When will prices drop?

www.colamco.com allows you to pre order not in stock items. They have some reasonable 1080 TI's. Never used them, but worth a shot. Pay with a credit card that will allow stop payment if needed
 
I feel like life is just kicking me in the sack repeatedly when I come on this forum. Like the kind of kick you’d get from Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon when he takes down that army of gards all by himself.

God damn miners. <drinks whisky>
 
Blackstone said:
I feel like life is just kicking me in the sack repeatedly when I come on this forum. Like the kind of kick you’d get from Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon when he takes down that army of gards all by himself.

God damn miners. <drinks whisky>
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Patience grasshopper, let the fools buy their 2 year old graphics card at +150% MSRP.

When the new cards come out, strike then!
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Blackstone said:
I feel like life is just kicking me in the sack repeatedly when I come on this forum. Like the kind of kick you’d get from Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon when he takes down that army of gards all by himself.

God damn miners. <drinks whisky>
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I'd understand the getting kicked in the sack part, but you have a high end rig, with a fucking 1080ti. TF outta here

Damn whiner. <drinks water>
 
Getting prices to drop... it's very risky. Pump up production and if the whole "cryptocoin" movement dies, you might die as well. IMHO, we're probably a little ways away from that. So, IMHO, I think card manufacturers can safely increase production this year. By how much? Well, there's Mr. Risk again...

So.. thinking out loud. Nvidia and ATI need to "split" and form temporal companies for "cryptomining". That might be the "safest" thing. That might mean turning off access (somehow) to the card innards for the traditional "gaming" crowd and forcing anyone who needs that to purchase from their "cryptomining" line/company. In all fairness, they created this mess.

Any viable 3rd party GPU supplier ready to "rule"? (sadly no... but wouldn't that be interesting?)
 
cjcox said:
Getting prices to drop... it's very risky. Pump up production and if the whole "cryptocoin" movement dies, you might die as well.
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You paint a pretty dark scene there....Its just a graphics card man. lol.
 
Krenum said:
You paint a pretty dark scene there....Its just a graphics card man. lol.
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Oh, I'm just pointing out normal business problems. I don't really think Nvidia or ATI would raise volume simply to lower prices, just pointing out the dangers of doing so.

IMHO, they're probably enjoying the increased demand. Not sure I would change a thing. Again, there isn't a "competitor" to step in, it's a "designed" two party system. Thus people will "pay up", there's not a lot of choice. But, it's very good new for those with cards, as their cards are now more valuable. Something that doesn't happen often in the fast changing tech world.
 
Blackstone said:
I feel like life is just kicking me in the sack repeatedly when I come on this forum. Like the kind of kick you’d get from Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon when he takes down that army of gards all by himself.
God damn miners. <drinks whisky>
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Wait for the new hardware to hit shelves. It's liking like a few months out. Pre-order if you can find a place that will pre-order.
Bitcoin value is dropping to $7500 and at least one site said $2500 before December. So the ROI is taking a lot longer. The miners want you to buy their used cards when they unload them to offset the loss. Don't buy used cards.
Wait for a new card to come out and buy.
That's how you fuck the miners.
 
I feel like I hit the lottery last year for selling my used GTX 1070 at a mark-up and buying a GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 at MSRP for $730.
 
I will wait for the new cards as well and see if they don't all get picked up right away.
 
Mining returns are pretty garbage right now so I'd think soon.

Just in time for the nVidia launch (?).
 
I haven't checked prices in several weeks but just looked and it looks like prices are down quite a bit. 1080's are back under $700 and Vega 64's are under $800. Still not bargain priced by any means but after weeks of seeing nothing under $1000, that looks pretty good.
 
Completed listings on ebay for 1070s over the past few days show them selling between $400 to $450. Lowest prices on new 1070s are $550. Still too high, but a clear price drop vs a month or two ago.
 
biggles said:
Completed listings on ebay for 1070s over the past few days show them selling between $400 to $450. Lowest prices on new 1070s are $550. Still too high, but a clear price drop vs a month or two ago.
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When used 1070's get around $300-350 and 1080Ti's at $600 then we are back to normal.
Until then wait it out. As the cards don't sell, sellers will have to lower their expectations.
 
The Micro Center near me has a lot of cards in stock, and I'm starting to see more stock on Newegg, Amazon, and EVGA.com. The prices should start dropping soon.
 
Was at my local Micro Center and they have tons of 1060, 1070, 1080 cards in stock, at stupid prices. Seems supply is starting to come back, but the demand is low at these prices. I'm getting tired of waiting!
 
30 year computer technician and avid gamer. Problem I'm facing is nobody wants to upgrade due to the asinine price increases on medium to high end graphics cards. Because of that, I'm stuck waiting to make money on system upgrades for a half-dozen people. Can't get any graphics card at MSRP nowadays and it has people putting off upgrading. Got one customer who wants a 1080Ti but there is no way in hell he's paying over $1,000 for a card that MSRPs at $699.

We, as gamers, shouldn't have to suffer due to miners.
 
AceGoober said:
30 year computer tech...
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Yup in the same boat as your customers, been ready to upgrade for a long time, but no way in hell am I paying more than MSRP. Looks like the light at the end of the tunnel is starting to appear though...
 
0100 said:
Yup in the same boat as your customers, been ready to upgrade for a long time, but no way in hell am I paying more than MSRP. Looks like the light at the end of the tunnel is starting to appear though...
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You should start keeping an eye on eBay. GTX 1070's seem to be going at close to MSRP (~$380 or so) on a fairly regular basis lately. The 1070's seem to be priced nearer MSRP than do the 1060's or 1080's.
 
griff30 said:
As long as ANY cryptocurrency is minable on GPUs, those two quotes you have will be as relevant as
Bill Gates once saying 640K of memory was more than anyone needed. He was wrong of course and Nvidia and AMD will never make the mark on those quotes either.
They will never catch up when the unwashed masses want a get rich quick scheme.
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He never said that....it's a tried old myth FYI ;)
 
Do prices realistically come back down?

I was of the belief that you just keep inflating prices ever so slightly with the release of every new model and when sales of that model slow down you just release another model and tweak the price slightly higher yet again - The process just repeats?

Be thankful you live in the US, in most other countries the price of hardware is ludicrous. Especially considering top of the line products.
 
Mazzspeed said:
Do prices realistically come back down?

I was of the belief that you just keep inflating prices ever so slightly with the release of every new model and when sales of that model slow down you just release another model and tweak the price slightly higher yet again - The process just repeats?

Be thankful you live in the US, in most other countries the price of hardware is ludicrous. Especially considering top of the line products.
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On amazon.ca, MSI GTX 1070Ti Titanium hit C$660-ish (US$516) for a brief moment in early March, before it quickly sold out.
C$660 for a 1070Ti is pretty good by Canadian standards, checking on pcpartpicker.ca.
There were reports of GDDR5 shortages around the same time, so it was expected that the prices would be higher when the cards came back in stock.

More recently, On another canadian store, Gigabyte GTX 1070Ti hit C$710-ish (US$555). It sold out, but took some time for them to run out of stock.
The prices are much lower than before, because even the 1070Ti were hitting C$900+ back in Jan/Feb.

I think we will continue to see more stock rolling in and staying in stock for a while, but I wouldn't expect any of the cards to go below MSRP, because of the ram shortages.
 
MrDeaf said:
On amazon.ca, MSI GTX 1070Ti Titanium hit C$660-ish (US$516) for a brief moment in early March, before it quickly sold out.
C$660 for a 1070Ti is pretty good by Canadian standards, checking on pcpartpicker.ca.
There were reports of GDDR5 shortages around the same time, so it was expected that the prices would be higher when the cards came back in stock.

More recently, On another canadian store, Gigabyte GTX 1070Ti hit C$710-ish (US$555). It sold out, but took some time for them to run out of stock.
The prices are much lower than before, because even the 1070Ti were hitting C$900+ back in Jan/Feb.

I think we will continue to see more stock rolling in and staying in stock for a while, but I wouldn't expect any of the cards to go below MSRP, because of the ram shortages.
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A valid point. However, I think if you zoom out and look at pricing from the perspective of a much larger time frame, GPU prices are steadily increasing over time, they're not coming down. Sure, you may get fluctuations depending on the price of ram, etc. But overall, in the vast time frame of things, I'm fairly certain prices are just increasing over time, not coming down.
 
I agree about the prices going up. Slowly but steadily all pc components are on the rise. I remember when Intel broke the 1k mark people were in shock. Here they are approaching 2k and there is no end in sight.

Kudos to Microcenter in Boston, because anytime I go there its like haggling at a Turkish bazaar. I never pay their asking price and they always willing to work out a deal.
 
noxqzs said:
Slowly but steadily all pc components are on the rise. I remember when Intel broke the 1k mark people were in shock. Here they are approaching 2k and there is no end in sight.
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And then there's AMD who released a AMD Ryzen 1700 (8 core, 16 thread). The Ryzen can hang with the best of them and available at MicroCenter for $230 out the door. (with a snazzy LED ring heatsink included).
 
compared to a month ago prices have dropped. You can buy a used EVGA GTX 1070 Ti 2 1/2 slot Ultra silent card for $500 on ebay. I paid tha much for a new one just 4 months ago at Newegg and that was a good, regular market price. So $500 is an ok price considering EVGA's Guest Warranty.

Personally, I use a GTX 970 OC'ed and get 70 fps most of the time playing Mass Effect Andromeda and Rise of the Tomb Raider. I use a FX-6300 OC'ed to 4.5GHz with a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 motherboard. Works great, no need for a GTX 1070 or 1080 especially considering the inflated prices even for used cards.

There's an EVGA Ultra silent GTX 1070 Ti posted for $500 on eBay and it's been there a long time, listing ends in 1 1/2 days. Tells me the inflated prices aren't holding water these days. I'll buy an EVGA GTX 1070 FTW when it hits $300 IF it still has 2 years warranty left on it
 
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