Eizo Foris FG2421: 120hz VA Panel

Sounds like it is dropping the VGA feed, check your video cable connection at both ends and see if it was loose. If that doesn't work substitute another cable and see if that corrects the issue.

If you want to simulate the problem then press the "Signal" on screen button and you will see that transition from a normal screen (VGA) to a black screen followed by the Eizo logo a few seconds later. It is for that reason why I am suspecting your cable.
Been using the inluded DP cable, first thing i did was that checked connection at both ends and it was sitted firmly. But today decided to give a try for DVI-D cable and seems like same thing happens with this also, so there is something strange going on with the monitor itself.

And actually when change the signal/input dont get the eizo logo, its only appears when power it on/off
 
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I have this monitor and have spent a few weeks with it testing out several applications. I am posting here to share my experience. I love it.

Here is a photo of an all-black image taken with my Canon DSLR:


Settings on my camera are F2.8, ISO1600, 1/50. The photo is very representative to what it looks like in person. Blacks are fantastic.

My settings:

240Hz Turbo: ON
Brightness: 80
Contrast: 50
Black Level: 45
Gamma: 2.4
Dynamic Contrast: Standard
RGB: 100(R), 96(G), 98(B)

No dead/stuck pixels on my monitor. There is some crosshatching, but it does not distract me. I do get a slight green bleed on only the right side edge of the monitor, but only on certain mixture of colors, depending on what is showing on the monitor during a game or movie. I know others have this worse, but my monitor isn't as bad and I have found with my settings it has decreased it to where I don't notice it unless I really look for it. I found lowering the black level helps, and increasing the gamma from 2.2 standard to 2.4 and adjusting the RGB slightly.

Fire up a dark Game and there goes the nice black uniformity.
 
Looks like you got a decent panel there.

I'm very pleased.

But I do know others are having problems and I wouldn't accept them either. I would be sending back anything I am not happy with until I got a good monitor. I just wanted to share that they are out there. But even mine out of the box needed some adjustments. And I still have crosshatching, but it is not severe or distracting enough for me in my daily use. No monitor in my experience is perfect. You have to weigh what is important to you. For me motion, black quality, and contrast are the big one's and this monitor is the best I have experienced in those areas, except perhaps motion which TNs are still better at, but suck at everything else. :)
 
I'm very pleased.

But I do know others are having problems and I wouldn't accept them either. I would be sending back anything I am not happy with until I got a good monitor. I just wanted to share that they are out there. But even mine out of the box needed some adjustments. And I still have crosshatching, but it is not severe or distracting enough for me in my daily use. No monitor in my experience is perfect. You have to weigh what is important to you. For me motion, black quality, and contrast are the big one's and this monitor is the best I have experienced in those areas, except perhaps motion which TNs are still better at, but suck at everything else. :)

What do you means with this ?

Have you notice more ghosting than TN ? motion smoothness is imperfect ?
Some hanticap about it ?

@into the storm - u have private message
 
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What do you means with this ?

Have you notice more ghosting than TN ? motion smoothness is imperfect ?
Some hanticap about it ?

Keep in mind I am not providing anything scientific here. Motion in 120Hz mode I would say is, acceptable. But it is still behind an average TN panel to my eye.

However, once you enable 240Hz Turbo it really improves. When I compared 120Hz to 240Hz Turbo with the PRAD ghosting test, there was some apparent ghosting with 120Hz, but it really cleared up with 240Hz Turbo on to where I could hardly see anything. Also, I leave 240Hz Turbo on all the time, I have no issues with my eyes doing this and don't see any anomalies.
 
Been using the inluded DP cable, first thing i did was that checked connection at both ends and it was sitted firmly. But today decided to give a try for DVI-D cable and seems like same thing happens with this also, so there is something strange going on with the monitor itself.

And actually when change the signal/input dont get the eizo logo, its only appears when power it on/off

And actually when change the signal/input dont get the eizo logo, its only appears when power it on/off.

I take that back, I should have said after you press the "Signal" button the screen will go black and in the upper right corner it will say "DisplayPort" for a few seconds. Then after a few seconds the screen goes black again and on it will read "Entering Power Saver Mode" then it will remain black and cannot be woken up from power saving mode until you toggle the "Signal" button one more time to bring it back to VGA.


If you are running Windows 7 you may want to look in your Control Panel for "Power Options" and under "Select a power plan" choose "Balanced (recommended)". And also select "Never" for how often you want to Put the Computer to Sleep.


Hope you resolve the issue.
 
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I got this display yesterday and unless some miraculous settings can get rid of the right side being a lot brighter than the rest of the screen when displaying dark colors, I'm returning it, I would happily get it replaced with another sample, but reading this thread shows how common and spread out that flaw is, chances of getting another dud are way too high, and shipping it back and forth would prove a waste of time and money.

Here are some pics I took with my phone

This is a solid dark gray color, it clearly shows the right side thingie that's so common with this display.

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Black is as black as it can be, no backlight bleed to be seen.

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When a dark pic is displayed on the center of the display, there's no problem with dark colors

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But when displayed full screen....

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Comparison between the FG2421 and my current HP ZR24W on the desktop

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I can live with the colors being a little worse on the Eizo, but I can't overlook the ugly gradient across the screen, I tried playing with the settings to try to get rid of it, the closer I got was putting the gamma setting on "Power", it got rid of the gradient showing during reddish colors, but it was still present on greens, blues and grays, and of course, it messed up the gamma and crushed blacks to hell.

The pics above were taken with the flatpanels settings minus the one comparing the pic at the center/full screen, which had the gamma setting at "Power".
 
I got this display yesterday and unless some miraculous settings can get rid of the right side being a lot brighter than the rest of the screen when displaying dark colors, I'm returning it, I would happily get it replaced with another sample, but reading this thread shows how common and spread out that flaw is, chances of getting another dud are way too high, and shipping it back and forth would prove a waste of time and money.

I can live with the colors being a little worse on the Eizo, but I can't overlook the ugly gradient across the screen, I tried playing with the settings to try to get rid of it, the closer I got was putting the gamma setting on "Power", it got rid of the gradient showing during reddish colors, but it was still present on greens, blues and grays, and of course, it messed up the gamma and crushed blacks to hell.

The pics above were taken with the flatpanels settings minus the one comparing the pic at the center/full screen, which had the gamma setting at "Power".

The green edge bleed is definitely worse on yours than mine. As I said I was able to effectively almost eliminate the issue with my settings. Perhaps you can try mine to see if they help at all:

Set to User1
240Hz Turbo: ON
Brightness: 80
Contrast: 50
Black Level: 45
Gamma: 2.4
Dynamic Contrast: Standard
RGB: 100(R), 96(G), 98(B)

I do not recommend to anyone settting Gamma to Power. It crushes the whole image and will display visual anomalies.
 
And actually when change the signal/input dont get the eizo logo, its only appears when power it on/off.

I take that back, I should have said after you press the "Signal" button the screen will go black and in the upper right corner it will say "DisplayPort" for a few seconds. Then after a few seconds the screen goes black again and on it will read "Entering Power Saver Mode" then it will remain black and cannot be woken up from power saving mode until you toggle the "Signal" button one more time to bring it back to VGA.


If you are running Windows 7 you may want to look in your Control Panel for "Power Options" and under "Select a power plan" choose "Balanced (recommended)". And also select "Never" for how often you want to Put the Computer to Sleep.


Hope you resolve the issue.
Allready have sleep & hibernate disabled so sadly that wont help anything for me, actually i think the problem has something to do with turbo mode, disabled it yesterday and havent got the problem since that.. Anyway contacted eizo earlier today and seems like they are awere of this issue as they right away pointed me to fill the RMA.

But then the ridicilous part begins. Just cant believe that monitor which cost 550€ dont have onsite/swap warranty, i suppose to send this unit from finland to sweden first, only then when they have received & checked the unit they will send the replacement. I simply find this absolutely ridicilous, damn even cheap under 200€ monitors from asus,benq,samsung etc has swap warranty atleast for first year/s.

All i can say at this point is that this will definately be my last purchase of Eizo ever..
 
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The green edge bleed is definitely worse on yours than mine. As I said I was able to effectively almost eliminate the issue with my settings. Perhaps you can try mine to see if they help at all:

Set to User1
240Hz Turbo: ON
Brightness: 80
Contrast: 50
Black Level: 45
Gamma: 2.4
Dynamic Contrast: Standard
RGB: 100(R), 96(G), 98(B)

I do not recommend to anyone settting Gamma to Power. It crushes the whole image and will display visual anomalies.

Anything but the gamma setting at Power (of course, this makes the picture quality go kaput) makes the right edge "bleed", some settings mask it a bit, but it's still unacceptable on a 500€ display, I'm not the most exigent user either, but it's way too noticeable, panning the camera on games gives it straight away.
 
Keep in mind I am not providing anything scientific here. Motion in 120Hz mode I would say is, acceptable. But it is still behind an average TN panel to my eye.

However, once you enable 240Hz Turbo it really improves. When I compared 120Hz to 240Hz Turbo with the PRAD ghosting test, there was some apparent ghosting with 120Hz, but it really cleared up with 240Hz Turbo on to where I could hardly see anything. Also, I leave 240Hz Turbo on all the time, I have no issues with my eyes doing this and don't see any anomalies.

so with Turbo240 disable theres evident ghosting ?
 
so with Turbo240 disable theres evident ghosting ?

Yes, in ghosting tests. In games and movies, not as noticeable.

manufacturer date and warehouse?

Will let you know when I get back home.

Anything but the gamma setting at Power (of course, this makes the picture quality go kaput) makes the right edge "bleed", some settings mask it a bit, but it's still unacceptable on a 500€ display, I'm not the most exigent user either, but it's way too noticeable, panning the camera on games gives it straight away.

Okay, then I would recommend you get a replacement. You don't want to use Power. I don't know why it is even an option.
 
I am sending mine back for a refund. Hit with a £22 restocking fee from Native Digital but I have had the monitor nearly 4 weeks now and they have been more than reasonable with me.

I can't be doing with the piss poor uniformity and cross hatching any longer. The fact Native Digital have pulled the monitor from their site says it all.

I ordered a Eizo EV2336 and for me it ticks all the right boxes apart from the 120Hz refresh rate, but the 0ms input lag makes up for that. Just had a 3 hour serious heads down CS session and it blew my mind how snappy this panel is. Plus it was 200 quid cheaper. I'll start a new thread with my thoughts as this monitor has had little attention around these parts.

As into the storm said, you have to weigh up what is important to you. High contrast and black level would be great but only if the rest of the picture was balanced. For me the FG2421 had too many compromises to the image quality for me to live with.
 
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I guess I don't see how people cross shop 60 Hz panels with 120 Hz strobing backlight panels. They are like on the complete opposite ends of the spectrum for gaming.

Was still debating on a 60 Hz 4K panel, so I set a few of my monitors to sample and hold 60 Hz and played some BF4. The motion blur is so terrible you can't even see anything while your view is in motion. I wouldn't care if a sample and hold 60 Hz monitor had -100ms input lag and read your future mind with blur that bad.
 
Hmm, personally I'd take a 60 Hz display no problems, if it offered 0.00 black levels and good colors. People have different priorities I guess.
 
I guess I don't see how people cross shop 60 Hz panels with 120 Hz strobing backlight panels. They are like on the complete opposite ends of the spectrum for gaming.

Was still debating on a 60 Hz 4K panel, so I set a few of my monitors to sample and hold 60 Hz and played some BF4. The motion blur is so terrible you can't even see anything while your view is in motion. I wouldn't care if a sample and hold 60 Hz monitor had -100ms input lag and read your future mind with blur that bad.

The panel is only 23" and has zero input lag, so fast paced shooters work really well. You don't get the smoothness of 120Hz and I really wish I could have it on this panel but as far as being able to play competitively its had no negative effect on me. In fact the past few hours have been the best CS I have played, call it placebo or whatever. This screen works for me.

My VP2770 feels too laggy to play competitive CS. There is some perceivable input lag and I don't think the size helps either. I imagine the 60Hz IGZO 4K would be a lot worse.

If you got a good FG2421 and you can live with its quirks then more power to you. For me it just was not happening and I did give it a fair crack of the whip.
 
I noticed a few new reviews of the Eizo FG2421 were released recently. I decided to take a look and compile all of the professional reviews and their closing thoughts.

Sweclockers.com: Seal of approval: Eizo Foris FG2421 is an outstanding gaming screen that does not compromise on the colors.

Flatpanelshd.com: EIZO FORIS FG2421 IS A SMALL REVOLUTION IN GAMING MONITORS, COMBINING GREAT PICTURE QUALITY WITH SPEED

Hardware.no: "Foris FG2421 is the best gaming monitor available today"

PurePc: "recommend" must be well earned, 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Prad.de: I didn't pay to read, but from what others have said they gave it high marks for gaming but lowered overall score simply for color "accuracy".

TFTCentral: "The overall gaming performance of the Eizo FG2421 was very good. There is a small additional lag or around 4ms added when Turbo 240 is enabled, but still not a huge number to worry about. Eizo and Sharp have done a great job in offering the first 120Hz compatible VA panel on the market, and it doesn't disappoint when it comes to gaming. As well as these areas, the VA panel was able to offer staggering contrast ratios which you just couldn't get from a TN Film model. The wider viewing angles add additional flexibility compared with TN Film and the screen benefited from that more rounded performance feel. The light semi-glossy AG coating, lack of PWM backlight dimming and decent connectivity options were very welcome. Gaming is obviously the key focus of the FG2421 and we felt it did very well thanks to all these factors.

I don't think I've seen such an overall highly reviewed monitor in quite some time and goes hand in hand with my experience.
 
I am sending mine back for a refund. Hit with a £22 restocking fee from Native Digital but I have had the monitor nearly 4 weeks now and they have been more than reasonable with me.

I can't be doing with the piss poor uniformity and cross hatching any longer. The fact Native Digital have pulled the monitor from their site says it all.

I ordered a Eizo EV2336 and for me it ticks all the right boxes apart from the 120Hz refresh rate, but the 0ms input lag makes up for that. Just had a 3 hour serious heads down CS session and it blew my mind how snappy this panel is. Plus it was 200 quid cheaper. I'll start a new thread with my thoughts as this monitor has had little attention around these parts.

As into the storm said, you have to weigh up what is important to you. High contrast and black level would be great but only if the rest of the picture was balanced. For me the FG2421 had too many compromises to the image quality for me to live with.

I sent mine back too, the light bleed was bad in dark games, the monitors like mine that was manufactured in Germany seem to be the worse, paying over 450pound for a display you want it to be better quality, I have not asked for a replacement don't wanna risk getting another poor screen.
How come when I had a black screen up there was very little edge bleed yet in dark games it was bad is it because of the greys?
Thanks
 
The panel is only 23" and has zero input lag, so fast paced shooters work really well. You don't get the smoothness of 120Hz and I really wish I could have it on this panel but as far as being able to play competitively its had no negative effect on me. In fact the past few hours have been the best CS I have played, call it placebo or whatever. This screen works for me.

My VP2770 feels too laggy to play competitive CS. There is some perceivable input lag and I don't think the size helps either. I imagine the 60Hz IGZO 4K would be a lot worse.

If you got a good FG2421 and you can live with its quirks then more power to you. For me it just was not happening and I did give it a fair crack of the whip.

Well man, I had(I mean still have, but my son uses it) iiyama 2201W, 22 inch screen, with 0 input lag. Sure, it was TN, so colours without little "calibration: at lagom site was washed out, gamma was crap, blacks non-existed...
But
But I went to it just from 19inch crt, trinitron based. 1184x868@100Hz resolution as I remeber. To 22", 1680x1050@60Hz
ALL my scores went down, all. I felt like sucker at fps gaming, I saw less than my old CRT, and walk/run/strafe and try see something while doing it was simply impossible.
So no QCB, no CS, I was not good but not bad either in AAO game, but suddenly my FR in all FPS went from 1.7 to 0,6-0,9 max.
I putted my scores on lazines, my age(had 32Y then), but not a fact I changed my screen to 60Hz with looots of blur.
Damn was stupid I just throw that 19" unit away...
 
I noticed a few new reviews of the Eizo FG2421 were released recently. I decided to take a look and compile all of the professional reviews and their closing thoughts.

Sweclockers.com: Seal of approval: Eizo Foris FG2421 is an outstanding gaming screen that does not compromise on the colors.

Flatpanelshd.com: EIZO FORIS FG2421 IS A SMALL REVOLUTION IN GAMING MONITORS, COMBINING GREAT PICTURE QUALITY WITH SPEED

Hardware.no: "Foris FG2421 is the best gaming monitor available today"

PurePc: "recommend" must be well earned, 4.5 out of 5 stars.

Prad.de: I didn't pay to read, but from what others have said they gave it high marks for gaming but lowered overall score simply for color "accuracy".

TFTCentral: "The overall gaming performance of the Eizo FG2421 was very good. There is a small additional lag or around 4ms added when Turbo 240 is enabled, but still not a huge number to worry about. Eizo and Sharp have done a great job in offering the first 120Hz compatible VA panel on the market, and it doesn't disappoint when it comes to gaming. As well as these areas, the VA panel was able to offer staggering contrast ratios which you just couldn't get from a TN Film model. The wider viewing angles add additional flexibility compared with TN Film and the screen benefited from that more rounded performance feel. The light semi-glossy AG coating, lack of PWM backlight dimming and decent connectivity options were very welcome. Gaming is obviously the key focus of the FG2421 and we felt it did very well thanks to all these factors.

I don't think I've seen such an overall highly reviewed monitor in quite some time and goes hand in hand with my experience.

That's fine and dandy, if you do get a good sample, but let's be realists here, look at this thread, how many "good" panels are there compared to bad ones? 1:5? less? same thing happens on OCN and many other places, people are reporting bad panels left and right.

If you have the store/seller within the same region, shipping the unit back and forth till you get a decent one would be no prob, it'd take a day to ship and it's gonna be cheap, in my case (EU) I have to ship it across several countries, takes a few days, and it's thrice the price as if I was shipping within the country. Plus there's no damn reason a 500 EUR display as the SAME fault through so many samples, I would be somewhat more forgiving if a unit had backlight bleed, other had 1 or 2 dead pixels, and some had crosshatching, but with the FG2421 it's the -same- issue with the right side on almost all the bad panels.

Good display otherwise, but good luck getting one without the right side being fucked up.
 
I've just posted this over at overclock.net, it's slightly less relevant here but it's a definite +1 for the positive reviews of this product.

I've just received my FG2421 and it appears perfect. No backlight bleed, dead pixels or cross hatching. Maybe I was just lucky, but after speaking with the guys from Eizo UK for several days they said that they have now tested all of the recalled products and all seemed to pass the tests they've put them through. I don't know if people are seeing some unique technology and fancy testing it out, knowing that they can return it under the distance selling regulations - then just jump on the "back light bleed/cross hatching" band wagon when asked the reason for return. The only slight problem that I've been able to detect so far is a small amount of image doubling from white text on a black background, when in 240hz mode. This disappears completely when you switch back to User mode. People worrying about input lag really shouldn't, I can't detect any at all and I'm coming from using a TN gaming panel.

The only issue I have is purely personal. I'm playing Battlefield 4 pretty much exclusively at the moment and before now have been using a 60hz monitor, with V-Sync enabled. I have an over clocked R9 290x, playing the game on a mixture of ultra/high settings with aliasing/post/ambient occlusion all off. This allows me to have FPS of around 80-140, depending on which map I'm playing, server size etc. With V-Sync off I experience screen tearing, it's not hideous but as I've done my gaming for the past few years with it always on I'm finding it rather off putting, but if I turn it on my FPS seems to lock at 60. Not really desirable with a 120hz panel. Is there some way of having V-Sync on and it not locking at 60 FPS? Or some way of having it off and severely reducing the screen tearing? I've read the suggestions above, but they seem to imply that you need to achieve FPS way higher than would be possible in BF4 with a single card. I really want to keep this monitor, I absolutely love everything about it, but at the moment it's feeling like I should return it and wait for a G-Sync panel, as that way I'd be able to maintain the high FPS and have no screen tear.I assume that's how the technology will work anyway.

I know I'd have to get an NVidia GPU and I wouldn't be benefiting from the strobe backlighting I am at the moment, but I'm finding the screen tear more annoying than I used to the motion blur.
 
how many "good" panels are there compared to bad ones? 1:5? less?

You can't be serious. The amount of so called "bad panels" from people I could count on two hands across all popular English forums. It's usually the same people on multiple forums too, making multiple posts.

Not to mention people will be far more vocal when they get a "bad" one versus a "good" one. That isn't even including user error in those numbers.

And to the guy that mentioned Germany: what do you mean made in Germany? People have seen that on the back instead of made in Japan?
 
You can't be serious. The amount of so called "bad panels" from people I could count on two hands across all popular English forums. It's usually the same people on multiple forums too, making multiple posts.

Not to mention people will be far more vocal when they get a "bad" one versus a "good" one. That isn't even including user error in those numbers.

And to the guy that mentioned Germany: what do you mean made in Germany? People have seen that on the back instead of made in Japan?

The Euro panels have all been shipped from Germany so I think he might be getting mixed up. Both mine had a made in Japan sticker on the back.
 
Seems like there may be relatively serious quality control issues; even if we take into account that it's easier to complain than to praise. Has anyone in the US needed to send this directly back to Eizo, or has everyone been dealing with a retailer? I don't mind playing roulette on a monitor if the RMA process is decent (though it would be annoying to have to pay an additional ~$30 that it takes to securely ship a monitor here in the US).
 
try console and:
gametime.maxvariablefps 120
command. Heard/read that it helps with 120 or 144Hz panels(then 144 typed)
Redards

Along with that, try these either in console or add them to your user.cfg file in BF4 install directory:

RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 1
RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 1
 
That's fine and dandy, if you do get a good sample, but let's be realists here, look at this thread, how many "good" panels are there compared to bad ones? 1:5? less? same thing happens on OCN and many other places, people are reporting bad panels left and right.

Forum posts aren't a good indicator of failure rates because people who have issues are much much more likely to seek out threads discussing a product and post than people who are happy with their purchase.
 
Maybe I was just lucky, but after speaking with the guys from Eizo UK for several days they said that they have now tested all of the recalled products and all seemed to pass the tests they've put them through.

Dunno if they were being serious or not, probably not for obvious reasons, but that says a lot about their tests.
 
My hopes at this point is that they release a 27" version.. I don't really care if it's 1080p or 1440p, I'll take either at this point.
 
Ok now i can pretty much confirm that the "monitor restart issue" has something to do with turbo/240hz mode. Disabled it at friday and didint have the problem for around full 2 days, now when enabled it again this evening it just restarted itself again after few hours of uptime. Extremely annoyed about this because this panel is actually ok, dont have any backlight bleed, pixel faults or any other issues.
 
Ok now i can pretty much confirm that the "monitor restart issue" has something to do with turbo/240hz mode, disabled it few days ago and didint have the problem since, now enabled it again this evening and now started to restart itself again.

Sounds like an exchange is in order.
 
My hopes at this point is that they release a 27" version.. I don't really care if it's 1080p or 1440p, I'll take either at this point.

Note that with 1920x1080, for 23.5" you have a PPI of 93.74 and Dot Pitch of 0.271mm, while with 27" you have a PPI of 81.59 and a Dot Pitch of 0.3113mm. While 27" 2560x1440 is a PPI of 108.79 and a Dot Pitch of 0.2335mm. I'd say it's a waste to get an expensive gaming monitor with a PPI any less than 90, even if it does have a VA panel.
 
It all depends how far you are sitting from it.

I've got 27" 1080p screen and quality is good enough at around 80cm

edit: also 1080p is 1:1 with PS4 output
 
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Along with that, try these either in console or add them to your user.cfg file in BF4 install directory:

RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 1
RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 1

The readaheadlimit 1 is an fps killer in bf4, if you are going for 120+ fps and have a decent CPU. It might help input lag.
 
So is this a safe buy Vega? I've got some money saved for a new gaming monitor and this just seems like the best option.
 
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