Troll, because that is all you are. Or you can sit and complain about your issues, instead of trying to find out why you and only a hand full of people are having this issue. Specially since the majority of people are not.
Either way, you are coming across as a Troll, and if that is what you are doing, I'm done entertaining you.
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